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Everyone wants to be in charge. Until the reality of what that means hits them over the head like a plastic tin filled with paperwork.
 
Blaze

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Dam, rent worse than New York? Don't think anywhere beats San Francisco in that area.

Trudy needs to learn the power of a pause during speech/debate. "Uh" is blasphemous.

Was interesting to watch.
 
CapAquaPis

CapAquaPis

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The real reason why abortion, contraception, homosexuality and gender identity rights were outlawed in most of the US in the 1940s was to increase the white population in those states at the time, and we long thought it was the religious right, esp. Evangelical Christian fundamentalism made those laws, and historians insist it was the turn of the (20th) century progressive feminists outlawed alcohol (Prohibition in the 18th repealed by the 21st amendment of the US constitution) along with prostitution or sex work, premarital sexuality (requires cohabitating opposite-sex/gender couples to register with marriage licenses), and child labor (to promote mandatory public school attendance), plus raising the age of consent, again the "puritan calvinist Protestantism" was blamed for such laws, even the prohibition of illegal or hard drugs like (formerly) cannabis was from the "old Left" on the US congress floor, but we all heard of the B-rated cult classic "Reefer Madness" was meant to be a PSA sponsored by a conservative church group whom attempted to prevent women from smoking cigarettes.
 
Oddity

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Pretty much what I, too, expect in tomorrow's US elections.

kunstler.com

Low Down on the Showdown - Kunstler

Threat to “our democracy?” The effrontery! In a fair and just world, the Democratic Party of Chaos would slouch into the donkey’s graveyard — but since when is the USA part of a fair and just world?
kunstler.com
 
Oddity

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Possibly of interest- tomorrow's eclipse is hitting the ascendant of the Libra ingress chart

Buckle up, folks, it's going to be a bumpy ride
 
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david starling

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Oddity said:
Not that this would ever happen, of course

boriquagato.substack.com

"if i stole it" by el gato malo

a thought experiment on stealing not just elections, but whole societies
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I'm curious about what's specifically meant by the word "treason". It's bandied about quite a bit by both the Right and the Left. In the U.S., people in federal office swear to uphold the Constitution, so I guess willfully violating the written law in the Constitution could be considered treasonable behavior. But, it gets vague when it's about defending the country against "all enemies, foreign and domestic" because, except during an actual attack on the U.S. involving warfare of some sort, who's an enemy and who's not is usually just a matter of opinion.
 
Oddity

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There have been countless Constitional violations since covid started. Lockdowns, censorship, forced medical procedures, closing down places of worship...

Biden's influence peddling in Ukraine and China (and who knows where else) would be considered treasonous as he was VP at the time, selling political favours to foreign countries, at least one of which is a known enemy of the US.

But don't worry, it'll never be properly investigated, and he won't be impeached.

And you really have to wonder if it matters at all who gets elected when both your candidates are as woeful as Oz and Fetterman - picked because that one is so egregious, though quite a few others were nearly as bad.
 
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david starling

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Oddity said:
There have been countless Constitional violations since covid started. Lockdowns, censorship, forced medical procedures, closing down places of worship...

Biden's influence peddling in Ukraine and China (and who knows where else) would be considered treasonous as he was VP at the time, selling political favours to foreign countries, at least one of which is a known enemy of the US.

But don't worry, it'll never be properly investigated, and he won't be impeached.

And you really have to wonder if it matters at all who gets elected when both your candidates are as woeful as Oz and Fetterman - picked because that one is so egregious, though quite a few others were nearly as bad.
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What about refusing to accept a Constitutionally-conducted Presidential election, even though it met all Constitutional procedures and regulations, with all i's dotted, and all t's crossed? When ALL of the Governors, in both red and blue states approved and sent the officially designated slate of electors, based on the counting of the popular vote, including recounts and court challenges, in each State, to the Electoral College; and, the House of Representatives voted against contesting those results; and, the Vice President formally read those results in the Senate, it was a done deal. Denying that fact is denying the legitimacy of the Constitution itself.
 
Oddity

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david starling said:
What about refusing to accept a Constitutionally-conducted Presidential election, even though it met all Constitutional procedures and regulations, with all i's dotted, and all t's crossed? When ALL of the Governors, in both red and blue states approved and sent the officially designated slate of electors, based on the counting of the popular vote, including recounts and court challenges, in each State, to the Electoral College; and, the House of Representatives voted against contesting those results; and, the Vice President formally read those results in the Senate, it was a done deal. Denying that fact is denying the legitimacy of the Constitution itself.
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No, that was Trump being Trump. I think there was a lot of jiggery pokery going on in that election, too. That's hardly treason.
 
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david starling

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Oddity said:
No, that was Trump being Trump. I think there was a lot of jiggery pokery going on in that election, too. That's hardly treason.
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There's been jiggery pokery ( :lol: ) in nearly every election. But, as long as all the Constitutional rules are followed procedurally, it's a legitimate election.

The Russians definitely messed with the 2016 election, whether the Trump campaign knew it or not. But the votes were procedurally counted, and the Constitutional procedures were followed every step of the way. So, the Trump Presidency was just as legitimate as Biden's.

Btw, is it treasonous in Canada yet to publicly criticize Trudeau?
 
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