Putin: White hat or villain?

JUPITERASC

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lin posted He is a Monster LIN
got any astrology or facts or evidence of such a statement? or just spouting off your personal opinion? you get that this is not a blog for putin haters? it's about astrology. your comments are about as helpful in deciphering putin's chart as a wolf guarding a flock of sheep.

Former U.S. President Barack Obama has made a bombshell statement on Russia.
Barack Obama admitted that "..many people had sympathy for Russia :)
during the annexation of Crimea in 2014. He said great numbers of Russian-speaking residents of Crimea
supported the idea of joining Russia.."
The statement comes amid the ongoing US PROXYwar in Ukraine.
Watch this report for more.


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david starling

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Transiting Mars (war development) in tropical Leo had just reached 1° orb square to tr.Uran (surprising development) in Taurus, when Prigozhin announced the Wagner Rebellion in Russia.
 

beccaglass

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ds posted
Transiting Mars (war development) in tropical Leo had just reached 1° orb square to tr.Uran (surprising development) in Taurus, when Prigozhin announced the Wagner Rebellion in Russia.

that certainly was unexpected. mars + uranus mutiny. the wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin has had many spats with the russian military command & been very disrespectful; if he was in the regular army, he would have been dismissed. but now, with his uprising akin to treason, he'll be dealt with very swiftly. what was he thinking? that he & how many rebels were going to overthrow the russian government? he may be part of a cia-backed coup but it is already a dismal failure. uranus aspect are sudden & then over with very quickly. prigozhin will be lucky if he survives past the weekend.
 

Shanti

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Maurice Fernandez made me aware of the importance of transiting Yods.

When Putin made the fatal error of setting up plans to invade Ukraine starting with an weird published article in july 2021 and later followed in the autumn, with adding troupes surrounding the borders of Ukraine, he had at transiting Yod involving his natal Neptune Mercury.

This mirror the confused state of mind he was in. Which time have showed. He warned countries to going into NATO et.c. And as a result of this insane invasion he got neighboring countries like Finland shiver with fear, and joining NATO instantly, and Sweden in the go. Russia have a long history of warmaking with neigbour countries. And these deluded thoughts from the nepunian mercury transits did shake up great fears.

Reports followed about his isolation during COVID, and the error of surrounding himself with bad advisors telling him just what he wanted to hear.
He thought that the "military special operation" would be over in days. But wrongly calculated during the influence of the natal mercury neptune aspect being set off in transits by the transiting Yod.
 

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JUPITERASC

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ds posted
Transiting Mars (war development) in tropical Leo had just reached 1° orb square to tr.Uran (surprising development) in Taurus, when Prigozhin announced the Wagner Rebellion in Russia.

that certainly was unexpected. mars + uranus mutiny. the wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin has had many spats with the russian military command & been very disrespectful; if he was in the regular army, he would have been dismissed. but now, with his uprising akin to treason, he'll be dealt with very swiftly.

what was he thinking? that he & how many rebels were going to overthrow the russian government? he may be part of a cia-backed coup but it is already a dismal failure. uranus aspect are sudden & then over with very quickly. prigozhin will be lucky if he survives past the weekend.

Chechen warlord and Russian President Vladimir Putin's close ally, Ramzan Kadyrov :)
has said that his forces will help crush down the Wagner Mutiny.
He warned Wagner fighters of tough response

as they took over two cities in Russia and are cruising towards Moscow


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david starling

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ds posted
Transiting Mars (war development) in tropical Leo had just reached 1° orb square to tr.Uran (surprising development) in Taurus, when Prigozhin announced the Wagner Rebellion in Russia.

that certainly was unexpected. mars + uranus mutiny. the wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin has had many spats with the russian military command & been very disrespectful; if he was in the regular army, he would have been dismissed. but now, with his uprising akin to treason, he'll be dealt with very swiftly. what was he thinking? that he & how many rebels were going to overthrow the russian government? he may be part of a cia-backed coup but it is already a dismal failure. uranus aspect are sudden & then over with very quickly. prigozhin will be lucky if he survives past the weekend.

Possibly this is a staged "rebellion" planned in advance between Putin and Prigozchin. The outcome might reveal the reason. I read that Prigozchin is planning a fast exit to South Africa when the time is right.
 

beccaglass

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shantii posted
When Putin made the fatal error of setting up plans to invade Ukraine starting with an weird published article in july 2021 and later followed in the autumn, with adding troupes surrounding the borders of Ukraine, he had at transiting Yod involving his natal Neptune Mercury.
putin's mercury neptune is also joined by saturn (logic) & sun all in the diplomatic sign of libra, also conjunct the two most fortunate stars in the zodiac. spica, arcturus. putin never says or does anything without good reason. after trying to negotiate with nato who acted in bad faith for years, he knew it was the time to step in & save the people of the donbass region. over 14,000 had died at the hands of the ukraine nazi military, many children too. these are putin's people & they are part of greater russia.
despite what the dishonest media ruled by neptune & total fabrication....keeps churning out like the liars they have proven to be over & over again, the war in ukraine is being won by russia. the ukranian/mercenary soldiers have died at a ratio of at least 10 - 1. the military armaments provided by usa is being destroyed within days. the ukraine counter-offensive which they claimed was going to take out russia has failed epically.
putin employs a cautious approach to this conflict. he could have dropped a small nuclear bomb on ukraine back in 2020. saturn plays a large role in his discipline although his military commanders are the ones running the military operation. he trusts them fully.





Hyped Ukraine Counteroffensive Flops:
Zelensky, MSM Have To Admit Failure – Kiev’s Forces Haven’t Even Reached the First Russian Defense Line –
Foreign Minister Kuleba Is Already Pitching Support for the Next Offensive

  • How can you know for sure that the much hyped Ukrainian counteroffensive has flopped entirely? Because they are already talking about the next one.
  • Ukraine’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dmytro Kuleba:
  • “Ukraine can get the promised American Abrams tanks for the next counter-offensive, the current offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not the last and decisive one.”
  • The US and other Western Nations invested hundreds of billions into arming and training Kiev’s forces for a decisive offensive, that was to render spectacular results coinciding with the NATO meeting in Vilnius, Lithuania, on July 11th and 12th.
  • Almost 20 days into the operation, top officials have begun the work of saying that it’s not such a big deal.




 

beccaglass

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just a follow-up to the putin &, peter the great reference from before. putin's attraction to the past, the traditional, to his homeland can all be seen in his chart, both in the libra combinations and the mars in sag trine pluto in leo. with saturn featuring in concert with north node, his destiny is written in the starts to make russian great again. he has certainly achieved that. emulating peter the great worked greatly in his favor.


Putin compares himself to Peter the Great in quest to take back Russian lands​


President draws parallel with tsar who waged war on Sweden and says campaign in Ukraine stems from ‘basic values’

“Peter the Great waged the great northern war for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned [what was Russia’s],” the Russian president said on Thursday after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar.
 

beccaglass

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pluto moving in direct harmony with putin's moon in gemini shows pleasure with the people.​

this attempted coup by the wagner chief not popular with the russians who support putin at over 80% approvals.
is the coup an attempt to deflect from the enormous losses ukraine encountering now & in the past week as their big offensive move flopped every worse than the latest disney movie.

Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN​


 

david starling

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pluto moving in direct harmony with putin's moon in gemini shows pleasure with the people.​

this attempted coup by the wagner chief not popular with the russians who support putin at over 80% approvals.
is the coup an attempt to deflect from the enormous losses ukraine encountering now & in the past week as their big offensive move flopped every worse than the latest disney movie.

Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN​




It's only to be expected. Putin's burrowed into Ukrainian territory like a bloated, blood-sucking tick. Not easy to remove a tick when it's been in for too long.
 

JUPITERASC

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shantii posted
When Putin made the fatal error of setting up plans to invade Ukraine starting with an weird published article in july 2021 and later followed in the autumn, with adding troupes surrounding the borders of Ukraine, he had at transiting Yod involving his natal Neptune Mercury.


putin's mercury neptune is also joined by saturn (logic) & sun all in the diplomatic sign of libra, also conjunct the two most fortunate stars in the zodiac. spica, arcturus. putin never says or does anything without good reason. after trying to negotiate with nato who acted in bad faith for years, he knew it was the time to step in & save the people of the donbass region. over 14,000 had died at the hands of the ukraine nazi military, many children too. these are putin's people & they are part of greater russia.

despite what the dishonest media ruled by neptune & total fabrication....keeps churning out like the liars they have proven to be over & over again, the war in ukraine is being won by russia. the ukranian/mercenary soldiers have died at a ratio of at least 10 - 1. the military armaments provided by usa is being destroyed within days. the ukraine counter-offensive which they claimed was going to take out russia has failed epically.
putin employs a cautious approach to this conflict. he could have dropped a small nuclear bomb on ukraine back in 2020. saturn plays a large role in his discipline although his military commanders are the ones running the military operation. he trusts them fully.

South African Former President Reveals Real Reason Behind Ukraine War
MIR is Russia's equivalent of Visa/Mastercard system. :)
It does exactly the same and more countries are signing up.
This is hugely beneficial for all participating countries
because this brings both revenue and tourists and millions of business travellers

with various bank cards issued by Russia and other participating banks.
So this effectively brings financial and business benefits to Russia and all trading partners using this system.



  • How can you know for sure that the much hyped Ukrainian counteroffensive has flopped entirely? Because they are already talking about the next one.
  • Ukraine’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dmytro Kuleba:
  • “Ukraine can get the promised American Abrams tanks for the next counter-offensive, the current offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not the last and decisive one.”

  • The US and other Western Nations invested hundreds of billions into arming and training Kiev’s forces for a decisive offensive, that was to render spectacular results coinciding with the NATO meeting in Vilnius, Lithuania, on July 11th and 12th.
  • Almost 20 days into the operation, top officials have begun the work of saying that it’s not such a big deal.
 

JUPITERASC

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PUTIN TRANSITING SATURN:saturn: TETRAGON NATAL MARS:mars:


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“..It is essential to understand that Prigozhin has no military experience
and is not the ‘commander’ of Wagner..” :)

CIA, MI-6 and Mossad will have to pay for this attempt

One month ago the Washington Post published an interview with Zelensky.
The interviewer mentioned THEY (the WP) had received intelligence info
probably from the CIA, Pentagon, MI6 or Ukranian Intel sources
that the Ukranians had a back channel with Prigozhin
who was passing the coordinates of RUSSIAN FORCES to the Ukranians.

The Interviewer asked Zelensky several times if that info wss true.
Zelensky repeatedly dodged the questions.
RT put that interview on their frontpage.
Immediately, WP deleted the paragraphs about Prigozhin from their website.
But RT re-published those paragraphs, with an interesting analysis.
Google the RT article: "..Here are the Zelensky ‘treason’ quotes the Washington Post deleted.."
It was clear that either the WP was spreading some very serious BS
or Prigozhin was an all-out traitor.



Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the criminal proceedings against Wagner boss
Yevgeny Prigozhin will be dropped.
He also said that Prigozhin would go to Belarus.
Peskov, however, did not specify what Prigozhin will do in Belarus.
Peskov also said that all Wagner fighters
can sign a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia in the future.
He also said that members of Wagner who participated in the recent events will not be prosecuted.

Asked if Putin still trusted the head of the Russian defense ministry, Peskov said
he was not aware that "..anything has changed.." in that regard.
Peskov also said that the higher goal was achieved - to avoid bloodshed in an internal conflict
which is why the negotiations
between the Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko and Prigozhin were initiated.

He also stated that it was Lukashenko's initiative since he has known Prigozhin for a long time.
The spokesman of the Russian leader also said that Russia is grateful to Lukashenka
for his efforts to resolve the conflict with Wagner.
He added that personnel issues related to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
were not the subject of negotiations between Lukashenka and Prigozhin
since only the President of Russia can decide on that


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JUPITERASC

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Putin Most Likely Staged a Fake Coup

Prigozhin took the £6bn from the USA, rode up the highway to McDonalds,
met Putin and gave him half the money :)
they laughing and the Liberals are crying.


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Shanti

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Dream work fantasies and propaganda spam !

Waste of time.

This was in the video released from Prigozhin:
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Mr Prigozhin released a video clip on Telegram through his press service, expressing his scorn for the official narrative.

“The Defence Ministry is trying to deceive society and the president and tell us a story about how there was crazy aggression from Ukraine and that they were planning to attack us with the whole of Nato,” Mr Prigozhin said.


He continued his indictment of Russia's military motivations, alleging that the war was not about the demilitarisation or denazification of Ukraine, as publicly stated by Russian authorities.

The insurrection started with transiting Mars on the 'South Node' which is a universal principle of decrease and
selfundoing. The Mars principle (army) turned against him.
I saw this transit before it happened and wondered if there was to be some problem with the war for Putin.
But I did not anticipate that magnitude of events.

(Read Judith Hill's book on the nodes for more info about the transits to the south node and it's potential for trouble
with the transiting factor.)

The truth is that Putin have not been this weak for decades experts widely analyse.
The sense of ignorance of facts in this thread is sad. It downtracks the purpose of real astrology based more on objective logic and
not Propaganda dressed up with some meaningless astrological factors in the posts.

Gosh...:)
 

beccaglass

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shantii posted
The insurrection started with transiting Mars on the 'South Node' which is a universal principle of decrease and
selfundoing. The Mars principle (army) turned against him.
I saw this transit before it happened and wondered if there was to be some problem with the war for Putin.
But I did not anticipate that magnitude of events.

may i ask what you are referring to as there's no aspect with mars and the south node. mars is currently at 21 leo and south node is at 1 scorpio. no aspect. and you wouldn't apply mundane aspects to a personal chart anyways, you would have to analyze how the north nodes are operating in a natal chart individually. your astrology thesis makes no sense, or would you apply a mundane aspect to your own chart without individualizing it?
there is currently a mars uranus hard square operating in the skies but this would affect everyone nation, every person differently depending on their own planets and zodiac. once again, there is no transiting mars on the south node aspect.

if you want to look honestly at putin's chart, he has a natal north node trine saturn -neptune which is extremely fortunate. the north node is considered the good moon node related to jupiter while the south node is the bad node considered with saturn. in our own lives, we must overcome & move beyond our south node to ascend to the dragon's head or the north node.

the aspects from astroseek regarding putin's north node.

North Node Trine Saturn
Natal Birth Chart Aspect Meaning​


The positive thing about this aspect is that these people are focused on overcoming challenges in their life. They are consistent, aware of their responsibilities, and they walks tirelessly along their life path. They have high standards for themselves and they set ambitious goals. They are able to overcome their limits.


we know from putin's bio that he emerged from humble beginnings & through hard work & diplomacy, he became the head of the kgb, ascending to the president of russia. this is his destiny to make russia great again. saturn rules hard work & diligence & overcoming difficulties which putin has done, rising to the highest rank in russia & becoming a renowned & respected world leader. not in the west who want to control russia & steal her immense natural resources but are prevented from doing so by a man named vladimir putin. this is why they must demonize him, lie about him & create propaganda as the russian people are with putin & not the corrupt, depraved western alliance called nato.
 

beccaglass

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putin's exalted mercury libra conjunct saturn conjunct spica acts again to befuddle, bemuse & outplay the dimwitted nato alliances.
there is speculation that prigozhin (working with russian military & putin) accepted millions from nato (cia) to attempt a coup on russia but all the time, it was a fake insurrection. if it wasn't a fake coup, prigozhin & the wagner rebels would have been executed for treason. russia doesn't take too kindly to foreign interference in attempting to overthrow their government. instead, they are claiming that prigozhin has been sent to belarus & the other wagner soldiers are not going to be charged. putin & prigozhin must be laughing at how easily they fooled the cia into believing that the wagner chief would turn against his own homeland. he has had many fights with the russian command but they are based on strategy, the wagner group always wanted russian military to move faster but putin held back to avoid mass casualties. he allowed the people to leave the country & even set up safe passage corridors. prigozhin wanted to just smash, bomb & obilterate & not have too much concern with the innocent civilians caught in the bombings. now, however, russian command & the wagner group have reached an agreement that pleases both of them.
mars uranus did show this uprising but it was coordinated & was never a threat to russia or putin. game, set & match to the russians once again.
if prigozhin really wanted to create an uprising, he would have done more than march to moscow only to turn back before firing one shot.


Russian State Duma is working on law to regulate Wagner Group, official says​

From CNN's Mariya Knight in Atlanta

The Russian State Duma, or lower house of parliament, is working on a law to regulate the Wagner Group, according to Andrey Kartapolov, head of the Defense Committee.
There’s been considerable speculation about Wagner’s future since its chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin, launched a rebellion this weekend.
“The fate of Wagner PMC is not determined, but it is not necessary to ban it, since this is a combat-ready unit, and there are questions for its leadership, and not for the fighters," Kartapolov told the Russian business newspaper Vedomosti on Sunday.
Kartapolov’s remarks echo those of Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov, who said Saturday that an agreement had been reached on “the return of PMC Wagner to their locations.


Putin and Prigozhin share relatively humble beginnings, and the Wagner chief grew up in the tougher neighborhoods of St. Petersburg, also the president’s hometown.

The men have known each other since the 1990s. Prigozhin became a wealthy oligarch by winning lucrative catering contracts with the Kremlin, earning him the moniker “Putin’s chef.”

His apparent transformation into al warlord came in the aftermath of the 2014 Russian-backed separatist movement in the Donbas in eastern Ukraine.

Prigozhin founded Wagner as shadowy mercenary outfit that fought both in Ukraine and, increasingly, for Russian-backed causes around the world.
 

Shanti

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"may i ask what you are referring to as there's no aspect with mars and the south node. mars is currently at 21 leo and south node is at 1 scorpio. no aspect. and you wouldn't apply mundane aspects to a personal chart anyways, you would have to analyze how the north nodes are operating in a natal chart individually. your astrology thesis makes no sense, or would you apply a mundane aspect to your own chart without individualizing it?"



This thread is about Putin I suppose ?

Anyone remembering his chart and natal positions ?

Putin have his South node at 19' Leo 59'

At the resurrection by Prigozhin starting 23th june transiting Mars was at 19' Leo

In Judith Hill's book on the nodes south node mars connections is read:

"........accident prone...unlucky in war....dangers in armies......"

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