Putin: White hat or villain?

JUPITERASC

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Russia to replace "..NAZI.." regime in Ukraine :)

& turn it in a neutral state. Russia's security chief.

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Russia is right about Europe.
They could had played a big role in the coming multi-polar world.

Now that is impossible.


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"..Russia winning alone while Nato and the EU lose together".
-Chadamir Poutine 2023


Russia SEIZES BILLIONS In EU Assets :)

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US was never respectful of other nations.
They were just as bloodthirsty in the late 19th and early 20th century as they are now.
Read Smedley Butler's book "..War is a Racket.."

about the multiple but little known US interventions in Central America and the Caribbean

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david starling

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Putin is wrong about everything. He could have been a force for a peaceful, more equitable world economy, but he's too much of a brutal dictator to fulfill that role. He's definitely a villain. Hard to believe he's a Sun Libra once you get past his phony little smile.

There IS no "Nazi regime" in Ukraine. Every Libran Sun individual I've met has been a truth-teller, but Putin is a total liar, which means his lack of a conscience and his moral weakness have caused him to behave in ways not indicated by his natal chart.
 

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Putin Confirms Ukr Offensive, Big Ukr Losses

Leo2s, Bradleys Destroyed, Realists Call Peace Talks :)

4 million dollar Leopard 2 tanks destroyed by $5,000 dollar Lancets.
Quite the bang for the buck


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Russia CONQUERS $12.4 TRILLION In Ukrainian Assets

it was nothing to do with the interests of Ukraine
& all about NATO using Ukraine to weaken Russia.

Upshot - Ukraine is wrecked
NATO & EU greatly weakened
& Russia stronger than ever. Good job!


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agree with Russia they don't want NATO on their border
just like the US doesn't even want anything in Cuba "..90 Miles away.." :)

500,000 Ukrainian soldiers
& 1000s of NATO mercenaries march to their end in Ukraine COUNTER OFFENSIVE.



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Shanti

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The world is watching with shock the brutal destruction of cities in the Ukraine, and wondering who is next on Putin's list of places to conquer.
At the same time, his troops are having difficulty making headway thanks to the force of Ukranian patriots zealously defending their country.
We would expect to see some really brutal aspects in Putin's chart, likened to a serial killer!
So we have a stellium in libra, the sign of peace and justice! Sun/saturn/mercury/neptune!
What is that all about?
Libra mercury is sextile a sporting mars in sagittarius, not exactly a war sign either.
Pluto in Leo on the midheaven, the leader and generous father!
Do we have the correct birth data for this man??
The one red flag in the chart is an unaspected moon.
This man's emotions have nothing to ground them, they are completely detached from him.
Moon in airy gemini is by nature detached, but in this case it is very much detached!
Don't miss out on the Declinations.
Putin have a very special pattern in his declinations involving his Moon and Mars giving a unique
mindset which I will not interpret in a political way. Everyone may draw their own pet astrolical conclusion.
Positive or negative. I don't care :)

Putins moon is OOB
Putins Mars is OOB
Moon C// Mars
Mars is on Galactic Center.

Moon and Mars is contraparallel (read like an opposition) Both are Out-of-Bounds (unleashed, unique, uncontrolled)
This give a mars and moon on steroids, acting in a very out of the box way.

Everyone may have their own understanding about this "peaceful man".
 

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Shanti

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Latest news about the destructive evil force of Putin.
The destruction of the national art treasure.
For me as a lover of art. This is just one inch of the level of destruction that is going on.
And people here seems to be cheering on.
Feeding on youtube fantasies and parellel universes.
It's a shame ! Sorry to say, but
I'm pissed....:mad:(n)

Putins moon is OOB
Putins Mars is OOB
Moon C// Mars
Mars is on Galactic Center.
Moon and Mars is contraparallel (read like an opposition) Both are Out-of-Bounds (unleashed, unique, uncontrolled)
This give a mars and moon on steroids, acting in a very out of the box way.
 
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A majority of people globally are supporting Russia’s side in relation to its conflict with Ukraine
- while US influence in the international arena is declining :)
said veteran journalist Seymour Hersh
Anyone reading that NY Times article modifying the definition of '..success..'
would be wise to notice
how it admits that Russia holds the ZNPP :)

undoing their previous narrative that the Russians were shelling it last summer.

- Ukraine is wrecked

NATO & EU greatly weakened
& Russia stronger than ever.


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david starling

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Latest news about the destructive evil force of Putin.
The destruction of the national art treasure.
For me as a lover of art. This is just one inch of the level of destruction that is going on.
And people here seems to be cheering on.
Feeding on youtube fantasies and parellel universes.
It's a shame ! Sorry to say, but
I'm pissed....:mad:(n)

Putins moon is OOB
Putins Mars is OOB
Moon C// Mars
Mars is on Galactic Center.
Moon and Mars is contraparallel (read like an opposition) Both are Out-of-Bounds (unleashed, unique, uncontrolled)
This give a mars and moon on steroids, acting in a very out of the box way.

There's also his unusual Mars in Sagittarius trine his chart dispositor, Pluto in Leo. Fire outweighs his Libra Air.
 

beccaglass

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davidstarling posted
There IS no "Nazi regime" in Ukraine. Every Libran Sun individual I've met has been a truth-teller, but Putin is a total liar, which means his lack of a conscience and his moral weakness have caused him to behave in ways not indicated by his natal chart.

if that's true, then why did the us congress designate the ukraine government as a terrorist organization equivalent to isis in 2016?
they passed a bill to stop sending money to ukraine as it was considered a white supremacist, nazi country. where did all the nazis in the military & in the govt & in the population go?
not every libra sun is a truth-teller, everybody tells lies. but doesn't putin have a mercury in perfect with the most fortunate star spica? that would enable him to negotiate very well, to seek justice & harmony & obtain fame through his speaking skills. his speeches at the united nations & other places have been watched by millions & many agree with him. he has that rare ability to lay down the facts & let people decide what is the truth. his mercury in close contact with both saturn & neptune, what a visionary he must be, tempered with saturn caution. as i understand the situation, putin tried for years to negotiate with nato to avoid conflict but they refused to act in good faith. they broke the minsk agreement & that's when putin should have invaded ukraine. he waited too long & over 14,000 russians were killed fighting for their freedom from the ukraine nazis.
if he had more aries & less libra, he wouldn't have hesitated; aries would have marched in to defend the russian peoples. libra can be too indecisive, weighing the pros & cons too long. finally, though, the people are getting the help they need with the russian military protecting them.
libra does want to avoid war but in this case, putin has complete justification to go into ukraine. arcturus features with his mercury too,

another fortunate star. if only nato had done the right thing & stopped moving eastwards, russian military would never had moved in.


Population


Most of the 3.6 million people living in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions speak Russian, a result of a migration of Russian workers to the regions after World War II, during the Soviet era. Moscow has in recent years issued more than 720,000 Russian passports to roughly one-fifth of the region's population, according to The Associated Press.

Rebel control

Pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions took over government buildings in 2014 and proclaimed the regions as independent "people's republics." The move followed Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

Fighting

Since 2014, more than 14,000 people have been killed in fighting in the Donbas region between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces.
 
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beccaglass

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shantii posted
Latest news about the destructive evil force of Putin.

what about the thousands of people who have been killed in this war? surely they count more than pieces of art? nobody knows the exact numbers but it's thousands, both in the ukraine, russian military & the general population. it could have all been avoided if nato had stepped up to the plate to negotiate with putin instead of ignoring him & moving further east towards the russian borders. russia has the sovereign right to protect their borders from the encroachment of the enemy which is the entire western world. they've been trying to destroy russia since ww11 ended
putin's chart is remarkable in its strength through negotiations but he can't negotiate with an organization that only wants to see russia's demise & refuses to compromise. putin's exception mercury - neptune - saturn - spica - arcuturus libra has enabled him to bring in at least 22 countries for trade & commerce. brics now has control over the world's resources & the western world is left standing with empty oil fields & empty buckets for trading.

what is really evil & destructive is the bombing of the nordstream pipeline which is the worst oceanic disaster in history. or don't the

sea mammals & the pollution count? that was done by the united states military. the damage will take years to repair.
& now they have also provided the hardware for ukraine to blow up the dam. what will be the result of this? a nuclear meltdown since the waters can no longer cool the nuclear plant? it's another total ecological disaster & much more important that art.



Ecological consequences of dam collapse in southern Ukraine will be generational, experts say

The destruction of the Kakhovka Dam was a fast-moving disaster that is swiftly evolving into a long-term environmental catastrophe affecting drinking water, food supplies and ecosystems reaching into the Black Sea.

The short-term dangers can be seen from outer space — tens of thousands of parcels of land flooded, and more to come. Experts say the long-term consequences will be generational.

For every flooded home and farm, there are fields upon fields of newly planted grains, fruits and vegetables whose irrigation canals are drying up. Thousands of fish were left gasping on mud flats. Fledgling water birds lost their nests and their food sources. Countless trees and plants were drowned.
 

david starling

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davidstarling posted
There IS no "Nazi regime" in Ukraine. Every Libran Sun individual I've met has been a truth-teller, but Putin is a total liar, which means his lack of a conscience and his moral weakness have caused him to behave in ways not indicated by his natal chart.

if that's true, then why did the us congress designate the ukraine government as a terrorist organization equivalent to isis in 2016?
they passed a bill to stop sending money to ukraine as it was considered a white supremacist, nazi country. where did all the nazis in the military & in the govt & in the population go?
not every libra sun is a truth-teller, everybody tells lies. but doesn't putin have a mercury in perfect with the most fortunate star spica? that would enable him to negotiate very well, to seek justice & harmony & obtain fame through his speaking skills. his speeches at the united nations & other places have been watched by millions & many agree with him. he has that rare ability to lay down the facts & let people decide what is the truth. his mercury in close contact with both saturn & neptune, what a visionary he must be, tempered with saturn caution. as i understand the situation, putin tried for years to negotiate with nato to avoid conflict but they refused to act in good faith. they broke the minsk agreement & that's when putin should have invaded ukraine. he waited too long & over 14,000 russians were killed fighting for their freedom from the ukraine nazis.
if he had more aries & less libra, he wouldn't have hesitated; aries would have marched in to defend the russian peoples. libra can be too indecisive, weighing the pros & cons too long. finally, though, the people are getting the help they need with the russian military protecting them.
libra does want to avoid war but in this case, putin has complete justification to go into ukraine. arcturus features with his mercury too,
another fortunate star. if only nato had done the right thing & stopped moving eastwards, russian military would never had moved in.


Population

Most of the 3.6 million people living in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions speak Russian, a result of a migration of Russian workers to the regions after World War II, during the Soviet era. Moscow has in recent years issued more than 720,000 Russian passports to roughly one-fifth of the region's population, according to The Associated Press.

Rebel control

Pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions took over government buildings in 2014 and proclaimed the regions as independent "people's republics." The move followed Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

Fighting

Since 2014, more than 14,000 people have been killed in fighting in the Donbas region between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces.

Putin unilaterally stole Crimea before he fomented and supported the civil war in SOVEREIGN Ukraine. He had no more right to do that than the U.S. had to bomb Czechoslovakia or invade Iraq. His claim that Ukraine had lost its Sovereignty was entirely bogus.

His lack of morality is accompanied by the Mars-Pluto trine which gives him a "might makes right" attitude and war as his only "negotiating" tool.
 
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beccaglass

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the dishonest media have been lying about ukraine since victoria nuland orchestrated a coup with president obama's approval. united states is the worst terrorist organization in the world. mercury - pluto opposition, pluto in 2nd house, all their invasions involve large scale bombings of civilian populations then raiding the countries cupboards to steal whatever they can whether it be oil, colbalt, lithium, gold, cash, you name it, they will take it. this is what is known as the military industrial complex which we were warned about decades ago.

Eight Years Ago: US-NATO Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine​


 
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beccaglass

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shantii posted
I'm pissed....:mad:(n)

i'm sure the half a million people killed in the illegal wars in iraq & afghanistan are pissed too (but they are dead now)
i'm sure the millions who have been displaced & pushed out of their own countries are pissed too.

mars is ruled by anger. time to rise up against the military industrial complex & stop the illegal invasions. time to set the people free.

pluto in aquarius is a time that benefits the people. let's hope these wars can end when people demand it.
 

david starling

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the dishonest media have been lying about ukraine since victoria nuland orchestrated a coup with president obama's approval. united states is the worst terrorist organization in the world. mercury - pluto opposition, pluto in 2nd house, all their invasions involve large scale bombings of civilian populations then raiding the countries cupboards to steal whatever they can whether it be oil, colbalt, lithium, gold, cash, you name it, they will take it. this is what is known as the military industrial complex which we were warned about decades ago.

Eight Years Ago: US-NATO Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine​




THAT'S FALSE, LIKE MOST OF THE PUTINGANDA SPEWING OUT OVER THE INTERNET.

Putin's narcissistic power-lust is aided and abetted by his Saturn in Libra. Any lie will do, as long as he gets what he wants by force of arms.
 
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Shanti

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The claim that Ukraine did destroy their own country or dam is ridiculous.
I leave this thread. The spam is sickening.

It's amazing that people see Putin as a visionary when he is a successful lier (spica on mercury neptune).
Literary the lie as an "art form".

The july 2021 publication of his essay of Ukraine as a noncountry was when the new moon was on his 9th house
uranus. progressed uranus was perfectly square saturn in 12th house. This was the start of the unrealistic dream of
the new Russian empire.

Transiting Neptune was perfect quincunx to his natal mercury.

Unrealistic thinking. Which was also evident with the fatal miscalculation of this war.
The result is that more of NATO is bordering Russia, and the country is in chaos.
Having caused also global crises in economy.

After the long period of Covid and lockdowns global crises.... what should we do that would improve the
global conditions ? - Yes we start a war ! Excellent...that is exactly what we need now after Covid.:)

btw Zelensky is a jew with ancestors died in nazi concentration camps.
 

JUPITERASC

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davidstarling posted
There IS no "Nazi regime" in Ukraine. Every Libran Sun individual I've met has been a truth-teller, but Putin is a total liar, which means his lack of a conscience and his moral weakness have caused him to behave in ways not indicated by his natal chart.

if that's true, then why did the us congress designate the ukraine government as a terrorist organization equivalent to isis in 2016?
they passed a bill to stop sending money to ukraine as it was considered a white supremacist, nazi country. where did all the nazis in the military & in the govt & in the population go?

not every libra sun is a truth-teller, everybody tells lies.
but doesn't putin have a mercury in perfect
with the most fortunate star spica?

that would enable him to negotiate very well, to seek justice & harmony & obtain fame through his speaking skills. his speeches at the united nations & other places have been watched by millions & many agree with him.

he has that rare ability to lay down the facts & let people decide what is the truth. his mercury in close contact with both saturn & neptune, what a visionary he must be, tempered with saturn caution.

as i understand the situation, putin tried for years to negotiate with nato to avoid conflict but they refused to act in good faith. they broke the minsk agreement & that's when putin should have invaded ukraine. he waited too long & over 14,000 russians were killed fighting for their freedom from the ukraine nazis.
if he had more aries & less libra, he wouldn't have hesitated; aries would have marched in to defend the russian peoples. libra can be too indecisive, weighing the pros & cons too long. finally, though, the people are getting the help they need with the russian military protecting them.
libra does want to avoid war but in this case, putin has complete justification to go into ukraine. arcturus features with his mercury too,

another fortunate star. if only nato had done the right thing & stopped moving eastwards, russian military would never had moved in.

Population

Most of the 3.6 million people living in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions speak Russian, a result of a migration of Russian workers to the regions after World War II, during the Soviet era. Moscow has in recent years issued more than 720,000 Russian passports to roughly one-fifth of the region's population, according to The Associated Press.

Rebel control

Pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions took over government buildings in 2014 and proclaimed the regions as independent "people's republics." The move followed Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

Fighting

Since 2014, more than 14,000 people have been killed in fighting in the Donbas region between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces.

the dishonest media have been lying about ukraine since victoria nuland orchestrated a coup with president obama's approval. united states is the worst terrorist organization in the world. mercury - pluto opposition, pluto in 2nd house, all their invasions involve large scale bombings of civilian populations then raiding the countries cupboards to steal whatever they can whether it be oil, colbalt, lithium, gold, cash, you name it, they will take it. this is what is known as the military industrial complex which we were warned about decades ago.


Eight Years Ago: US-NATO Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine​




The massive losses in men and equipment has Zelensky confused
as to whether he should call the failure an offensive.
But it is!!!
A failure!!

NATO & EU greatly weakened

& Russia stronger than ever.


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JUPITERASC

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shantii posted
I'm pissed....:mad:(n)

i'm sure the half a million people killed in the illegal wars in iraq & afghanistan are pissed too (but they are dead now) i'm sure the millions who have been displaced & pushed out of their own countries are pissed too.

mars is ruled by anger. time to rise up against the military industrial complex & stop the illegal invasions. time to set the people free. pluto in aquarius is a time that benefits the people. let's hope these wars can end when people demand it.



Russia DEFLECTS Kamikaze Drone Attack On Ship :)

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Russia Responds to NATO's Air Drill Dare

Displays Firepower in Sea of Japan

The temperatures in the air & the sea are high
amid the Russia-NATO faceoff. :)

After NATO's air drill dare, the Russian Navy roared into the sea to deter its "..enemies.."
Russia's Pacific Fleet displayed its firepower with over 60 warships & support vessels.
35 naval aviation aircraft
& more than 11,000 military personnel were also part of the drills.

Reactive depth bombs were used to strike the area where the simulated submarine was located.

The video of mega drills in the Sea of Japan and the Sea of Okhotsk was released
by the Russian Defence Ministry.

Russian drills in the Sea of Japan took place as Tokyo joined NATO at '..Air Defender 23..'

Russia's reaction to the NATO drill in the Sea of Japan has current as well as historical reasons

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beccaglass

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How can Zelensky, man with Jewish blood running through his veins, support neo-Nazis and put mass murders like Bandera up on pedestals? - Putin

once again, putin's words are right on target, other comments he gave yesterday regarding protecting the people in the donbass region went down really well with the majority who support russia. putin really has a way with words and it's all thanks to the fixed stars

Fixed star Spica conjunct Mercury (0°00′) and Neptune (2°00′): Spica is the most fortunate star used in astrology. It gives success, renown, riches, honors, fame, a sweet disposition, love of art and science, unscrupulousness, unfruitfulness, and injustice to innocence. It also gives androgynous, spiritual, and religious qualities, with above-average psychic awareness.

Fixed star Arcturus conjunct Mercury (0°23′) and Neptune (2°23′): Arcturus gives riches, honors, high renown, self-determination, and prosperity by navigation and voyages.

This star has a reputation for achieving justice through power. It, therefore, makes the native belligerent and quarrelsome. An enterprising spirit is the rule here. Lasting success is promised if further good aspects are present




The Russian Defense Ministry (MoD) says its troops have captured NATO-supplied armor in the Zaporizhia region, some of which appear to have been hastily abandoned by fleeing Ukrainian soldiers.

The MoD released footage of Russian troops inspecting a German-made Leopard 2 main battle tank and US-produced Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, which are said to be still intact, some with engines still running. The Russian military declared that the Western-supplied heavy armored vehicles are "our trophies". WATCH the official Russian military footage below:


 
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