Putin: White hat or villain?

david starling

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Hmmm....A blood-drenched White hat would really be a Red hat. That's in line with Putin having been a KGB agent associated with the "Red Army" of the USSR, which he would greatly prefer had never disbanded.

Also, his Mars in Sagittarius is a powerful placement for the "Red planet".
 
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leomoon

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https://www.bing.com/search?q=Carl+...-32&sk=&cvid=4AA9F4FB03794C499D3344F231BF330C


Here are some ideas of Mandalas drawn by Carl Jung, the late Psychiatrist who also practiced Astrology. I can't recall where I found this one, but it shows the 4 "big Asteroids",the term used for the ones belonging to the Moon & Venus. i.e. Vesta, Pallas Athena, Ceres & Juno. Usually, they are kept on default whereever ones has their usual natal charts they draw up.



With Putin's chart- I noticed his Pallas-Athena (which is the way we look at someone we look up to oftentimes a man looks up to another man he'd like to mimic or be like. Especially in the military or as a young boy, someone they'd admire as an adult. The military general in WW2General Patton for example, said he looked up to a Confederate friend of his family who used to visit his father and his family when Patton was a kid, by the name of John Mosby. Mosby was what we'd call someone who could work for either side, not really bound so much by allegiance to once side or the other as most were in those days. I happened to research him to write a book on Regulus and the Generals when Mosby came up, with General Patton.


General Patton was a child then, and used to sit and listen to Mosby regale the family with his fascinating tales retold as how he fooled the others side, that is the Union Generals and the Union soldiers as he worked for the Confederacy then. Many of the "tricks" he used, when Patton became a soldiers in WW 2 he said he used then himself and patterned himself after this man. I mention this story, because this is how I see Pallas Athena, much like this story of General Patton and how he saw John Mosby.


The many exploits of John Mosby:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Mosby


Vladimir Putin has his Pallas - Athena at 27 degrees Pisces which was conjunct fixed star Scheat when he was born. Scheat is usually connected with sadness or some type of heartache ....It isn't a fixed star we associate with happiness or luck -



Here is an example of Scheat with a few planets:


Putin has only one Ptolemaic aspect with Pallas-Athena, and that is a square with MARS: (which is very intriguing) because Mars is militaristic, and Pallas-Athena, was in mythology, the goddess of the Roman military (thanks to her having been Jupiter's daughter born of his head)



I'm thinking that Putin's War will not bring him the acclaim he so badly wanted, but the total opposite in history and before. After all, if we look at the Mandala that Jung created for Venus with the 4 "big ones" Vesta-(Pallas-Athena) Ceres & Juno) His Pallas- square Mars does not bode well with Scheat imo. nor with Moon-Venus connections



With a malefic and the moon with Sirius (29 Leo), death by fiery cutting weapons or by beasts. If the Moon be with Vega (14 Capricorn), violent death. [Robson, p.206.]
With Sun: Danger through water and engines, liable to accidents or drowning. [Robson, p.206.]
With Moon: Worry, loss and gain of friends through criticism, danger of accidents and by water. [Robson, p.206.]
With Mercury: Many accidents and narrow escapes especially by water, many enemies, trouble through writings, bad for health and domestic affairs. [Robson, p.206.]
With Venus: Evil environment, suffering through own acts, danger of imprisonment or restraint. [Robson, p.207.]
With Mars: Many accidents, sickness to native and relatives. [Robson, p.207.]
 
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leomoon

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Premier of Russia, Nikita Kruschev during 1959 when General then President Eisenhower was the President of the United States followed by JFK -


https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Khruschev,_Nikita



Remembering Krushchev, because of the "Little Man mentality" as I refer to the psychological one often carried by men of small stature needing to make up for that stature in one way or another (hopefully in good ways like Robert Reich with his Trine to Mercury from his Sun) He was 5 feet 3 inches - and because he was rotund, seemed even shorter then that next to the tall Ike and JFK.



With Krushchev? His Mars was 12 Aquarius and was Semi-Square his Mercury 28 Pisces (cj. Scheat) This suggests that his Mercury did not work in his favor when he gave speeches -



In the USA, those of us over a certain age, who were around with JFK in particular was our young President elected in 1960 - , recall Kruschev being reported as saying about the USA, "We will bury you" - :surprised: This was during the so called "Cold War between Russia and the US post WW2 and around the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis -





“WE WILL BURY YOU”
The line “we will bury you” as a threat to Polish diplomats was widely attributed to Khrushchev by the “Western press”, according to a document approved for release in 2002 by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency ( here ).
The document notes that Khrushchev was quoted making the following remarks at a final reception for the Polish politician, Władysław Gomułka, in November 1956:

“If you don’t like us, don’t accept our invitations and don’t invite us to come see you. Whether you like it or not history is on our side. We will bury you.”
Over the years, Khrushchev issued a number of explanations attempting to clarify his statements. One such instance occurred while speaking to the National Press Club in Washington on September 16, 1959: “I have already said that the words ‘We will bury capitalism’ should not be taken literally, as is done by ordinary gravediggers who carry a spade and dig graves and bury the dead. What I had in mind was the outlook for the development of human society. Socialism will inevitably succeed capitalism.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-khrushchev-1959-quote-idUSKBN22N25D
 
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leomoon

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Before finishing with my memory of Krushchev, I wanted to recall for you the shoe banging incident. I don't think Mr. Kruchev was anywhere near as dangerous to society as Mr. Putin, because Krushchev was all talk and no action - Putin is the opposite, he is all quiet all those years, easy (they said) to talk with and get along with, and then surprises people with that quiet snake-like charm and attacks.



With Krushchev, you get what you see and hear - no real surprises from him. Mostly bluster -



As his family recalled when he came to New York to the United Nations with the famous "shoe banging incident" and took off his soft (looks like a tennis shoe without ties) and banged it on the table, then threw it) it was never retrieved that day !:pouty:




Khrushchev's granddaughter Nina L. Khrushcheva writes that, after years of embarrassed silence, her family explained their recollection of the event. According to Nina, Khrushchev was wearing new and tight shoes, so he took them off while sitting. He started pounding the table with his fist during his angry response, and his watch fell off. When he was picking it up, his discarded shoes caught his eye and he took the opportunity to pick one up and pound the desk with it. She also mentions that many versions of the incident have been in circulation, with various dates and occasions.[28]



Nina's account is very similar to that of Khrushchev's long-time interpreter Viktor Sukhodrev, who sat with him during the event and reported that his boss pounded on his delegate-desk so hard that his watch stopped, which only infuriated him further and prompted the switch to the shoe.[4] :w00t:



Sergei Khrushchev (Nikita's son) stated that he could not find any photo or video evidence of the incident. Both NBC and CBC ran a search in their archives but were unable to find a tape of the event.[4]
In Sergei's opinion, it would be very unlikely that Nikita Khrushchev intentionally removed his shoe.



There was little space under the desk, and the Soviet leader, being somewhat overweight, could not reach his feet. :biggrin:



This specific issue was addressed in 2002 by a former UN staffer, who said that Khrushchev could not have spontaneously removed his shoe at his desk but had previously lost it after a journalist stepped on it. The UN staffer then retrieved the shoe, wrapped it in a napkin, and passed it back to Khrushchev, who was unable to put it back on and had to leave it on the floor next to his desk; the same staffer also confirmed that she saw him later bang the shoe on the desk, thus lending credence to the reports by Nina Khrushcheva and Viktor Sukhodrev.[4][29]





According to German journalist Walter Henkels, a shoe producer in Pirmasens said he had seen a picture of the shoe in a newspaper and recognized it as being from his production. The Federal Ministry of Economics explained that West Germany had sent 30,000 pairs of shoes to the Soviet Union. Among them were 2,000 pairs of good low shoes, and one of them might have found its way to Khrushchev.


Here is a photo of him with the shoe in hand:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-banging_incident#See_also





His MARS is in 12 Aquarius, square the MC (the public place - and square Uranus (whey we saw so many public blowups....not often scheduled if at all. Usually turning his face red -



His Mars was also trine Saturn and semi-sextile Venus, Quintile the Sun. He didn't seem to mind to retired either and let the next come come in



He seemed colorful to me, as a younger woman, but not too dangerous, more like a over the top grandpa who was about to have a heart attack at any minute. I do think JFK however, was quite worried with the Cuban Missile Crisis and to ok them and him very seriously.
 

blackbery

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The thread has turned into a 'babble-fest' full of opinions but lacking any real astrology or historical facts.:andy::andy::andy:

I'll leave the Putin-haters to it; it makes them happy to spew hate & lies in lock-step with the legacy media. Don't you know that Tucker Carlson is now a 'Putin puppet' because he dares to criticize the NATO/US policy in Ukraine & believes Putin has every right to protect the Russian borders.
& every world leader who opposes the NWO & supports Putin is puppet too.
They are in 'league' with the devil Putin, all under his control, after all he has the asteroid lucifer :conjunct::sun:!:lol::lol::lol:

Astrology has been bastardized, truth murdered & :neptune::pisces: propaganda spread like the kind of deadly virus that Russian troops eliminated in the biolabs.

The :saturn: cold reality is that Putin had no other choice but to engage in military intevention (& not invasion or he could have flattened Ukraiine in a week if they did carpet bombing like the US does which kills tens of thousands of innocent lives which Putin has deliberately avoided in this conflict).
His mission is basically complete; he has de-activated the biolabs & has got the evidence of what went on there (anthrax, etc) & who funded t hem.
He's almost destroyed the Ukranian military who have surrended rather than die for their puppet Zelensky.
The Azov Batalllion nazis funded & supported by the west will not allow peace to reign, they murder civilians who want to leave, shoot any soldier who wants to desert & destroys buildings & then turns around to blame Russia.
They are true monsters, no different than Hitler's SS guards. In fact, many are grandchildren of the original nazis.:unsure:




Top General Douglas McGregor Has Advice For Zelensky


https://rumble.com/vyzhhi-top-general-douglas-mcgregor-has-advice-for-zelensky.html


:saturn::conjunct::northnode::aquarius: in Putin's chart was the marker when the military intervention began. A destined beginning.
It has now almost concluded with Putin's goals won. :northnode: transiting Putin's :jupiter::taurus::sextile::uranus:.
Moon nodes very important in world events & in a person's chart.
 

ElenaJ

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Repeating my request, no people-labelling, please.
We're all working together exchanging knowledge to gain insight and arrive at conclusions.


"Saturn/NN in Putin's chart was the marker when the military intervention began. A destined beginning.
It has now almost concluded with Putin's goals won. NN transiting Putin's Jupiter sextile Uranus .
Moon nodes very important in world events & in a person's chart."

Has anyone been able to find a chart for the beginning of the invasion?
It happened early morning on Feb 24th, but I can't find an accurate time for it.


Transiting uranus is approaching conjunction with Putin's natal Jupiter, sextile his natal Uranus.


Pluto entering Aquarius will conjunct Zelensky's sun/venus conjunction.
Transiting saturn opposes his natal Saturn.

Biden keeps sending millions over to Ukraine.
I keep wondering how that works on a practical level.
Do they stash it in the hold of a plane, like Obama did for Iran?
Or do they use a debit card?
Just wondering.
 

leomoon

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I see the evil version of Lucifer as various combinations of Saturn, Venus, Mars, and Pluto.

This can lead those in power to commit evil acts, believing that they're serving God, and behaving righteously.

For example, when the Inquisition was burning women at the stake, it was to "save" them from burning in the fires of H€ll.


It's ironic, it was the U.S. who first dropped the Atomic Bomb in Japan to stop the Japanese from furthering their attempt to WW2 -



Unless you grew up in the 1950s the schools taught us about "Duck & Cover" in which we all had this part of the cirriculum each day and had the "school drill" for years during the Cold War with Russia. As I "vaguely recall now", it was around noontime 7 days a week, even when we were not in school, so we heard it at home and were supposed to be disciplined enough to "duck and cover", under our kitchen or dining room tables, etc.



You can see how serious the children were - and we were in those days none of us joked or took it lightly - that I can recall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3BWfxM_NM&t=27s






Examples, given by the Govt. of the USA: :w00t: Children grew up rather frightened to death and part of our childhood was stolen from us in this way, we could not be carefree kids then.

Pluto sextile Neptune generation and Uranus trine Neptune for some of us. Many of us, Pluto in Leo generation.


There is no question, we may have then been seen as too overbearing and stern with our children, handicapped by this type of upbringing partially by our own govt with daily drills not that I think about it. My parents never talked about it, they tended in those days to let the schools take care of us that way.








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3BWfxM_NM&t=27s
 

ElenaJ

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"When Saturn is approaching the North Node the person will begin to sense that something is about to change and more often than not, it's a feeling that "something positive is about to happen". This is usually a time of recognition in one's work and professional life, this is if the person is working toward a goal and has built a foundation on which they can build. The person generally feels pressure to make something happen.

They may evaluate all they have done and all of their talents, what they enjoy and how to put it all together. Saturn is the builder of solid structures and although he is tough he makes accomplishments possible through our own efforts and hard work....Even if you are the 'shyest of them all' and crave no- "worldly success" (for the case of the North Node in the 4th house this would fit just fine) for worldly success was likely already accomplished) but otherwise wherever your North Node may lie, you will need to use your talents, gifts and experience from your South Node to move towards your North Node....Saturn shows you all that you are lacking, he makes you focused, he chills the air it's cool, calm and you can focus, there is clarity! You're ready to take the leap, you're not afraid. You will do it. With the help of Saturn you will be able to make things happen even if it's slow progress it's steady and it's focused. "
https://illumeastrology.blogspot.com/2017/11/transiting-saturn-conjunct-north-node.html

"he's become mentally unbalanced."
Do you have evidence of this?
Please don't just say he invaded the Ukraine, because he had reasons for doing this, which he explained, very coherently.
 

leomoon

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I recall writing then on my forum page "News and Astrology", of that Event with the chart, but don't know now which page it is on and cannot find the time to invest for it. I do however have a chart for that day, just not the background or context although it can still be found if someone wanted to look for it (February 24th):


Has anyone been able to find a chart for the beginning of the invasion?
It happened early morning on Feb 24th, but I can't find an accurate time for it.



I do recall saying I thought it would be long and drawn out because his plans were 'hidden" (12th house) and note that his Juno position is located here as well - (the stalker?) being projected at Ukraine? or Zelenskyy? Would be great if we had a Junigian Astrologer here - to help us....with this one.



 
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blackbery

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The real ‘collusion’ was the creation of ‘RussiaGate’ out of absolutely nothing.:unsure:

Killary hired a bunch of shady operatives to put together a collection of lies & innuendo about Trump & shop it to the FBI. It was the ultimate political dirty trick, one that was aided and abetted by the media long after Trump took office.

Igor Danchenko, the guy who supposedly gathered all the spurious “dirt” in the infamous Steele dossier, is accused of lying at least five times to investigators, special counsel John Durham alleges. Those lies were to cover up the fact that he really had no sources for his claims — or, in some cases, the sources were Clinton associates.

How’s that for a vicious circle? Clinton officials feed their Russian stooge disinformation, it gets laundered through British spy Christopher Steele, and the FBI uses it as the basis for wiretapping the future president’s team.


Talk about :neptune::pisces: propaganda & lies all uncovered by John Durham.
:whistling::whistling::whistling:

Danchenko trial later this year, Killary lawyer Sussman trial in May. FISA warrants under further investigation with Clinesmith pleading guilty 1st to avoid prison time. :whistling::whistling::whistling:
DNC/Killary already paid $120,000 for their misinformation campaign against Trump, Durham putting out indictments sealing the fate of the criminals.
Grand Jury testimony (sealed) against leading Demonrats such as Obama, Piglosi & others will lead to their arrest & possible execution (treason is a crime punishable by the death penalty).

They thought they would never get caught because DNC 'owned' the CIA/FBI/DOJ top officials. But many in the lower ranks ratted them all out, couldn't bear to see the country destroyed by Communists & puppets of the NWO. Even poor Seth Rich turned on them & downloaded the Files from DNC to give to WL. They murdered him for that.:crying::crying::crying:

:pluto::capricorn: has totally wiped out the top criminal cabal leaders & they are co-operating with Durham to avoid the death penalty. Putin had nothing to do with the 2020 election, even the NY Toilet Times & WAPO admit it was all a big conspiracy by the DNC.
Yet, the lunatic left tiny minority still scream out 'Russiagate'. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:They don't want to give up on their greatest hoax ever or return the Pulitizers which they obtained with deceit & sheer propaganda.


Evil thrives — unless we fight it

The toxic :pluto: swamp is being drained. Both in the west with Nationalist leaders & in the east with Putin. Thank God there are more good people in this world than bad or else the :pluto: monsters would have dominated the entire world forever.

Putin's :sun::mercury::saturn::neptune::libra: work in great harmony between cold, hard logic & insightful, intuitive ideas of how the world really works.





Elena, [deleted attacking comments - Moderator], but what I've written about Putin's efforts to destabilize other countries is common knowledge among people who keep up with global politics from a centrist position. People on the American hard right are basically Russian assets-- they do Vladimir Putin's propaganda work for him, for free. This is true of hard right politicians globally, like Marine Le Pen's pledge to pull France out of NATO.

One example:

The Muller Report concluded that Russian operatives did try to swing the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump, notably by feeding Wikileaks the Clinton and DNC emails. (However, it also backed Trump's point that he did not personally collude with them.)

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david starling

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"When Saturn is approaching the North Node the person will begin to sense that something is about to change and more often than not, it's a feeling that "something positive is about to happen". This is usually a time of recognition in one's work and professional life, this is if the person is working toward a goal and has built a foundation on which they can build. The person generally feels pressure to make something happen.

They may evaluate all they have done and all of their talents, what they enjoy and how to put it all together. Saturn is the builder of solid structures and although he is tough he makes accomplishments possible through our own efforts and hard work....Even if you are the 'shyest of them all' and crave no- "worldly success" (for the case of the North Node in the 4th house this would fit just fine) for worldly success was likely already accomplished) but otherwise wherever your North Node may lie, you will need to use your talents, gifts and experience from your South Node to move towards your North Node....Saturn shows you all that you are lacking, he makes you focused, he chills the air it's cool, calm and you can focus, there is clarity! You're ready to take the leap, you're not afraid. You will do it. With the help of Saturn you will be able to make things happen even if it's slow progress it's steady and it's focused. "
https://illumeastrology.blogspot.com/2017/11/transiting-saturn-conjunct-north-node.html

"he's become mentally unbalanced."
Do you have evidence of this?
Please don't just say he invaded the Ukraine, because he had reasons for doing this, which he explained, very coherently.


I have to align with the Traditionalistic view of Saturn as the Greater Malefic. The book "Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil", by Liz Greene, first published in 1976, appears to be the only reason for the Modernistic view that Saturn is the "wise teacher". Threatening nuclear war in regard to a regional conflict is INSANE, like the ancient myths say Saturn became due to his fear of losing power and authority.

None of Putin's "reasons" explain attacking Kiev and destroying Mariupal. That included killing many of his own people. And, his reasons aren't necessarily valid to begin with, unless you completely believe his own, completely nonobjective supporters. One of his supporters, the VERY influential Patriarchal head of the Russian Orthodox Church in Russia, where Putin attends services, came right out and said it was to defend Russia against Western immorality, especially its tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality as a lifestyle. That embarrassed those of his supporters who claim it's strictly to prevent the Ukraine from joining NATO, to destroy unproven and debunked U.S. "bioweapons labs", and to root out an infestation of Nazis, who weren't even part of the Ukraine parliament.

Or, you can blame it all on Hunter Biden's laptop and Hillary's emails. I'm blaming it on especially extreme Saturnian influence on Putin's natal chart.
 

leomoon

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Astrotheme puts the time at 4:55am.

And this link compares the chart to that of the beginning of WWII!

https://oxfordastrologer.com/2022/02/the-invasion-of-ukraine.html


Sounds to me like a time change thing - between the time in London and that of Ukraine...(adding one hour?) to GMT



I'm not sure, I'd keep checking to be certain.


Seems to me it was a reporter on CNN who was there reporting live and they showed the time on the TV there :unsure:
But if you feel comfortable with the source, then use it.....esp. if the planets look right to you (the ASC) & MC
 

ElenaJ

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Here is the 4:55 chart.

I've left out some asteroids, just for legibility of the chart.
Inserting Pallas, Bellona, Algorab.

This chart makes a lot of sense, with Bellona of war exactly on the ascendent.
Algorab opposing Part of Fortune.
Moon separating from the square to sun (intercepted in the 7th) and approaching a square to Jupiter on the 2nd cusp.

Pluto squares the Nodes.

Venus and mars about to conjunct, significators of the MH and IC.
The aggressor, Saturn in Aquarius intercepted in the 1st house, trine Algorab.

Moon in sagittarius is not a sign usually associated with aggression.
 

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ElenaJ

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Sounds to me like a time change thing - between the time in London and that of Ukraine...(adding one hour?) to GMT



I'm not sure, I'd keep checking to be certain.


Seems to me it was a reporter on CNN who was there reporting live and they showed the time on the TV there :unsure:
But if you feel comfortable with the source, then use it.....esp. if the planets look right to you (the ASC) & MC

My memory was of an even earlier time, but 4.55 seems to be the officially accepted one. The chart does fit an aggression.
I'll see if something else comes up on the internet for a different time.
PS. Between the UK and Ukraine there are 2 hours difference.
 

leomoon

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Moon conjunct "Royal Persian Star Antares - (Anti-Ares) Star of WAR)

Very agressive
If I were his Astrologer I would have told him bad timing, (the MC near 21 Scorpio), portends a "definite Loss" for this war. It may be quite literal actually
I always go with the "literal". one way or the other.
The timing is awful for a war or whatever he thought he might accomplish by it. I say it will be a loss for him in the end.


The MC is the public
 
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ElenaJ

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A bit disappointing that the link doesn't post any charts, just descriptions and analysis.


This one sentence about Putin's chart made me laugh...

“Wait. Vladimir Putin has his sun in Libra? Isn’t that the sign of diplomacy, cooperation, benevolence, fairness, peace, and harmony?” I know, I know."

Have you heard that anywhere here before??

They also mention May 15th lunar eclipse that will effect the charts of Russia and Ukraine.
Unfortunately, since there are no charts, not sure what they used for the Russian Federation.
 

blackbery

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Very interesting article published in 2015 & now re-published & very appropriate for explaining Putin's chart along with his actual messages & quotes & actions as opposed to the legacy media :neptune::pisces: fairy tales & outright lies they put out there. Truth always wins over propaganda in the end.

Putin's :conjunct::neptune::saturn::conjunct::mercury: & he always speaks with authority & with clarity. He means what he says & says what he means.


VLADIMIR PUTIN: THE NEW WORLD ORDER WORSHIPS SATAN


During the Cold War, the US & the West argued that the Soviet Union was a “godless nation.” Last year, Vladimir Putin took that pendulum, swung it on the other direction, and landed it on west.
“In the new war of beliefs, it is Russia that is on God’s side. The West is Gomorrah.” Putin said:

“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.


With Putin ordering the Russian military to enter Ukraine to destroy the biolabs, destroy the Ukranian nazis & destroy the NWO, he is acting on his very strong & strategic :mars::trine::pluto::leo: placement which fires up his principles to act upon them. Remember, he defended Syria against the godless terrorists & he defended Kazakhstan against a US coup/NWO.

Putin here was trying to “put the fear of God in the New World Order.” & the
:saturn::pluto:establishment in the West is afraid of Putin because he is not afraid to call them out.
Putin is fighting the NWO. “That is why the Western propaganda machine is going crazy when it comes to Russia & Putin. He doesn't go along with their satanic, evil agenda.
:jupiter::taurus: traditional values :sextile::uranus: & he will rebel to maintain core values.
“Putin is stopping New World Order ‘creative destruction’ in Ukraine. He is part of a growing coalition opposing the NWO – not just religious traditionalists, but also progressive anti-globalization forces such as India, Brazil, South Africa, Serbia, Iran & others. They cannot steamroll over Putin & that's what makes the NWO react with such extreme nefarious plots against him.

With Zelensky's astrology showing decline & loss, just a matter of time before the entire truth comes out about the decay & corruption in Ukraine.




https://pravoslavie.ru/88285.html?fbclid=IwAR0-qDAN4xJv_wpldhdx3f4L9KL9KwCr2N-h-KAUFlG3fYdykjNBEOi
 
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