Quintiles

Monk

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Every decade, a math teacher adds to shapes involved in Phi/Golden Ratio, however they are not master key shape that all others fit into, the one below on link features the Golden Spiral:-

http://community.wolfram.com/groups/-/m/t/430342

A master key shape gives us so much more information, about the intelligence involved in all living shapes!
 

waybread

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Please take care of your health, Sir Monk.

You're familiar with this one, as well: https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/the-pentagram-of-venus/

In not understanding the math behind these patterns, I do wonder about the Babylonian sexagesimal (base 60) arithmetic system, where 60 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30. It is the basis for our zodiac, clock, and compass bearings.

What or Who is behind all of this?

There is also a whole field & history of mystical numerology that I haven't studied.
 

david starling

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Please take care of your health, Sir Monk.

You're familiar with this one, as well: https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/the-pentagram-of-venus/

In not understanding the math behind these patterns, I do wonder about the Babylonian sexagesimal (base 60) arithmetic system, where 60 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30. It is the basis for our zodiac, clock, and compass bearings.

What or Who is behind all of this?

There is also a whole field & history of mystical numerology that I haven't studied.
Holy Toledo! How trippy is THAT?!:lol:
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Lady Waybread and David Starling,

I love riddles and the arts, so today i leave poetry!

Greek Proportion.

I am a ratio noticed by few.
A pyramid, a flower, in math and in you.
A golden mediocrity in planets and space,
Fibonicci's forty in my fifteenth place.
Though quite small, i stretch to infinity.
The ancient greeks raised me up to divinity
Fraternities exploit me without knowing my mean-ing.
Some people maintain i have a mystical leaning.....ha ha!

I feel that the Envelope Cardioid that has the right amount of envelopes could be a master key...but to what?

Some may say 5th Element Ha Ha! Perhaps GOD is Love, the heart shape is the symbol of love, but controversial, i will explain my symbolism later!

I leave a diagram on members download, Venus also produces a Cardioid:-
 

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Monk

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Hi Lady Waybread,

Thank you for mentioning Venus by retrograde motion that shows a cardioid and pentagram!

Most astrologers only know how Venus appears from Earth but there are interesting other graphs that show a cardioid between asterioids/planets/planets!

I'm sure you are old school, therefore, like me you began with making charts up from scratch without a computer!

Neil F. Michelsen needs respect for his many Ephemeris' where calcalations were only possible by hand before computers, sadly he died in 1990!

His last book is very interesting, called "Tables of Planetary Phenomena", it was the dawn of the computer age, and he was very interested in retrograde motion/orbits and how graphs by computers would look if you were on one planet looking at another...see if you can see some cardioids below on private members download where you can see a few of the graphs featured in the book:-
 

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Monk

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Please view graph regarding Pluto/Chiron on private members download, it looks like an angel fish....perhaps a fallen angel fish, Ha Ha!
 

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Monk

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The Bee/BeeHive and the Owl has long association in symbolism in secret religion....why has the Owl been associated with being wise?

Perhaps it shows in his face with the Golden Ratio/Fibonacci Spiral?

I leave with fun poetry!

A wise old owl, sat in an oak,
The more he heard, the less he spoke,
The Less he spoke, the more he heard,
Why aren't we all like that wise old bird?

There was a wise old owl,
Who lived up a tree.
He sat upon a branch,
So all the world he'd see.
He looked at an obelisk,
He looked at a bee.
He looked at the White House,
But he winked at me...Ha Ha!

Picture of Owl on private members download, with Golden Spiral and mirror image making a Cardioid:-
 

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Stellium6th

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Has the ring of a song.

Did you make it? I like it

Be careful with these commas, though: ''A wise old owl, sat in an oak,.'' You are separating the subject and the predicate :p
 
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Monk

Premium Member
Hi Stellium6th,

Do you live in America?

I do make small spelling mistakes due to pain being very disabled, however you may say math, but on the other side of the pond in London, i say MATHS, just cultural difference like a song you wanted:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oEmPP5dTM

In latin we would fight "Arguendo" about "Aurea Mediocritas", i would rather fight in Math or Maths....depending where we come from!
 

waybread

Well-known member
Hi, Monk-- Hope you're feeling better. I've been traveling and not checking in much to AC.

Amazing graphics!

Now what is behind all of this? Were we talking only about plants and animals, I might postulate an evolutionary explanation: that either species with pronounced geometries have a survival advantage; or else that so long as an adopted trait doesn't limit a species' fitness in some way, that trait is liable to get passed on through the generations.

But when the same patterns show up in inorganic matter on earth as well as in the orbits of celestial objects, something else seems afoot. And if so, is God a mathematician? (i.e. God as the Creative Principle of the cosmos.) And if so, why?
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Lady Waybread,

So we open the "Big Can of Beans"....."Is God a mathematician?"

To help Stellium6th, who is Spanish, i would go to art, what was Spanish Salvador Dali trying to express with his "Sacrament of the Last Supper" that shows a Dodecahedron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sacrament_of_the_Last_Supper

Waybread is associated with the United States and Canada, so i thought i would leave something for her to ponder in History!

The founding fathers of America were philosophers, and were keen on Phi being the math of the creator, so we find this symbolism in Washington DC., this has nothing to do with satanism, but they were also pretty keen on egyptian philosophy as well!

Phi can be 1.618, however the most traditional fraction can be Phi=5^.5*.5+.5 .....Phi is about 5's....hope i put the full stops in for Stellium6th's satisfaction, (joke).

http://www.goldennumber.net/five-phi/

I need to stretch, i'll be back soon!
 

waybread

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Sir Monk, I get that many thoughtful people are taken with mathematics. But what do you think is going on with life forms and the cosmos?
 

Monk

Premium Member
If you push me i think that Macrocosm and Microcosm actually works with PHI, obviously as an astrologer you know about this ancient thesis, so not confusing you with maths:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrocosm_and_microcosm

I'm on firmer ground with MICROCOSM, please view link:-

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107143909.htm

It must be observed that i'm a Maverick, being a person who shows independence of thought and action, a hybrid between an astrologer, philosopher and ASTRONOMER!

So link theory below may be proven wrong in time:-

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2003/oct/08/is-the-universe-a-dodecahedron

I pause because we know so little about the cosmos, we know 4%, 21% is Dark Matter, and 75% is Dark Energy....we know nothing about this???

http://www.scienceforthepublic.org/things-to-know/cosmos/cosmos-dark-matter-dark-energy/

I do my best to find the math of God, which is my prime search, but i can only show where we are in science during this era....however it is an interesting topic!
 
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Monk

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Hi Lady Waybread,

There is a case for plants and animals for this to be evolutionary, but space and planets perhaps not?

Perhaps time for pause in thinking, flowers are interesting with sacred geometry, at least less "powered" in making our brains hurt ha ha!

Picture on private members download:-
 

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Monk

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Hi Lady Waybread,

It must be noted, in astronomy and maths, i may not be right, however please tell, with so many quintiles, am i following my path regarding astrology interpretation?

You did ask how my quintiles effected me, is it how you thought?

I would say slightly before astronomy, my first love was "Sacred Geometry"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry

Obviously i'm complex in nature, but is it how you thought?
 

waybread

Well-known member
Monk, as I've indicated previously, I have a severe case of math anxiety-- thanks in large part to a junior high school teacher who forced kids to work out "blind" problems on the chalk board, then got mad and threw chalk board erasers when we didn't get the right answer-- in front of the entire class. I was terrified of him. I took away from math class that math was frightening. (This was the "new math" of the 1960s, teaching adolescents how to work out problems in base 7 or whatnot, vs. learning how to balance a checking account.) He was followed by a 9th grade algebra teacher who was the most wooden, unexpressive teacher I ever had. From her I "learned" that there is no joy in mathematics. And 9th grade algebra was as far as I went.with math/s. I did well in the humanities and social science classes, so that is where I ventured.

I am in awe of someone like you who dances on rainbows in a sacred geometry universe that I can glimpse from afar, but not explore for myself.

I am, however, very interested in the nature of the biosphere and cosmos. I might be up for the remedial version of Sacred Geometry for Dummies. Astrologically I am very interested in harmonics, because I think that where there are no major aspects between planets, minor aspects may be very revealing of human motivations. Just maybe harmonic charts could be my window into sacred geometry at a very low, entry level.

Monk, I know you've had health problems, and hope you are having some good days, just now. Please keep posting, because even if my playing Esmeralda to your Quasimodo doesn't enlighten Esmeralda; all of these threads are archived, and you never know who might find them and blossom under your tutelage.
 
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