Progressed Venus in hard aspects to Pluto

HoldOrFold

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My Progressed Venus is teetering on the last degree of Aries and will enter Taurus within a Month.

I have natal Pluto at 1 degree of Scorpio, so my progressed Venus will be opposing Pluto for the next few years.

Has anyone gone through progressed Venus conjunct / square or opposite Pluto, and if so what were your experiences during that time?
 

jkxx74

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Yes, although for me it was transit Pluto square natal and then some years later progressed Venus.

The textbook description is a situation unfolding that almost seems to threaten your (emotional) survival and it is generated by people in your life represented by Venus so friends and significant others. Generally something happens which forces you to to re-evaluate yourself in terms of your relationships or even have to start over completely. Love triangles are possible and secret relationships of significant others also tend to come to light at this time and you can expect to get very, very jealous if you are involved with anyone.

Since you will be getting the opposition rather than a square you can expect some sort of power struggle between yourself and a loved one or more generally to have someone powerful strongly affect your values and finances. Certainly be very careful about any people who come into your life at this time as they can very well be after your money or some other possession of yours. Even if this scenario doesn't transpire there will be a generally unbalanced situation involving your relationships where values clash with power and/or you become acutely aware of the power of your values.
Watch for obsessive people (stalkers come to mind) as they can be inordinately attracted to you at this time.

I have not heard of very positive expressions of this combination but maybe there have been some and someone can chime in.
 

Kannon

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My Progressed Venus is teetering on the last degree of Aries and will enter Taurus within a Month.

I have natal Pluto at 1 degree of Scorpio, so my progressed Venus will be opposing Pluto for the next few years.

Only if your progressed Venus slows way down as it comes to station/Rx as it nears culmination with Pluto. Progressed aspects are only active when within just minutes of arc from exact (0°00-05')

Has anyone gone through progressed Venus conjunct / square or opposite Pluto, and if so what were your experiences during that time?

Yes, I went through prog Venus square natal Pluto in the last couple months of 1991 and first couple weeks of 1992. I was in my early 20s and still living with my parents. Had some conflicts with them over personal privacy, and at the end of the (05' orb) aspect I found out my best friend's mother had died. During prog Venus' culminating square to prog Pluto, which happened the previous summer I moved back in with my parents after living on my own working in another town. This re-entry with them was stressful, particularly as my mother used it as an opportunity to reassert control and dominance, which set up the stresses to come later.

Hard progressed aspects of Venus/Pluto can bring out underlying matters of control/dominance in close relationships, especially with women. Often one person plays Venus to the other person's Pluto/dominator role. The key is to be assertive in such a way to re-balance the dynamic in which both parties can get respect as adults rather than remain in a people-pleasing posture or an unnecessarily subordinate position.
 

HoldOrFold

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Ok, this should be interesting. Good to know at least the duration will be less than I had originally thought.

Kannon, what house is your Pluto located in and what cusp is Scorpio on (in the reolcated chart if you had moved during this transit)?

My Pluto is in the 11th house, it should be interesting how this plays out. I'll update this thread with my experience for the sake of science after it's over, incase anyone searches for this as I did.
 

katydid

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My Progressed Venus is teetering on the last degree of Aries and will enter Taurus within a Month.

I have natal Pluto at 1 degree of Scorpio, so my progressed Venus will be opposing Pluto for the next few years.

Has anyone gone through progressed Venus conjunct / square or opposite Pluto, and if so what were your experiences during that time?

I'd want to know what houses they are in and which ones they rule, to get more specific.

But the Progressed Venus leaving Fire and entering Earth is a shift in consciousness just by itself. Then adding the Pluto opposition @ 1 Scorpio,----that is pretty MAGICKAL, and deep and metaphysical.

Venus @1Taurus opposing Pluto @ 1 Scorpio is metaphysical gold. :alien:

It is Amazing and Cosmic in it's Purity and Perfection---- yet it skirts dangerous territory because it is so Powerful and one might feel entitled or tempted to test fate?:devil:


This next few weeks is a good time to assess yourself--look realistically at what your deepest desires are and what you are willing to do to attain them.

Look closely and introspectively at your feelings towards your lover and your closest most intimate relations. Are they working for you and them?

Are you needs being met? Are you fulfilling theirs?

It is the perfect time to try and make these assessments NOW because in the next few months there might be a whirlwind of emotions/change/upheaval that comes at you. Or from within you...:sideways:

Trying to get a realistic handle on it now can help you stay calm and reasoned, even though your feeling turbulence and chaotic feelings...


Sometimes when Venus progresses to an opposition with Pluto or Uranus, there is a traumatic emotional shift that rears it's head.

Perhaps One's spouse comes out of the blue with devastating news or demands. Or one's own inner feelings change/shift dramatically and one may not feel invested in their marriage or partnership anymore---inexplicably at times.

Sometimes one's inner desires/needs radically shift. One no longer wants to be the owner of their successful company. Or no longer wants to pursue their life long dream. It can be very unsettling.

Again, the houses and rulerships will describe more closely which areas of life it will entail. [ Although Venus/Taurus==Pluto/Scorpio seems to indicate strains and stresses in love life and creative expression of artistic talents/gifts]
 

katydid

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I just saw your post saying that your Pluto is in the 11th, so your Pr.Venus will be in your 5th.

The 5th/11th has always been kind of a conundrum to me. What does that axis really represent? The keywords just do not do it for me. 50 years of studying Astrology and I cannot really explain what the 5th/11 truly mean...:wink:


Maybe you will be able to tell us after your profound experiences with the Venus/Pluto epiphanies?


You might alter your desires and goals tremendously over the next year or two?

Your friendship circle may have a tremendous shift. Maybe even an implosion at first. :devil:

Your decisions/plans about raising or not raising children may be revisited or modified...your urges and needs and beliefs about what you need to be 'happy' may shift tremendously.
 

HoldOrFold

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I just saw your post saying that your Pluto is in the 11th, so your Pr.Venus will be in your 5th.

The 5th/11th has always been kind of a conundrum to me. What does that axis really represent? The keywords just do not do it for me. 50 years of studying Astrology and I cannot really explain what the 5th/11 truly mean...:wink:


Maybe you will be able to tell us after your profound experiences with the Venus/Pluto epiphanies?


You might alter your desires and goals tremendously over the next year or two?

Your friendship circle may have a tremendous shift. Maybe even an implosion at first. :devil:

Your decisions/plans about raising or not raising children may be revisited or modified...your urges and needs and beliefs about what you need to be 'happy' may shift tremendously.

Thanks for that info, it sounds like it could get pretty intense. Venus has now progressed into Taurus and I swear can already a feel a subtle difference.

Progressed Venus is at 0'00 Taurus actually in the progressed 4th house (or natal 5th) opposing progressed Pluto at 0'26 Scorpio in the 10th ruler of the progressed 11th. Natal Pluto is at 1'21 Scorpio in the 11th ruler of 1st.

I haven't followed my progressions that much so far so I'm still determining what the different effects are for aspects of progressed planets to other progressed planets vs to natal planets.
 

retrograder

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So, I have progressed venus conjunct natal pluto right now and transiting pluto trine natal venus (though I'm not sure if that's exact right now).

Natal pluto is in scorpio in my 10th house (end of 10th house, one degree before the 11th) that is the ruler of my 11th and 12th house.
Natal venus is at the end of the virgo sign in my 9th house and rules my 5th, 6th and 10th house - I dunno what venus even does at an anoretic degree - I don't seem to understand much in the romantic field and I was way too shy to explore anything in these realms.

I started a new job in january this year and one of my bosses was constantly staring at my ****, even when I had the interview for the job. He was odd and I thought him to be very insecure and thus unattractive. He was constantly observing me during work and ordered the other colleagues to do the same. At one point it seemed he instructed them to not talk to me anymore and to not be friendly towards me. I know this situation already, as I was bullied out of a retail job before, because the female elders didn't seem to want me there - they even went as far as to send detectives to my home to stalk me. At work they would then talk about my apartment and other stuff to make me anxious and so on, they even threatened me at work - truly sick stuff that only sick people do! I mention this because it was 2021 when I left this retail job and the stalkers are still here. The teams that are observing might have changed over time, but they are still here. And I believe it is because of them, that this sick-o kind of boss thought he had some sort of power over me. But I saw through him and was absolutely sure that he is a weak individual, who cannot do anything on his own and without the position that was given to him by his friend, the owner of the company and without the tactics of my years-long-stalkers. So I mostly ignored the things he did, I rarely reacted to any of the **** and tried to do the training for the job, which was too boring for me to handle.

When I was introduced to the pr person I somehow liked him right away. He mentioned occasionaly that he had two small kids at home and I reacted openly displeased with this news (I turned my head around to put off some steam and I don't remember me doing something like that in such a situation ever before - it does happen in other situations, mostly when I try to do things right, which is quite natural to me). He noticed my reaction which I didn't see then. Things went on and I greeted him often times with a big smile on my face and he did the same and after some time I wondered if this is a sag thing (I'm sag rising) - I can be enthusiastic at times and not always does the big smile mean that I'm really interested in someone, just being happy or liking a conversation... I only had that thought because I noticed he did it too, the big smile thing, and wondered if it means anything and that maybe I misled people in the past without knowing. I mention those little observations, because I don't remember that someone else ever provoked these kind of thoughts in me before, so maybe this also is a venus-pluto thing.

I try to fast forward things now: once we met on the way to the train after work and he told me about all the things he had done in his life, his age and wanted to know my age too. I guess after that I was really interested in him, because he was interesting and we had things in common. This caused a lot of stress in my mind because of course he already has a gf whom he has kids with, but I couldn't stop having the feelings I had, which you see now, is definitely a pluto-venus-conflict. I was able to cool down a bit, when I fell ill and stayed at home for a week. His manners had changed though, the friendliness was gone, I felt his facial expression to be kind of twisted, I assume, because it wasn't what he genuinely felt. I didn't like that and thought that the attraction might come to an end now, as we didn't talk anymore anyway. He just gave me those strange twisted looks. On one afternoon, after some time, where nothing happend between us, I noticed that he told one of his female colleagues to ask me if I wanted to join them for some afterwork drinks. I declined, because I had to stay 3 more hours before I could leave. If it'd have been only an hour I probably would have decided differently. A few days after that I left this job, because I couldn't motivate myself anymore to go to this horrible place.

In the beginning of february I left that job and the rest of the month was awful for me. It sounds stupid, but it feels like loss to me. I never met a man like that before and though I was interested and attracted, I wasn't sure in the end if he would have been good for me. My mind is telling me no, this could have only been awful and nothing else and that I don't know what his intentions were though my head believed it to be only s.., which I just cannot deal with. Even last month i felt a stitch to my heart, when I laughed at sth, because the laugh reminded me of him..... ouch!





If you think the stalking part is just insane and cannot be real, I can only say, trust me, that it's the truth. Stalking is a plutonian thing and I have even more experience with it then I mentioned here. Not everyone is going to experience such a thing. But because you don't experience it, it doesn't mean that it can't happen to someone else. I'm plutonian myself and either it's because of that, that I have the pleasure of going through this (sun square pluto natally and leo sun/moon and cancer mercury in the 8th house) or it could be because of saturn in the 12th house experiencing the ill-will of others and having hidden enemies. Transiting neptune in my 3rd house isn't quite a help either and I really had some bad luck with the kind of people I encountered in life - probably even more since neptune started going through the 3rd house.



No matter how long this **** might go on, I’m going to survive it!
 
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FraterAC

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Only if your progressed Venus slows way down as it comes to station/Rx as it nears culmination with Pluto. Progressed aspects are only active when within just minutes of arc from exact (0°00-05')
Not in my experience.
By that I mean, progressed aspects, both Secondary/Major (1 day = 1 year) and Minor (1 lunar month = 1 year) are active within an orb of at least 1 degree, applying or separating. This means 2nd/Major aspects of the Sun can be active for two years or more, 2nd/Major Lunar aspects 2+ months, etc.
As to 2nd/Major aspects involving the slower planets, Jupiter for example, definite effects are felt when they perfect natal aspects, although these too last for an extended period of time. Supporting Minor progressed aspects or Transits can time specific events.
A number of factors can precipitate or delay the manifestation of progressions as well. They don't necessarily produce effects exactly when perfect.
 
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