Putin: White hat or villain?

JUPITERASC

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We saw the effectiveness of Kyiv's air defenses when they rapidly fired 30 Patriot missiles
in random directions & didn't hit a thing - no flashes in the sky :)
After having this Patriot system destroyed :)
it's highly unlikely their air defenses have suddenly become even more effective
- doubt they can hit anything much.

Russia’s massive overnight attack on Kyiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv.

Missiles from bombers, S-300/400


PUTIN TROPICAL WHOLE SIGN TRANSITS - :jupiter:JUPITER SQUARES:northnode: :southnode:NODES :)
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JUPITERASC

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US has nukes deployed in UK, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Netherland, Romania & Turkey.
Russia has the absolute right to place nukes in other countries too :)
If US deploys nukes in Finland then Russian nukes will appear in Cuba, Venezuela & Nicaragua.
Russia needs to spread its nukes to Syria and other countries.

every country deserves the right to protect their country and population
The US puts it's nukes in Poland, Germany, Netherlands, UK and Romania.
So Russia is fully entitled to put their nukes in Belarus, Cuba, Mexico, Venezualia and Serbia.
Iran has entered the chat
Afghanistan is listening
Washington being hoist with it's own petard.

checkmate

PUTIN TROPICAL WHOLE SIGN TRANSITS - :jupiter:JUPITER SQUARES:northnode: :southnode:NODES :)

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The strong suit of the US is not all out war, but regime change
& nukes are useless in that respect.
However, there is increased block forming, obviously
and increased actual war.
So inclined to think countries will increasingly want those nukes.


So which are viable candidates?
Well, Kazakstan
Maybe indeed Cuba, or Mexico, which will have the Americans indeed sh*t their pants.
Not that it makes a whole lot of difference for Russia,
because they have their subs with nuclear payload in front of the US coast :)
but it puts pressure on the US
& their policy of waging war all over the place will significantly decrease.

But how about Iran? Thats quite the game changer.
And even more so, how about Serbia? If Serbia takes this deal, NATO is finished there.

Which means Kosovo is finished and will come back to Serbia.
Outsiders can then not get involved (NATO), bc they WILL get nuked.
That will sure have them worried!
And with Serbia secure in the middle of Europe, what will Hungary do?

Turkey! There are a lot of turks in western Europe.
google quickly "..turkey elections.." and read Erdogan claims victory!

Way to go to stick it to the globalist evils Turkey! Congratulations! Your smartest move ever!

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JUPITERASC

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This is how Russia welcomes West's F-16s :)

Blows up Ukrainian airfields with high-precision missiles

Hypersonic shovels doing its job
Things learned from this war. Shovels and dishwasher chips are ultimate war time weapons

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JUPITERASC

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These drone strikes in Moscow proves the point
NATO right on Russian border in Ukraine is too close to be acceptable :)

Drones target Moscow. NATO Kosovo crisis

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JUPITERASC

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discussing the attack on Russia's Belgorod region
by a band of Russian neo-Nazis opposed to the government in Moscow
& how the extremist raiding party
showed up with US weapons & Ukrainian government support :)

Neo-Nazis attack Russia with US weapons

They serve US interests. Just as the '..real..' Nazis served US interests at the end of WW2.
Why so many were allowed to escape to South American countries

is a '..closed book..' as far as the US was concerned.


PUTIN TROPICAL WHOLE SIGN TRANSITS - :jupiter:JUPITER SQUARES:northnode: :southnode:NODES :)
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Let's be real here: Russia deserves a ton of props for not taking the bait
no matter how much the US, NATO & Ukraine are pushing for WW3.
Is there a far right terrorist group that the US won't find and arm?




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JUPITERASC

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The United States stating its aim
to destroy the economy of Russia

while at the same time
the US Congress
is grappling with what social programs to cut in order to not default on the US debt.
Utter Madness

Cutting social spending while increasing military spending :)

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Russia has defeated NATO in Bakhmut.
The Ukrainian army was decimated

Russia has gained every single day.
- taking more land & eradicating more weapons, resources, & men.

Ukraine have not been able to defend a single shred of their own land,
even with the vast amount of money

& weapons & intelligence donated
So

how is Ukraine going to conduct some “..greatest counteroffensive.. “?
when Ukraine has lost all their men, resources, cash, weapons
defending land which they failed to defend a single shred of,
but
now have a big offensive. To do what? Take little pieces of it back?

It’s clown Zelensky world - makes zero sense


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JUPITERASC

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Russia destroys Ukrainian airfields & jets

with long-range precision missiles attack.

Shot down UK Storm Shadow missiles & US HIMARS rockets
Several anti-air were launched, none intercepted a target :)
and the system was hit by several big explosions.
One of the Patriot was seen veering off course and coming down in the area

just like it had been known to do in Saudi Arabia
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thought Russia was out of missiles?
And that their missiles were going to be destroyed by the Patriot system?
And that the Spring Offensive had started?
And that the NAZIs were winning?
And that Bakhmut was important - then not important - then important again.

And now Bakhmut - I mean Artemovsk is no longer important and never was???
Shovels and Washing machines - Long-range precision shovels




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david starling

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So why would Ukraine evacuate and withdraw, given that we are told they are winning!


Venus in early tropical Leo is nearly at exact opposition to r.Pluto in early Aquarius. Doesn't seem to be going well for Putin, with his Asc. and Venus in Scorpio ruled by Pluto in Leo.
 
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JUPITERASC

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So why would Ukraine evacuate and withdraw, given that we are told they are winning!
Why does West think that Russia will want to negotiate
if Ukraine takes some territory? Maybe Russia will just want to take some territory back
before negotiations, just like Ukraine

Summer offensive starts, kind of :)

Belgium wants answers. Macron master of lies. Poland Protest.




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ElenaJ

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Elena, if you don't mind saying, why ignore this news article, and "like" the other one? :unsure:

It's not a surprise that the current Venus/Pluto transits are giving Putin a setback, in light of his natal chart placements.
Actually, I didn't see it! When the window opened it skipped over and went to the last post. Thanks for pointing it out.
 

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a brief Front Line Update of areas like Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Zaporizhzhia, Maryinka, Kherson
We discuss changes made to the front line
and analyse the current situation with a neutral approach.
We also discuss many events and provide brief report and give brief military summary for that event.

Ukrainian Counteroffensive Not Going As Expected

Russia Recaptures Lost Position :)

Total AFU losses in South Donetsk direction were over 1,500 Ukrainian servicemen
28 tanks, including FRG-manufactured 8 Leopard tanks, three French-manufactured AMX-10 wheeled tanks

and 109 armoured fighting vehicles

PUTIN TROPICAL WHOLE SIGN TRANSITS - :jupiter:JUPITER SQUARES:northnode: :southnode:NODES :)

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ElenaJ

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a brief Front Line Update of areas like Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Zaporizhzhia, Maryinka, Kherson
We discuss changes made to the front line
and analyse the current situation with a neutral approach.
We also discuss many events and provide brief report and give brief military summary for that event.


Ukrainian Counteroffensive Not Going As Expected

Russia Recaptures Lost Position :)

Total AFU losses in South Donetsk direction were over 1,500 Ukrainian servicemen
28 tanks, including FRG-manufactured 8 Leopard tanks, three French-manufactured AMX-10 wheeled tanks

and 109 armoured fighting vehicles

PUTIN TROPICAL WHOLE SIGN TRANSITS - :jupiter:JUPITER SQUARES:northnode: :southnode:NODES :)

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Zelensky's progressed chart with current transits.
Progressed sun receives a conjunction from transiting Neptune and will trine progressed mars.
Transiting mars closing in on square to progressed Uranus.
Transiting Uranus opposing progressed uranus.

Zelensky's progressed mars in cancer squares Putin's libra stellium. He's making the Russian leader very very mad indeed!



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david starling

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Putin blew a fuse while Venus in tropical Leo (Fire) was in opposition to r.Pluto in Aquarius (Water-bearer) and blew a dam vital to Ukrainian agriculture and civilian water supply. Putin's chart has both Asc and Venus in Scorpio ruled by Pluto in Leo trine Mars in Sagittarius.
 

david starling

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Ukrainians blew up the dam. It is Russian territory and flooded towns are populated with ethnic Russians. So, you are looking at the wrong chart. Hope they will hang Zelensky for this, when this is over.

It benefits Putin, not Ukraine. Of COURSE he's blaming Ukraine. What else would you expect?

This will prevent Ukraine from launching an offensive in areas Russia now occupies. Smart move as a war tactic. Putin cares nothing about the devastation, or about any loss of lives. His chart shows it, coupled with his obvious lack of ethics or a conscience. With Mars trine his chart's ruler, war is his modus operandi.
 
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david starling

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Is this another one of those fairy tales, like Russians destroyed their own Nord Stream pipeline??
What offensive? Offensive is over.

During the three days of combat operations in all directions Ukraine lost up to 3,715 men, 52 tanks and 207 armored combat vehicles, 134 trucks, 48 field artillery guns, as well as five aircraft, two helicopters and 53 drones.

https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/202...attempt-failed-russian-defense-ministry-said/


It benefits Ukrainians because they want to buy time for US/NATO to officially enter the war. Otherwise, they could just surrender today. They are over, finished, kaput.

Good reality check for both of us, something definite--the much publicized and still awaited Ukraine offensive. It's something we can "wait and see" about.

With Pluto's retrograding back into Capricorn a week from now, and the vital importance of Pluto in Putin's chart for this thread, it could be a correlative learning experience.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Ukrainians blew up the dam.


the dam was in bad shape
due the attempt on the part of some, to destroy the dam earlier in this conflict
so, perhaps deterioration is a partial explanation for this tragedy.


6 June 02:46 am, filming in TPN-1TOD of the moment of water spill through
the destroyed Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station
For 7 seconds, an explosion, but it looks more like a mine
or an 82 mm projectile that has arrived.

KAKHOVSKAYA 6 June 02:46am SATURN IN 12TH

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However, as Raul Ilargi Meijer writes, twice last year (here and here)
Ukrainian officials discussed Kiev's plans to blow up the dam.
Kiev's Long-Term "..Last Resort.." Plan To Blow-Up The Kakhova Dam Exposed

a report from the Washington Post (WaPo) in late December
extends credence to the Kremlin’s version of events

Titled “..Inside the Ukrainian counteroffensive that shocked Putin and reshaped the war”,
its journalists quoted former commander of November’s Kherson Counteroffensive

Major General Andrey Kovalchuk who shockingly admitted to planning this war crime:

“Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher
on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised

enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages. The test was a success, Kovalchuk said,
but the step remained a last resort. He held off
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ZH: This clip purports to show the "test" firing last year described by WaPo
Footage of the strike on the Nova Kahrkovska dam last year
when the Ukrainians tested the resistance of the flooding gates

with American Himars missiles as stated by the article of the Washington Post.
His remark about how “the step remained a last resort” is pertinent to recall at present
considering that the first phase of Kiev’s NATObacked counteroffensive completely failed on Monday
according to the Russian Ministry of Defence .
Just like Ukraine launched its proxy invasion of Russia in late May
to distract from its loss in the Battle of Artyomovsk,
so too might does it seem to have gone through with Kovalchuk’s planned war crime to distract from

this most recent embarrassment as well.

The abovementioned explanation isn’t as far-fetched as some might initially think either.
After all, one of complexity theory’s precepts is that initial conditions at the onset of non-linear processes

can disproportionately shape the outcome.
In this context, the first failed phase of Kiev’s counteroffensive risked ruining the entire campaign,

which could have prompted its planners to employ Kovalchuk’s “..last resort..”
in order to introduce an unexpected variable into the equation that might improve their odds

It is Russian territory and flooded towns are populated with ethnic Russians.
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david starling

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Putin is wrong about everything. He could have been a force for a peaceful, more equitable world economy, but he's too much of a brutal dictator to fulfill that role. He's definitely a villain. Hard to believe he's a Sun Libra once you get past his phony little smile.
 
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