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[david starling]

There were unrecorded meetings between members of Trump's 2016 campaign with Russian officials. There's no proof OR disproof of collusion possible under those circumstances, and therefore under "innocent until proven guilty" no collusion can be claimed.

There IS proof that Russian agents posing as Americans influenced the 2016 election in Trump's favor, which DOESN'T claim or require collusion with his campaign.

Beccaglass, even if I had access to big, oversized red text like yours, I still wouldn't use it to shout back at you!

 

[beccaglass]

really no point in debating with a trump-hater, they ignore actual evidence such as the meuller report, the i.g report & the durham report which all exonerate trump & his campaign with colluding with russia but state that it was the democrats, led by hussein, hrc who colluded with the russian spy danchenko to create a fake dossier. all the fbi, cia traitors have been fired but they really should have been indicted for treason.

the proof is in the pudding (the reports) & not the trump-hater's delusional mind, poor things, they can't even think clearly anymore, their entire lives are about trump trump trump.

 

[david starling]

really no point in debating with a trump-hater, they ignore actual evidence such as the meuller report, the i.g report & the durham report which all exonerate trump & his campaign with colluding with russia but state that it was the democrats, led by hussein, hrc who colluded with the russian spy danchenko to create a fake dossier. all the fbi, cia traitors have been fired but they really should have been indicted for treason.

the proof is in the pudding (the reports) & not the trump-hater's delusional mind, poor things, they can't even think clearly anymore, their entire lives are about trump trump trump.

It's just the reverse. There's no point debating about Trump with a Trump-lover.

 

[david starling]

As I recall, Trump said he declassified all of his White House documents by himself "with his mind", not with Executive Orders. Are there any Executive Orders on record showing the declassifications? He would have had to issue the EOs before he was out of office, not after he was no longer President.

Here's an article that looks factual saying that the document charges are criminal, not civil.

Is Trump mischaracterizing Presidential Records Act in criminal defense case?

Former President Donald Trump pleaded not guilty in June to 37 federal felony counts...

sfgate.com

 

[david starling]

The Presidential Records Act doesn't include penalties or enforcement provisions. However, there's another federal Code involved--

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Humanitarian]

To post #4:
If Democrats are communists, the communism that Democrats believe in isn't true communism, but rather the authoritarian conservative communism of China, Cuba and North Korea

 

[leomoon]

The entire story (Durham-Barr = tRump vs HRC reminds me of Pee-Wee Herman's "I know you are but what am I" for when Durham found zero (i.e. zilch), he was told to continue searching and that is when Durham & Barr went on a world wide trip including Italy in search of conspiracy theories:

The stunning hypocrisy of Bill Barr’s probe into the Russia-Trump investigation

A new report reveals how politicized and conspiratorial the Durham investigation was.

www.vox.com

Now, the new Times report reveals another episode where Durham used questionable means to try to prove Democratic malfeasance. The background is that the CIA had obtained some purported Russian intelligence memos asserting there was a deliberate plot by Clinton to drum up a phony investigation against Trump, but the memos were believed by internal analysts to be dubious.


Durham, however, tried to prove their veracity, in part by trying to secretly obtain emails from an executive at George Soros’s Open Society Foundation (since the memos had made some accusations about this executive). A judge, however, rejected Durham’s request to get this private citizen’s emails without informing him.


The Times reporters pointed out that this is quite similar to what the FBI did with the allegations in the dubious Steele dossier — except now, apparently, it’s okay because Barr’s people are the ones doing it.


It remains possible that Durham has found some unflattering things that he’ll disclose in an eventual report. But so far, his investigation has seemed to be a politicized mess, bumbling from one conspiracy theory and weak case to the next.


Everything Barr thought was true about the Trump-Russia investigation has turned out to be true about the investigation that he ordered.

 

[beccaglass]

1. U.S.

Judge Orders Biden Officials to Limit Contact With Social-Media Companies​

Ruling says Biden administration policing of social media likely violated First Amendment​

Judge Orders Biden Officials to Limit Contact With Social-Media Companies

The preliminary injunction says the Biden administration’s policing of social media likely violated the First Amendment.

www.wsj.com

 

[beccaglass]

The corrupt biden govt letting loose their dogs of political targeting of their opponents, burning down the constitution and engaging in possible treason.



January 6th individuals have never been given proper due process.

President Trump indicted three times. More to come.

Rudy Giuliani raided by the FBI over Hunter Biden’s laptop.

Trump's lawyers & associates raided, arrested, charged but not convicted of anything; Democrats using the justice system to bleed millions from them in lawyer's fees & as a warning to Trump's supporters as they cannot beat Trump in 2024.

All the while: Joe Biden has taken millions & millions in bribes along with his son from foreign countries.

51 Intelligence operators lied in a document submitted as evidence that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian Disinformation

Judge found Biden cartel guilty of fighting the 1st Amendment with their censorship industrial complex.

Nancy Pelosi along with the entire Democrat House of Representatives impeached Trump over a phone call to Ukraine which was proven to be justified.

FTX Sam Bankman-Fried had campaign finance charge dropped against him.

Well, that’s because the money was being funded to American politicians.

It is laughable on how corrupt and rogue the United States “Justice system” has become.

America is now a Banana Republic


DiscloseTV

 

[beccaglass]

The Department of Justice is a domestic terror organization, and this country will not be a free country until it is defunded and dismantled in its entirety. You cannot have freedom or democracy in a country when its corrupt security services are allowed to indict their opponents while covering up the crimes of their allies.

@seanmdav

 

[beccaglass]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686500091794726912

 

[leomoon]

U.S/ Intelligence Officials say that Putin wants to "hold on until 2025 in Ukraine " to see if trump gets elected.
They very likely have an agreement to pull out and give the country over to Russia. That should make the far right Republicans very happy.

 

[beccaglass]

Evidence Of Biden Burisma Corruption Is Overwhelming​

A key associate of Hunter Biden reluctantly admitted details about how the Biden family business was run — and those details are shocking.

Devon Archer, a longtime business partner and close friend of Hunter Biden’s, told congressional investigators Monday that at a meeting in Dubai on Dec. 4, 2015, top executives of Ukrainian energy concern Burisma asked Hunter Biden and himself for help from D.C. At the time of the meeting, Hunter Biden’s dad, Joe Biden, was serving as Barack Obama’s vice president as well as his point person on Ukraine. Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of Burisma, and Vadym Pozharski, a Burisma executive, wanted to get Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin fired as he was investigating the company for corruption, Archer told members of Congress.



Hunter Biden put Zlochevsky and Pozharski on a call with “D.C.,” Archer said, noting he was not part of the phone call so couldn’t possibly know who exactly was on the other end of the line. Joe Biden did meet and speak more than 20 times with various business associates who were paying for access to the Biden family, Archer admitted.

In this case, Burisma was paying Archer and Hunter Biden as much as $83,000 a month to serve on the Ukrainian energy concern’s board, despite the fact that neither man had relevant experience or expertise for the job outside of their frequent meetings and contact with the then-vice president. The two were hired the same month that the U.K. had opened an investigation into company officials. The money was well spent.

Evidence Of Biden Burisma Corruption Is Overwhelming

What an amazing series of events that led to Joe Biden fulfilling what Burisma was paying Hunter Biden to accomplish. What are the odds?

thefederalist.com

 

[beccaglass]

leomoon posted
U.S/ Intelligence Officials say that Putin wants to "hold on until 2025 in Ukraine " to see if trump gets elected.
They very likely have an agreement to pull out and give the country over to Russia. That should make the far right Republicans very happy.

us intelligence officials are nothing but liars & deep state operatives; are these the same intel officials who outright lied about the hunter laptop being russian disinformation? they all were caught in their lies; they should have been arrested but there is no justice in america anymore. if you are part of the deep state, you can commit murder & get away with your crimes but if you are a republican, they will come after you with one witch hunt after another.
all the reports exonerated trump but implicated hilary, hussein, biden & many others in colluding with a russian spy to create a fake
dossier. shiff lied so much about it that he was finally censured by the reps; again, he should have been arrested along with the rest of the blue democrat, activist machine criminals. brennan, clapper, lisa page & her lover & everyone involved in the russia russia hoax have been fired but none were charged with sedition or treason which is what they are guilty of.

 

[JUPITERASC]

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This is TRAGIC News for Mitch McConnell & Kevin McCarthy!! ​

LOOK AT WHAT WE JUST FOUND​

on Gateway Pundit
McConnell met with FTX and gave him a list of candidates to donate illegal funds
from his '..donor mule operation..'
McCarthy also got funds
as well as 13 of the 22 Rep Congress that kept Jordan and others from getting the Speaker position

BREAKING: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted of All 7 Counts - Sentence Could Be as High as 115 Years in Prison | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran

Disgraced former Billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried has been found guilty on all counts in his high profile fraud criminal trial in New York.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

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[david starling]

The Republicans are attacking their own fellow Republicans.

 

[JUPITERASC]

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45 countries could not beat Russia cause Russia is a real superpower

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[david starling]

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45 countries could not beat Russia cause Russia is a real superpower

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ONLY because Putin has nukes, has people convinced he would use them; and, because Putin is willing to needlessly sacrifice the lives of Russian soldiers and unjustifiably unleash death and destruction on a neighboring, Sovereign, Independent nation.

Putin is a real supertyrant, like his bffl, N.Korea's Kim Jong Un, who also has nukes and threatens to use them.