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Is Student Loan Forgiveness By Executive Order Legal?​

Updated: August 24, 2022 By Mark Kantrowitz

Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) want President Joe Biden to forgive $50,000 in federal student loans per borrower. They claim that he can do this unilaterally through executive order.

President Biden has promised to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt per borrower, but wants Congress to pass legislation to implement it. The $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief plan proposed by President Biden does not include any student loan forgiveness.
Legislation to forgive student loans is unlikely to occur before the end of the summer, since payments on federal student loans are paused until December 31, 2022.

Can The President Cancel All Federal Student Loans?​

The President does not have the legal authority to forgive student loans on his own. Only Congress has the power of the purse.
Executive action can be used only when it has been specifically authorized by Congress.
The executive branch cannot spend money that has not been appropriated by Congress, per 31 USC 1301 et seq (Antideficiency Act (P.L. 97-258)) and Article I, Section 7, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution.

The claims that the President has the authority to forgive student loans are based on a misreading of the Higher Education Act of 1965 at 20 USC 1082(a)(6). That section of the Higher Education Act of 1965 provides the U.S. Secretary of Education with the authority to:

“...modify, compromise, waive, or release any right, title, claim, lien, or demand, however acquired, including any equity or any right of redemption.”
But that quote is taken out of context. The preamble to that section of the Higher Education Act of 1965 limits this authority to operating within the scope of the statute:

“In the performance of, and with respect to, the functions, powers, and duties, vested in him by this part, the Secretary may—"
In other words, when Congress authorizes a loan forgiveness program, such as Public Service Loan Forgiveness, Teacher Loan Forgiveness or the Total and Permanent Disability Discharge, the U.S. Secretary of Education has the authority to forgive student loans as authorized under the terms of these loan forgiveness programs.

Without authorization by Congress of a specific loan forgiveness program, the President does not have the authority to forgive student loan debt.
As the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Whitman v. American Trucking Assns., Inc., (531 USC 457, 2001), Congress does not “hide elephants in mouseholes.”

 

blackbery

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I read that Republican governors are afraid that Biden's student loan forgiveness and payment deadline extension will help sway voters in their states to vote for Democrats.

Who are they? Where are the links? Of course, they don't even exist...except in your TDS view. The Reps LOVe this stupid, fake
EO as it's making the whole country upset at Pedo Pete & more & more mod Dems (not affected by TDS) are turning to GOP.
Pretty much, everyone is sick of O'Biden's marxist regime which is deliberately destroying the country week by week.
Recent poll had 75% saying the country was headed in the wrong direction.
Everyone knows that the Reps will take over the House/Senate except the RINOs/TDS crowd who are the same group really.
 

david starling

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Who are they? Where are the links? Of course, they don't even exist...except in your TDS view. The Reps LOVe this stupid, fake
EO as it's making the whole country upset at Pedo Pete & more & more mod Dems (not affected by TDS) are turning to GOP.
Pretty much, everyone is sick of O'Biden's marxist regime which is deliberately destroying the country week by week.
Recent poll had 75% saying the country was headed in the wrong direction.
Everyone knows that the Reps will take over the House/Senate except the RINOs/TDS crowd who are the same group really.
Why do you think they're scrambling to find hypothetical reasons student loan forgiveness wouldn't help the Democrats. It's got them worried.

We'll have to wait and see if Biden can get it done. Partisan legal opinions are unreliable. It's a smart move actually. Even if he can't do it, was a "gutsy" attempt, and the Republicans will be the tightwads who give huge tax-cuts to the extremely wealthy and won't spend a dime to help regular Americans if they try to get an education and improve their job prospects.

A lot of blue collar workers are hoping their kids can afford to go to college, and it's the Democrats who are trying to make it possible.
 
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Oddity

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I think a lot of folks now are realising that universities have turned into indoctrination factories and it's the last place they want to send their kids to these days.
 

blackbery

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Charlie Dent - CNN
Under the Biden executive order, borrowers who individually make under $125,000 a year will receive $10,000 in relief. Additionally, if these borrowers received a Pell Grant, they’ll get another $10,000 in relief for a total of $20,000 in debt cancellation. The measure will benefit 43 million people, according to the White House.

Condemnation of this ill-considered executive action is widespread and bipartisan.

Democrat economists Larry Summers, a former Treasury Secretary who served as the director of the National Economic Council under former President Barack Obama, and Jason Furman, the chairman of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, objected the proposal’s inflationary impacts.

Summers said, “Student loan debt relief is spending that raises demand and increases inflation… It will tend to be inflationary by raising tuitions.” Furman tweeted, “Pouring roughly half trillion dollars of gasoline on the inflationary fire that is already burning is reckless.”

Transferring the obligations of people who incurred student loan debts to millions of working taxpayers whose own debts or loans were never forgiven is not only unfair but politically perilous.

What’s more, college graduates have much greater earning potential than those who never went to college. Consequently, non-college educated, working taxpayers will help pay the student debts of people who will earn far more than they ever did.
Try selling that one to a janitor, construction worker, dishwasher, house cleaner, truck driver, or any other blue-collar worker.

Moral hazard is written all over Biden’s student loan forgiveness proposal.
If progressives truly want to help struggling Americans, why not wipe out mortgage debt? Answer: Renters wouldn’t benefit.
How about credit card debt? Answer: People who pay their bills on time wouldn’t benefit.

Appears Biden wants to reward his Democrat donors so they will have more money to donate to the party.



 

david starling

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I think a lot of folks now are realising that universities have turned into indoctrination factories and it's the last place they want to send their kids to these days.

Over 60% of high school graduates are in college.

There are Conservative-oriented colleges and universities which indoctrinate students with Conservative values.
 

david starling

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Biden's going ahead with the student loan relief package. It's engineered as a spin-off from the stimulus checks in 2021. Republicans will challenge it in court.

Meanwhile, a redacted version of the Mar a Lago search warrant affidavit has been released.
 

david starling

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Biden just blew it in a speech labeling "extreme" MAGA as "semi-Fascist". It was totally unnecessary, and won't play well with Independent voters who are tired of all the inaccurate, insulting hyperbole on both sides. He should do some self-examining and realize that the Federal vaxx mandates he and Trudeau imposed smack of Fascism, if anything does.
 
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leomoon

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Charlie Crist: Nov. 8th 2022 Midterms General Election:\will have -
TR Jupiter Trine n. Saturn
TR Venus Trine n. Mars
TR Mars (rx) will be retrograde in Gemini, and within one degree conjunct his n. Venus (multiple wives?)
It is also at the same time; trine to Tr Vesta within one degree and since tr Mars is rx, perhaps the vote will be so close requires a recount??\Again, it's Florida, and that often happens in Florida races.

Gov. DeSantis, the Republican incumbent has an interesting play of the planets on this day:

Tr Jupiter will be opposed his natal Uranus both the same 29th critical degree, one in Pisces (Jupiter) one in Virgo - his Uranus\
Unless I missed something, I think he'll be voted out of office with Uranus! (estrangement)
imo couldn't happen to a more deserving Florida Governor!
 
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leomoon

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Biden's going ahead with the student loan relief package. It's engineered as a spin-off from the stimulus checks in 2021. Republicans will challenge it in court.

Meanwhile, a redacted version of the Mar a Lago search warrant affidavit has been released.
My middle daughter put herself through college, got a B.A. first, then worked 5 more years with night school and then a few courses at ASU (before that community colleges for the B.A.) and got her Masters Degree in Business.Right now, she's traveling, and taking a break. As she said, she's been working since age 16. The only thing we ever chipped in was for books once or twice that I can recall. or giving her a few dollars up front which she paid back after her workplace reimbursed her once when she worked for the State and had that available to her. Otherwise, he herself, paid for everything by working. That is why it took about 15 yrs.

She worked hard and paid it all herself, but we don't mind seeing the needy get the small amount of help for overpriced interest rates the govt charges when rates went down, the govt kept them at 6% for student loans. After all, the 20M is for those who got Pell Grants only, and you cannot get a Pell Grant if your family makes over 70,000. per year. (or is it 50,000?)

After I read the LISTS of multi-millions that the Republican congress helped themselves to especially fot (friends of trump) both in and out of the White House with PPP loans (some took millions of dollars) knowing they'd not be required to pay it back and they did not! How can we begrudge this meager amount to those trying hard to get an education on meager incomes.
 

leomoon

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During Wednesday's press briefing, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre had pointed to the PPP program, (for businesses during Covid) which got its started under former President Donald Trump, and noted that Republicans weren't upset about government assistance then.

Beyond M. Taylor-Greene, the White House Twitter account also name-dropped GOP Reps. Vern Buchanan, Markwayne Mullin, Kevin Hern, Mike Kelly and Matt Gaetz.

Instead of student loans, Gaetz was critical of the White House sending another $3 billion in aid to Ukraine, to bolster the country's forces against Russia's invasion.

The Florida congressman (Matt Gaetz) had gotten '$482,321 in PPP loans forgiven,' the White House said.

Rep Mike Kelly, a Pennsylvania Republican, had nearly $1 million in PPP loans forgiven - $987,237
- and had tweeted, 'Asking plumbers and carpenters to pay off the loans of Wall Street advisors and lawyers isn't just unfair. It's also bad policy.'

He had shared a Fox News article headlined: 'Biden announces student loan handout as national debt soars.'

Hern, Mullin and Buchanan each had more than $1 million in PPP loans forgiven - with Buchanan's amount topping more than $2.3 million.

 
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leomoon

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Another List:\
Which members of Congress received PPP loan forgiveness? It isn't just Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Georgia). Here’s the rundown.

Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of 13 Republican Congress members who had PPP loans forgiven​


I realize some Democrats also had their hands out too, like Billionaires Pelosi family - but whether they repaid or not, I don't know yet.
Feel free to check and post a legit url link with list of unpaid debt owed to the govt.

Nothing of this money should have been "loaned" with no payback necessary to the insiders like the oil magnate in the White House or Mitch McConnell's family and wife, Elaine Chou (the Chinese in laws), either!~ This is the corruptness that goes on in Congress & Washington that needs desperately to be changed and corrected sooner then later. So far I see no evidence of enough morality to do so other then Bernie Sanders call for restoring same. From memory, I believe the Kushners also had their hands in the till for multi thousands (if not more) of the PPP money and helped themselves. Remember, thats part of the Trillions that trump left us in debt with that no one bothers to complain about here where at least (most) of what Biden has done so far has been fiscally responsible with being paid for in the budget and some (over a Trillion) paid down on the country's Debt in 2021 thanks to his administrative' care with fiscal responsibility
 

leomoon

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Biden just blew it in a speech labeling "extreme" MAGA as "semi-Fascist". It was totally unnecessary, and won't play well with Independent voters who are tired of all the inaccurate, insulting hyperbole on both sides. He should do some self-examining and realize that the Federal vaxx mandates he and Trudeau imposed smack of Fascism, if anything does.
Did all the name calling of Commies and socialists work well? Whats good for the goose is sometimes good for the gander.
 

LostNOzarks

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I'm of opinion that he was successful President as well. He drew solid lines that had been breached and washed away regarding illegal immigration. He regained our country's control of our energy. He told Europe it was time to stand on their own 3 feet and he told China to put up or forget it. He signed the Abraham Accords and Acknowledge what 4 presidents promised but wouldn't - establishing the US Embassy in Israel's capital of Jerusalem. (we saw jewish yeminites and arabs getting married in jewish tradition in those countries). In Gaza - arab and jew merchants were experience peace and interchanges of commerce. He signed the First Step Act that released thousands of prisoners in country who had been sentenced unjustly for their crimes. He signed bills to fund Native American business development and finding missing native americans. He rebuilt an economy that was appearing to thrive and grow. Constantly obstructed, falsely accused and smeared and censored banned from public media. And he's even stronger than he was before.
Are they ever going to go after Obama for the 30 million pages he still has that technically belong to the archive?

Just curious.
probably not in our lifetime. He is the king of thieves and hoodwinks, funded by the grand wizards BUT - his SMUG finger wagging is about to end up in the ditch because look at what his jupiter and saturn hold for Uranus in Taurus about to jump on him. One thing leads to another. He'll end up defecting is my guess. Claim asylum in another country and likely will have all his assets frozen.
 

blackbery

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I realize some Democrats also had their hands out too, like Billionaires Pelosi family - but whether they repaid or not, I don't know yet.
Feel free to check and post a legit url link with list of unpaid debt owed to the govt.

Firms tied to Democratic lawmakers, their spouses got millions in PPP loans​


WASHINGTON — A handful of businesses associated with Democratic lawmakers collected millions of dollars worth of Paycheck Protection Program loans after it was revealed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband also benefited from the stimulus deal.

Companies linked to Reps. Matt Cartwright (D. Pa), Conor Lamb (D. Pa), TJ Cox (D. Calif) and Harley Rouda (D. Calif) received coronavirus loans, as did the family law firm of New York Democratic Rep. Anthony Brindisi, according to the data released by the Small Business Administration on Monday.

Paul Pelosi owns 8.1 percent of EDI Associates, which got a loan of between $350,000 and $1 million. The company invests in the El Dorado Hotel in Sonoma, Calif. Pelosi’s stake is worth between a quarter-million and half-million dollars, according to official disclosure forms.

PPP loans can be converted into grants if companies with up to 500 employees, and in some cases more, spend 60 percent on payroll. In two deals brokered in part by Nancy Pelosi, Congress overwhelmingly approved $670 billion for the program.

Everyone knows that Piglose has been grifting, stealing & doing illegal insider trades for 50 yrs.
Crazy Nancy worth over $150 M after 'working' in Congress!
They need to AUDIT her!😗😗










 

blackbery

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Millions in PPP loans to companies linked to Pelosi's husband, a Kardashian, other celebs forgiven​

The company of NFL legend Tom Brady, whose net worth is $250 million, received a $960,000 PPP loan that has been forgiven.


Some companies owned by wealthy celebrities that received millions from the government-funded Paycheck Protection Program, intend to help small businesses survive the pandemic, will reportedly not have to repay the money.

The Good American jean company of celebrity influencer Khloe Kardashian, whose net worth is estimated at about $50 million, received a roughly $1.25 million PPP loan, according to Pro Publica, the nonprofit, investigative news-gathering group.

The loan and its interest have been forgiven, the group also found.

The health food company TB 12, owned by NFL star quarterback Tom Brady, whose individual net worth is estimated at roughly $250 million, had a $960,000 forgiven.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul Pelosi, has an 8.1% share in the restaurant business EDI Associates, according to The Daily Mail. Financial disclosures show the California couple has a net worth of $43 million to $202 million. EDI Associates took out two loans, worth over $1.7 million in total, which were both forgiven, including interest.😭😭😭






 

blackbery

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probably not in our lifetime. He is the king of thieves and hoodwinks, funded by the grand wizards BUT - his SMUG finger wagging is about to end up in the ditch because look at what his jupiter and saturn hold for Uranus in Taurus about to jump on him. One thing leads to another. He'll end up defecting is my guess. Claim asylum in another country and likely will have all his assets frozen.

Remember the billion dollar deal he gave to his corrupt, criminal cabal with millions going to himself of course...just before he
left the WH! It's no wonder people call him the anti-Christ. Him & O'Biden & Killary are the three evil trinity!

I agree that he will claim Kenyan citizenship once the arrest warrants are issued. Do they have
an extradition treaty with the US? If so, he'll run to another country that doesn't. Total douchebag traitor.


$1.7-billion payment to Iran was all in cash due to effectiveness of sanctions, Obama says​


We paid in cash, but not U.S. currency. Wary of using U.S. bills for a variety of reasons involving concealment, the Obama White House had the money converted to untraceable Euros, Swiss francs, and other foreign currencies.


KEYWORD: UNTRACEABLE ☹️☹️☹️


 

blackbery

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Ron Wyden’s Wife Raked in PPP Loans While Laying Off Hundreds​

The Oregon Democrat warned that wealthy business owners could abuse the loan program.
Financial disclosures suggest his wife did just that.☹️☹️☹️


Nancy Bass Wyden, the multimillionaire owner of New York's Strand bookstore, received $2.7 million in Paycheck Protection Program loans between 2020 and 2021 and nonetheless went on to lay off 180 employees.
Small businesses were eligible for the federally forgiven loans on the condition that they used a majority of the funds to keep employees on the payroll.

 
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