Proof Aquarius is ruled by uranus AND Saturn?

david starling

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Allegories aside:

Domicile-ruler.......Number of Domicile-signs

•Moon.............................1 :)cancer:)
•Sun...............................1 :)leo:)
•Merc..............................2 :)gemini:&:virgo:)
•Venus............................2 :)taurus:&:libra:)
•Mars..............................1 :)aries:)
•Jup................................1 :)sagittarius:)
•Sat................................1 :)capricorn:)
•Uran..............................1 :)aquarius:)
•Nep................................1 :)pisces:)
•Plu.................................1 :)scorpio:)

In Mod, these are ALL "full-fledged" Sign-rulers , each with sole Sign-rulership(s). There's no need to assign two different Domicile-rulers to any one Domicile-sign.
 
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david starling

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Before the telescopic identification of Uran as a planet, rather than a faint star, and discovery of Nep and Plu, all 3 outside the orbit of Sat, the Moon and Sun, which transit only Direct, were Domiciled in one Sign each; whereas, the planets, which transit both Direct and Retro, were each Domiciled in 2 Signs.

As each new planet was identified, one Sign was taken from the last previously-known planet that still ruled 2 Signs, and given as Domicile to the new planet:

In standard Mod, the Signs are numbered 1 thru 12, beginning with Aries.
Sat was domiciled in both Signs 10 & 11. The higher-numbered Sign was taken from Sat and given as domicile to Uran.

Next, with Jup still domiciled in both Signs 9 & 12, the higher-numbered Sign went to Nep.

And, finally, with Mars still domiciled in both Signs 1 & 8, the higher-numbered Sign went to Plu.

That leaves the 2 innermost planets, which stay close to the Sun's transiting postion, and appear as separate Morning and Evening planets, to keep their 2 Domicile-signs each as was previously the case.
 
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petosiris

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From the distant Past. The Cronos/Saturn myth is allegorical, based on an intuitive understanding of the incompatibility of Saturn with the high Heavens. It's an inimical relationship, which is continued with Saturn/Satan as the enemy of Heaven in Roman/Catholic writings. The Greco-Roman prefix, Ouran/Uran means "of the Heavens". The Muse of astrology, for example, was the goddess of the Heavens,
"Ourania/Urania".

Saturn separates us from the Higher realms.

David, the Greeks and the Romans weren't modern day hippies, but the majority of them were fundamentalist believers in their mythology and idolatry. Atheism was a crime recorded many times punished by death. :smile:

You didn't really answer how can a human being come up with such a story. The key for me personally is the biblical account of Noah's sons, Bavel and the existence of intelligent supernatural beings (not to be confused with aliens).
 
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david starling

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David, the Greeks and the Romans weren't modern day hippies, but the majority of them were fundamentalist believers in their mythology and idolatry. Atheism was a crime recorded many times punished by death. :smile:

You didn't really answer how can a human being come up with such a story.

The Romans, far more so than Greeks, did, in fact, think in more allegorical terms about their gods and goddesses. Punishing atheists sounds more like a Christian practice.

The human imagination is a wondrous sense by which to ascertain the nature of our mortal existence.
 

petosiris

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The Romans, far more so than Greeks, did, in fact, think in more allegorical terms about their gods and goddesses. Punishing atheists sounds more like a Christian practice.

The human imagination is a wondrous sense by which to ascertain the nature of our mortal existence.

There are tens of thousands of recorded cases of Christians being martyred everywhere in the Roman Empire for refusing to bring sacrifices to idols, the Diocletianic Persecution perhaps being the worst. Gentile Christians like Jews were labeled atheists, but did not enjoy the tolerance admitted to the later on account of their antiquity and political relationship.

There were Gentiles who knew the Word of God even without Judaism, and died for him, the most famous example being Socrates who was trialled on the charge that he was introducing new divinities, namely the Logos in opposition to the Athenian pantheon. The Athenian polis wasn't Christian.

How can a God being castrated by his own son be a wondrous sense of ascertaining the nature of our mortal existence? :unsure: Why do you bring these outlandish ancient religious beliefs into a modern astrological discussion on whether Aquarius is ruled by one or two planets in the solar system?
 

Opal

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There are tens of thousands of recorded cases of Christians being martyred everywhere in the Roman Empire for refusing to bring sacrifices to idols, the Diocletianic Persecution perhaps being the worst. Gentile Christians like Jews were labeled atheists, but did not enjoy the tolerance admitted to the later on account of their antiquity and political relationship.

There were Gentiles who knew the Word of God even without Judaism, and died for him, the most famous example being Socrates who was trialled on the charge that he was introducing new divinities, namely the Logos in opposition to the Athenian pantheon. The Athenian polis wasn't Christian.

How can a God being castrated by his own son be a wondrous sense of ascertaining the nature of our mortal existence? :unsure: Why do you bring these outlandish ancient religious beliefs into a modern astrological discussion on whether Aquarius is ruled by one or two planets in the solar system?

How did you miss learning mythology in school?

Myth, is wrongly named. It is knowledge that was put in story form, to enable humans to learn it, word of mouth, through the ages.

Over the many ages we have gone through, repeatedly, we use try to pass knowledge from past ages. Astrological knowledge. The knowledge of the Cosmos. The knowledge of God. The knowledge of the ages.

Do you see God as Uranus, for in myth it is Uranus whom is castrated by Saturn, his son. Earth/ Gaia is Saturn's mother.

Maybe you should expand your reading, having no knowledge of the past ages, through mythology, has you believing in a myth, of the age of Pisces.

Christians, have killed many people too. They are not innocent, or meek. Nor shall they inherit the earth.

The Ages will tick through, regardless, and, in time, the Age of Pisces will return, but, it will not be for a very long time.

Happy reading, myth is very interesting, and tangible to my mind.
 

david starling

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How did you miss learning mythology in school?

Myth, is wrongly named. It is knowledge that was put in story form, to enable humans to learn it, word of mouth, through the ages.

Over the many ages we have gone through, repeatedly, we use try to pass knowledge from past ages. Astrological knowledge. The knowledge of the Cosmos. The knowledge of God. The knowledge of the ages.

Do you see God as Uranus, for in myth it is Uranus whom is castrated by Saturn, his son. Earth/ Gaia is Saturn's mother.

Maybe you should expand your reading, having no knowledge of the past ages, through mythology, has you believing in a myth, of the age of Pisces.

Christians, have killed many people too. They are not innocent, or meek. Nor shall they inherit the earth.

The Ages will tick through, regardless, and, in time, the Age of Pisces will return, but, it will not be for a very long time.

Happy reading, myth is very interesting, and tangible to my mind.

In India, where Vedic sidereal astrology is most widely practiced, there is evidence of what should be expected from an astrological Age of Pisces.

The West doesn't reflect the sidereal Age of Pisces. For one thing, Western civilization as we know it is far too materialistic, antagonistic, and ambitious.

No real surprise that the Western, tropical Zodiac doesn't even have an age of Pisces. If you want an Age of Pisces, you have to switch from tropical to sidereal.
 
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Opal

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In India, where Vedic sidereal astrology is most widely practiced, there is evidence of what should be expected from an astrological Age of Pisces.

The West doesn't reflect the sidereal Age of Pisces. For one thing, Western civilization as we know it is far too materialistic, antagonistic, and ambitious.

No real surprise that the Western, tropical Zodiac doesn't even have an age of Pisces. If you want an Age of Pisces, you have to switch from tropical to sidereal.

Very true.
 

petosiris

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How did you miss learning mythology in school?

Myth, is wrongly named. It is knowledge that was put in story form, to enable humans to learn it, word of mouth, through the ages.

You didn't learn mythology by word of mouth, if you received it in school, you received it by a written word - Homer, Hesiod etc.

Over the many ages we have gone through, repeatedly, we use try to pass knowledge from past ages. Astrological knowledge. The knowledge of the Cosmos. The knowledge of God. The knowledge of the ages.

Secular history tells us that there were no civilizations five ages ago. History starts less than 10000 years ago and is more like an arrow than a cycle. The rest we are told is prehistory.

Do you see God as Uranus, for in myth it is Uranus whom is castrated by Saturn, his son. Earth/ Gaia is Saturn's mother.

(I am using capital letters freely as the Bible was written in majuscule, whether it refers to the one true God, a son of God sometimes called God or a false God.)

No, I see Noah as a son of God misidentified as a different God after the incident of Bavel. His son Ham did a wicked thing by seeing his father's nakedness, for which he and his sons were cursed by Noah. Some interpret this as castration, but the words are an euphemism for a sexual act. He also constituted child sacrifice as can be seen from the practices of the Canaanites, Phoenicians (the Greeks received the account of him eating his own children), Aztecs, Incas, Mayas and some nations in Africa to this day. Nevertheless, his descendants deified him. Many ancient authors straightly tell us that people deified mortal men, and there is such an account of Kronos by Philo of Byblos. (We see similar cults of personalities even in modern times in so-called atheist countries. Stalin murdered millions of people, yet people wrote hymns to him and had his image appear everywhere.)

Maybe you should expand your reading, having no knowledge of the past ages, through mythology, has you believing in a myth, of the age of Pisces.

This age is given to Satan - 2 Cor. 4:4. True Christians are not of this world, as Jesus Christ isn't - John 17:16.

Christians, have killed many people too. They are not innocent, or meek. Nor shall they inherit the earth.

We shall see.

The Ages will tick through, regardless, and, in time, the Age of Pisces will return, but, it will not be for a very long time.

Happy reading, myth is very interesting, and tangible to my mind.

See the second paragraph above.
 
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Opal

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You didn't learn mythology by word of mouth, if you received it in school, you received it by a written word - Homer, Hesiod etc.



Secular history tells us that there were no civilizations five ages ago. History starts less than 10000 years ago and is more like an arrow than a cycle. The rest we are told is prehistory.



(I am using capital letters freely as the Bible was written in majuscule, whether it refers to the one true God, a son of God sometimes called God or a false God.)

No, I see Noah as a son of God misidentified as a different God after the incident of Bavel. His son Ham did a wicked thing by seeing his father's nakedness, for which he and his sons were cursed by Noah. Some interpret this as castration, but the words are an euphemism for a sexual act. He also constituted child sacrifice as can be seen from the practices of the Canaanites, Phoenicians (the Greeks received the account of him eating his own children), Aztecs, Incas, Mayas and some nations in Africa to this day. Nevertheless, his descendants deified him. Many ancient authors straightly tell us that people deified mortal men, and there is such an account of Kronos by Philo of Byblos. (We see similar cults of personalities even in modern times in so-called atheist countries. Stalin murdered millions of people, yet people wrote hymns to him and had his image appear everywhere.)



This age is given to Satan - 2 Cor. 4:4. True Christians are not of this world, as Jesus Christ isn't - John 17:16.



We shall see.



See the second paragraph above.

I really prefer my books, to your age old interpretations.
 
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