Putin: White hat or villain?

david starling

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Putin is planning on breaking International Law by annexing territory that belongs to a Sovereign nation, no matter how many lives are lost. Nothing this psychotic or murderous can be explained by his natal chart alone, imo. But, I can see him going along with Saturnian-influenced deviants just to remain in power.
 

JUPITERASC

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PUTIN NATAL WITH CURRENT TRANSITS

The United States has stepped up the rhetoric around nuclear war

in response to Russian President Vladimir Putin's speech around nuclear war.
Is the U.S. actively engaged in war? :)

This is only the third time Russia has mobilized its army so this is serious business.
Russia mobilising only three times and each was actually before a world war, thats really really scary.
for the record, there's no way to prep for a nuclear attack.
Those who are not annihilated by the initial blasts

and the fallout does not poison afterward
would slowly starve in a poisoned world

after their stored supplies run out.
would be game over for humans. The radiation fallout would eventually spread world wide



. LIST of countries that were bombed/attacked by the United States after World War II Wars:
Japan - (1945 - During WWII) (first use of atomic weapons against civilians)

Korea and China (1950-53)
Guatemala (1954)

Indonesia (1958)
Cuba (1959-61)
Guatemala (1960)
Congo (1964)
Laos (1964-73)

Vietnam (1961-73)
Cambodia (1969-70)
Guatemala (1967-69)
Grenada (1983)

Lebanon (1983, 1984)
Libya (1986)
El Salvador (1980-e)
Nicaragua (1980s)
Iran (1987)

Panama (1989)
Iraq (1991)
Kuwait (1991)
Somalia (1993)
Bosnia (1994, 1995)
Sudan (1998)
Afghanistan (1998)
Yugoslavia (1999)
Yemen (2002)

Iraq (2003-2011)
Afghanistan (2001-2015)
Pakistan (2007-2015)
Somalia (2007, 2008, 2011)
Yemen (2009, 2011)

Libya (2011, 2015)
Syria (2014-2015)

- This is not a complete list
- considering History before the Second World War
and what was not included in the official lists.
- Out of 246 years the US exists
only 16 years America lived in peace :)

- Many countries were attacked, with participation of NATO.
- (Remember who is the World Criminal, against Humanity and humanity!!!)

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david starling

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Well, a Mod interpretation of the Putin chart that's being used, is that Pluto on the M.C. in his 10th House rules the Ascendant in Scorpio. So, Putin's on an obsessive power-trip, and can't bring his milder Libran placements to bear on the matter.

Even if we employ Pluto being in Leo, disposited by the Sun, then with the Sun in Libra, It's disposited by Venus in Scorpio, which leads right back to Pluto on the M.C.

Also, as Trad has it, Saturn joys in the 12th in Putin's chart and will be Putin's undoing because of his evil behavior.
 

JUPITERASC

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The bulletin for Zaporozhye is compiled in Russian and Ukrainian.
The question in it is formulated as follows:


"...Are you in favor of secession of the Zaporozhye region from Ukraine,
formation of an independent state by the Zaporozhye region
and its entry into the Russian Federation as a subject of the Russian Federation...?"
Below is a similar text in Ukrainian.
Only two options - the answer "...yes..." or "...no...".
Pay attention that it refers to Zaporozhye region, which leaves the room for future actions
:)

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JUPITERASC

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Putin & Russia aren’t to blame for this conflict
the fault is with the US empire
and it’s a huge mistake which is fast forwarding it’s loss of hegemony
media is simply an expression of the Ukraine government and an outlet for all it's propaganda.
Jacques Baud corrects the over the top assertions in the media that Putin threatened the use of nuclear weapons

2 ships with US Navy soldiers were in Denmark
and now Nordstream 2 is broken exactly there - coincidence?
The reason everyone is so dedicated to Ukraine is

because Israel wants to expand in a new country and Ukraine seemed the ideal location


For context
the Hiroshima bomb was 15 kilotons of TNT
The old Russian missiles come with a 20 "...Megaton..." (20,000 kilotons) warhead
and simply destroy entire regions of a country.
a single Russian SARMAT 2 missile carries up to Ten x 750 kiloton warheads
that can EACH kill a major city.
Hence a single Russian ballistic nuclear missile can wipe out a small country.

Destroying all life on earth is an important part of the job, and I'm ready to do that. - Liz Truss


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JUPITERASC

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In a US survey before Zelensky came to power :)
80% of Ukrainians wanted peace with Russia (status quo)
and 80% said Ukraine is under US control.

Zelensky promised Ukrainians he will have peaceful relations with Russia :)
they voted for him
but
when he came to power he did the opposite. :)

Thus the uprising to this regime.
After eight years these people have a chance to breakway from the Zelensky (US and NATO) regime
and a chance to live in peace with Russia as they wished for in the US survey. :)

All the best for these people
Donbass is being reunited with the motherland.

The suffering of Donbass is finally goona end after 31 long years.
they suffered enough from US regime change, NATO expansionism and Zelensky betrayal.



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JUPITERASC

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Somehow Russia via PUTIN
will rescue Europe once again
like 1945, at least partly
if the european politicians will awake finally

main reasons for Ukraine war

1. Bring down Russia/PUTIN :)

2. Stop Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
3. Make back the trillions of dollars lost from Afghanistan withdrawal,

by

4. A new cold war.

5. Bring down Europe.

i.e
at the time of the NS 1 and NS 2 pipeline explosions, US NATO military maneuvers
were taking place in the Bonholm island region.
At that time, a restricted area was set up around the entire area in which the blasting took place.
In order to blast a pipeline of 15 mm thick steel pipes with a 100 mm concrete protective casing

at a depth of 70 meters, it requires a special team with special equipment
(transport ship and submarine) to carry out such an action,

which is only related to the military maneuvers was possible.
https://youtu.be/KDc6gpl20tg. https://youtu.be/lkL77imphTw


US praised for Nord Stream explosion
“...Thank you USA...” said Poland’s former defence & foreign minister Sikorski

Deep down, Europe desperately needs (& wants) to have peaceful relations with PUTIN Russia
but they're scared '...shirtless........' of US
With all those US military bases on European soil,

who wouldn't be scared? Well, that's the tragedy of being a colony

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JUPITERASC

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Given Washington’s inability to end the war in Ukraine with the defeat of Russian arms
they try instead to turn the ruins of the Ukrainian state
into an open wound in Russia’s side that will never heal.
From the beginning, the problem with this approach was
that Russia always had the resources to dramatically escalate the fighting
and end the fighting in Ukraine on very harsh terms. Escalation is now in progress.

In a public statement that should not surprise anyone
President PUTIN announced the partial mobilization of 300,000 reservists.
Many of these men will replace regular Russian Army forces in other parts of Russia
and release them for operations in Ukraine.
Other reservists will augment the Russian units already committed in Eastern Ukraine.

Washington always mistook PUTIN’s readiness to negotiate
and limit the scope and destructiveness of the campaign in Ukraine
as evidence of weakness - when it was clear that PUTIN’s aims
were always restricted to the elimination of the NATO threat to Russia in Eastern Ukraine.



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As conditions favorable to Moscow develop in Eastern Ukraine
and the Russian position in the world grows stronger
Washington confronts a stark choice:
Talk about having successfully “...degraded Russian power...” in Ukraine and scale back its actions.
Or risk a regional war with Russia that will engulf Europe.

Russia already controls the territory that produces 95% of Ukrainian GDP.
It has no need to press further west.
Moscow will finish its work in Donbas, then, turn its attention to the capture of Odessa

a Russian city that saw terrible atrocities committed by Ukrainian forces against Russian citizens in 2014.

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JUPITERASC

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Congratulations to Russia PUTIN for conducting a successful referendum :)
For 8 years people were bombed and slaughtered like cattle every day,
now these people have a new life


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many powerful forces were interested in taking down NS pipes.
But it takes great technical know-how to carry out such a feat.
Suggestions that Russia did it to its own property belong to the clown's world.


The US, Poland and Norway possess such technology
plus they are clear beneficiaries.

Had to be authorized by the US :)

Russia can just turn off the nozzle anytime so NO WAY PUTIN sabotaged NS :)
You could make a case that this was Russia sabotaging it's own pipeline - but it's incredibly unlikely.

- if this was America, it's America declaring war on Europe.
Definitely a way to prevent any EU country from striking a deal with Russia to renew gas flows.


If not, what other motive and who gains the most?
It's a brazen act of war against Germany.
Act of open war against Russia.
US Marines, for some reason or other, have just landed in Poland, within the last 2 days.
This was either CIA, US Naval Intelligence, Army Intelligence, or US State Department Intelligence.

Anyone's guess is as good as mine.
Definitely the USA is involved in this. American ships were spotted in that Exact area in August
where the accident on the Nord Stream lines had now occurred..

Who knows what they put down there and then waited for the right time.
Moreover, just near the island of Bornholm, the Americans turned off the automatic identification systems for ships.
It was there, to the northeast of the island,

that a pressure drop on the pipeline was recorded yesterday, accompanied by a gas leak.
The USS Kearsarge was there 50km from the rupture and 30 km from the other
This could have been done by a SEAL team released underwater from a sub with zero trace.

So if ships were in the area, then the US is not trying to hide its involvement.
suspect that submarine deployed mines were already in place
at the time of Brandon's announcement that The US had the capability to stop the pipeline.
T
hat's why he was so certain about it. :)


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JUPITERASC

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more they try to blame Russia for everything they are doing themselves,
the more I admire the patience of PUTIN

They are really trying everything they can to provoke Russia's anger.

the sabotaging of Nordstream 1 & 2 limits the options for both Russia and Germany
as to restarting the gas supply
if that proved necessary or advantageous and hence, why it makes no sense
for either to be involved
Ukraine obviously has the motivation
but it is doubtful whether they have the means to undertake such an operation in the Baltic Sea
which leaves the US and its rabid Northern European allies (eg. Poland)


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Jacob Dreizin has advised that
the result of the referendum in Kherson has been delayed for ‘...a few days...’, :)
rather than an immediate result
as Russia is considering how to respond to the pipeline sabotage

The precipitating event seems obvious.
The referenda returns began to come in over the participation threshold and firmly pro Russian. Then, boom
It might be kind of amusing to see Snowden conscripted into the tech dept of the Russian military
let's see
does Putin have a sense of humour? I think he does.
As a citizen Snowden can be called up to serve.


It's better to be prudent than impulsive. There are many elements to be considered in this game.

As Putin is surely being provoked, it's much wiser to keep the opponents guessing as to how he will react.
Gazprom has announced that it is cutting off all gas supplies traveling to Europe via Ukraine

because "...Ukrainian Naftogaz refused to fulfill its contractual obligations..."


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JUPITERASC

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US is crazy enough, however, I hope US understand basic physics :)
and the fact that
a nuclear war between the US and Russia means mutual destruction

president Putin has dozens of times stated

that
"...nuclear war should NEVER start..." as there would be no winners.

Beside using nukes

NATO may perform a massive conventional attack:
idea being to launch around 4500 Tomahawk missiles salvo at Russia. :)

Russian doctrine
and Putin also made it clear
allows a nuclear response to this kind of attack as well.
Since Tomahawks will be launched from multiple directions/countries

suppose the whole NATO
with no exceptions

will be targeted for a response strike
so it may be an all out response

i.e. nuclear apocalypse


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Russia's official military deployment principles
(from the Ministry of Defense):

The country is allowed to use nuclear weapons:
1) When Russia's enemies are using nuclear weapons

or
other types of weapons of mass destruction on Russian territories and/or its allies

2) If Russia receives reliable data on a launch of ballistic missiles attacking its territory
or that of Russian allies

3) If Russia's critical government or military sites are attacked by the enemy

in a way that would undermine nuclear forces response actions

4) Or if the country faces an EXISTENTIAL THREAT through the use of conventional weapons


Hopefully there are some sane people left in the Pentagon. :)

Here is the actual quote in the context of what Putin said

"...They have even resorted to the nuclear blackmail.

I am referring
not only to the Western-encouraged shelling of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant

which poses a threat of a nuclear disaster
but also to the statements made by some high-ranking representatives of the leading NATO countries
on the possibility and admissibility of using weapons of mass destruction
- nuclear weapons
against Russia.
I would like to remind those who make such statements regarding Russia

that our country has different types of weapons as well
and some of them are more modern than the weapons NATO countries have.


In the event of a threat to the territorial integrity of our country
and to defend Russia and our people
we will certainly make use of all weapon systems available to us. This is not a bluff...".




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JUPITERASC

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The US likes to play it’s geopolitical games in arenas away from its territory.
While the US isn’t exactly an enemy of Europe
it’s certainly not a friend.
US always acts in self interest.

The US foreign policy since WW2 has been to make 100% sure that conflicts are not fought on its soil. :)

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more they try to blame Russia for everything they are doing themselves,
the more I admire the patience of PUTIN

They are really trying everything they can to provoke Russia's anger.

the sabotaging of Nordstream 1 & 2 limits the options for both Russia and Germany
as to restarting the gas supply
if that proved necessary or advantageous and hence, why it makes no sense
for either to be involved
Ukraine obviously has the motivation
but it is doubtful whether they have the means to undertake such an operation in the Baltic Sea
which leaves the US and its rabid Northern European allies (eg. Poland)


CURRENT TRANSITS ZAPOROZHYE UKRAINE

Jacob Dreizin has advised that
the result of the referendum in Kherson has been delayed for ‘...a few days...’, :)
rather than an immediate result
as Russia is considering how to respond to the pipeline sabotage

The precipitating event seems obvious.
The referenda returns began to come in over the participation threshold and firmly pro Russian. Then, boom
It might be kind of amusing to see Snowden conscripted into the tech dept of the Russian military
let's see
does Putin have a sense of humour? I think he does.
As a citizen Snowden can be called up to serve.


It's better to be prudent than impulsive. There are many elements to be considered in this game.

As Putin is surely being provoked, it's much wiser to keep the opponents guessing as to how he will react.
Gazprom has announced that it is cutting off all gas supplies traveling to Europe via Ukraine

because "...Ukrainian Naftogaz refused to fulfill its contractual obligations..."
 

JUPITERASC

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amazed how decent
or in other words
how much self control Putin and the Russia armed forces have
not to respond with military force

to this act of sabotage
or terrorist attacks on Russian property.
PUTIN Russia is trying hard not to escalate conflict
on the Ukraine issue they have demonstrated that virtue of patience for over 8 years :)
only the truly mentally deficient or supporters of hegemony by empire could say otherwise

Hard to ignore historical facts.

IF the Western narrative blaming PUTIN Russia is correct
THEN: 1. PUTIN Russia was able to move undetected into Denmark and Swedish waters :)

which means their defenses don’t work, at all.
So all that money they spend on defense is completely useless.



2. If they really thought it was PUTIN Russia
the countries near the explosions
would respond with some kind of defensive posture

to protect themselves
from PUTIN Russia blowing up their navy’s, their infrastructure, their coast lines.
They haven’t responded defensively at all. :)



3. PUTIN Russia would have bypassed active NATO operations in the Baltic Sea
right where the explosions occurred completely undetected by NATO/US forces

which means they’re really bad at their jobs.


Obviously PUTIN Russia didn’t do this.
So the west has been entrapped in an obvious lie. :)

What else are they lying about?


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JUPITERASC

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Amazing Speech
Russian Pres. V PUTIN standing strong against tyranny
Vladimir PUTIN sent the Russian Army to protect Independent Republics of Donetsk and
Luhansk and the new ones Kherson and Zaporizhia
and Russian territories for over one thousand years have returned to the motherland
Congratulations, from those of us that have the capacity for critical thinking
and are not brainwashed by Western mainstream media or our Government :)
to those peoples in Eastern Ukraine that have chosen to exercise their international right
to self-determination
and now all together are returned to the Motherland Forever
UN Charter (1945) expresses the position that
peoples have the right to self-determination
in Article 1 of Chapter 1.
Congratulations to the DPR and LPR for its return to the Russian Federation
by breaking free from the oppression and the genocidal crime of the evil terror illegal regime of Kyiv
encouraged by the warmongering US


So, US, NATO and UK, intended to break up the Russian Federation :)
as a result of the conflict they orchestrated in 2014. :)
But the Russian Federation has grown bigger. And it might get even bigger too.
All that was necessary for the collective West, was to leave Ukraine alone :)
and not try to pressure Russia PUTIN.
And having participated in the coup, they could have accepted the Minsk agreement.
This could have ended with the Minsk agreement.
The suffering that Russia has experienced
has made the Russian people stronger, more compassionate, and more courageous

than the easy living, coddled people of the West.


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JUPITERASC

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absolutely puzzled by Western leaders

especially United States, who have chosen to view and treat Putin like Hussein and Gaddafi.
PUTIN is infinitely different from either

and significantly smarter than most world leaders. :)

As this develops further, always remember Putin's famous quote from 2013:
"...The West Lives In Debt...."

The Soviet Union dissolved when the debt to GDP ratio was reported to be around 140%

Going into the Ukraine SMO, Russia's debt to GDP ratio was around 15%-17%.
PUTIN understands the ramifications of debt.

Ironically, the West, especially in the United States
are repeating the same financial mistakes of the Soviet Union
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The United States debt to GDP ratio is around 130%.
It can definitely go well beyond 140%, but it's simply not sustainable. :)
Hyperinflation, debt maturities, etc., will eventually lead to collapse.

PUTIN is not a rabid despot, as many would like us to believe.

He's a 3 dimensional chess player who calculates, plans, and executes
unlike other leaders who can best be deemed as Pavlovian.

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JUPITERASC

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On the Mexico-Texas-USA comparison :)
Why is it okay for A to do something but not for B to do the same?
True leader PUTIN spoke for freedom of all people of this world


Basically netanyahu's country, 46's country and their sister countries in the West
are modern day, "...cities of the plain...”.
They want to completely subjugate Russia
and in doing so
also be able to more easily subjugate Syria, Iran, Yemen

and every other nation on the planet
especially those that have resources
and

especially impressionable, corruptible and morally vulnerable very young people

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JUPITERASC

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PUTIN's speech will go down in history :)
the message in his speech is finally said on a global scale and the world is listening
PUTIN is quite correct, and people realize it.
Russia saved Europe from Napoleon & Hitler

and now hopefully from USA, last of the colonial powers.
conflict between the west and Russia first and foremost a spiritual war

and PUTIN Russia is on the right side of history in this regard


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HeartTree

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Pluto is moving out of Capricorn (with a few dips)for more than 240 years, and the toxic masculinity goes with it. Bye bye....🖐🖐🖐 Time for Putin to retreat? 🇫🇮 is fine example of :pluto: in :aquarius: leadership at the moment. Women in charge. 🇫🇮, like all countries where women were in charge, survived the corona crisis economically better than others. Because the focus was on cooperation and the economical and mental well-being of all citizens. It wasn't perfect though
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From March 2023 we see this universal :aquarius: ideal of brotherhood in action. Pluto in Aquarius increases need to organize society again..Maybe it’s powersift form few to the people as one author speculated. Probably a change of power in 🇷🇺.
 

blackbery

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Good Luck joining NATO, the most corrupt institution in the world...IF it's allowed into the corrupt club.😌
Hope your military is ready to go kill innocent civilians in whatever country NATO decides needs
a 'regime change'.😗
Get ready for a huge influx of migrants from Africa, Venezuela, Somalia!
But don't complain when they turn your country into a dangerous, hellhole like the rest of europe!

Thank GOD Italy is leading the way to FREEDOM.😂😂😂

:pluto::capricorn: is all about the power structures that dominate the world...like NATO/EU/IMF etc.
There is a worldwide UPRISING by the PEOPLE to rid itself of the satanic cabal. :saturn::square::uranus: won't end
until end of 2022 & plenty of corrupt govts will fall o be replaced with leaders who value soverignity & justice.

Chile just voted out their Libtard policies & replaced it with a nationalist constitution!

Putin is the modern day Knight fighting against the depravity/toxicity of the globalists.🤗🤗🤗

Oh, and there are only TWO genders. Male/female. :mars::venus:
Toxic masculinity is a term made up by the lunatic left to prevent men standing up against tyranny & oppression.
The 'soy boy' latte crowd are such cowards they need a 'safe space' to hide from the TRUTH!😗😗


HELSINKI, Finland — Finland will become official NATO member by Christmas, the U.S. ambassador to Finland predicted
in a conversation with reporters and experts.
 
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