progressed aspects becoming exact

Bina

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Looking at my progressions, i noticed 3 aspects becoming exact in February 2012. Moon conj. Mars - also closely squaring Pluto/Uranus conjunction, Venus opp. Neptune and Sun square Chiron. Feeling a bit overwhelmed as to how to interpret all this happening at once, was wondering if anyone has any ideas or experience with any of these progressed aspects? am attaching my progressed chart:smile:
 
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Looking at my progressions, i noticed 3 aspects becoming exact in February 2012. Moon conj. Mars - also closely squaring Pluto/Uranus conjunction, Venus opp. Neptune and Sun square Chiron. Feeling a bit overwhelmed as to how to interpret all this happening at once, was wondering if anyone has any ideas or experience with any of these progressed aspects? am attaching my progressed chart:smile:

progressed charts are not meant to be read as stand alones, they need to be read as a bi wheel with the natal....

progressed planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=266189&postcount=8
 

Bina

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Thanks for the link..

Do you look more at aspects from the progressed to the natal chart or at aspects progressed planets make to each other?

This is my natal chart with progressions, please have a look..
did you even read the link I posted??

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

so from that LINK for your convenience then :smile:

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream here on AW of placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple


Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

Have you been thinking about moving house? in 8months prog moon will be conj IC/home roots
In 3years time prog sun will be conj natal jupiter...


Progressed Sun conjunct Jupiter
If you're beginning to think you're the next big thing, you're probably right. At least, you're stretching your imagination to the limit and you're feeling you're well ahead of your own game. When you're sure that everyone else agrees, then make your move, as your self-assurance will take care of the rest.
http://cafeastrology.com/progressedplanetsaspects.html

When prog POF gets to IC you could inherit something. This doesn't mean someone is going to pass away. I inherited a ring from my mother when my father passed, but she is still here..

use the above link to research further proessions..

solar arcs & secondary progressions
http://www.kepler.edu/videos/0902SolarArc/Stathis_SolarArc_Feb09.pdf
 

Bina

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did you even read the link I posted??



so from that LINK for your convenience then :smile:

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream here on AW of placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple


Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

Have you been thinking about moving house? in 8months prog moon will be conj IC/home roots
In 3years time prog sun will be conj natal jupiter...


Progressed Sun conjunct Jupiter


When prog POF gets to IC you could inherit something. This doesn't mean someone is going to pass away. I inherited a ring from my mother when my father passed, but she is still here..

use the above link to research further proessions..

solar arcs & secondary progressions
http://www.kepler.edu/videos/0902SolarArc/Stathis_SolarArc_Feb09.pdf


Did read the link you posted, as well as the other links in that post:

Quote(from cafeastrology):
Some of the most significant secondary progressions:
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Progressed planet aspects: Aspects that progressed planets form to natal planets and points, as well as to other progressed planets and points.



Quote(from Aquamoonlight-astrology):
Aspects in Progressions
The aspects are interpreted just the same as in a natal chart or indeed any other chart. Minor aspects are used in progressed charts as much as the major aspects. The aspects can be between the natal and progressed chart along with transits, and between themselves within the progressed chart. The orb of aspect generally allowed for progressions is a tight 1 degree.


Do know about equal house system ..
..you mentioned about moving house, am in the middle of a complicated house moving process.. By the equal house system , progressed moon is already in the 4th house, interesting!

Thanks for your ideas!!
 
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Bina

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:innocent:This thread seems to have gone off track a bit and it got moved as well..
..and I'm still wondering about my original question about aspects in the progressions becoming exact, does anyone have any experience with this?

Either the aspect is already there in the birth chart and just turns exact at a certain time in the progressions, or sometimes new aspects are being formed between progressed planets - especially between the faster moving planets. Would really appreciate to hear about any ideas or experiences anyone has with either case.
 

Claire19

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You need to post your natal chart with progressions and transits on it. The birth chart is always the most important and the progressions have to trigger off the natal placements to have any real effect.
 

Bina

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You need to post your natal chart with progressions and transits on it. The birth chart is always the most important and the progressions have to trigger off the natal placements to have any real effect.

Ok, already posted my natal chart with progression earlier on in this thread, :smile:here it goes once more, am also attaching my natal chart with progression and transits.

Would be grateful for any ideas and insights about what's going on astrologically..
am moving home to a new city within the next week .. which feels like will bring major changes into my life..
 
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:innocent:This thread seems to have gone off track a bit and it got moved as well..
..and I'm still wondering about my original question about aspects in the progressions becoming exact, does anyone have any experience with this?

Either the aspect is already there in the birth chart and just turns exact at a certain time in the progressions, or sometimes new aspects are being formed between progressed planets - especially between the faster moving planets. Would really appreciate to hear about any ideas or experiences anyone has with either case.
It probably got moved because of forum rules state that only in RMC forum can you ask questions without any astrological input, for which you gave none!

how has it gotten off track we are still discussing progressions??
 

Kannon

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Bina,

Simultaneous progressed aspects like these are more common than you think. They occur off and on many times over your lifetime.

You can go to astro.com and once you are looking at your progressed chart from the "Extended Chart Selection" click the link right above the chart: View the additional tables (PDF) ... this will open up a pdf document that shows two aspectarians on the second page (progressed): one for progressed to progressed aspects only and the second at the bottom shows progressed to natal aspects.

You will probably notice at least a few of these aspects are very tight (under 0*10') for major events in your life.
 

Bina

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What happened when your progressed Moon and progressed Mars were last conjunct, Bina? - (March-May 1983?)

Thanks, Ben!!! Finally someone is actually getting my question!:smile:

What happened then?
Good question, long time ago.., the only similarity i can think of is that i was getting very restless at that time wanting change, was still going to school and started losing interest in studying and doing other things instead - joined Amnesty Int. and got quite involved in their campaigns..
Also then moon-mars were conj in Taurus in my natal 2nd house (values), this time the conjunction is in Gemini, natal 3rd house, there does seem to be a lot of intense communication going on at the moment..
 
kannon said
Bina,
Simultaneous progressed aspects like these are more common than you think. They occur off and on many times over your lifetime.
You can go to astro.com and once you are looking at your progressed chart from the "Extended Chart Selection" click the link right above the chart: _View the additional tables (PDF)_ ... this will open up a pdf document that shows two aspectarians on the second page (progressed): one for progressed to progressed aspects only and the second at the bottom shows progressed to natal aspects.
You will probably notice at least a few of these aspects are very tight (under 0*10') for major events in your life.


the only thing i would add to this is, keep the orbs very tight, 1' approaching 1' exact and 1' departing. The aspect grid will show ALL orbs upto whatever ratio you set it....
 
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Thanks, Ben!!! Finally someone is actually getting my question!:smile:

What happened then?
Good question, long time ago.., the only similarity i can think of is that i was getting very restless at that time wanting change, was still going to school and started losing interest in studying and doing other things instead - joined Amnesty Int. and got quite involved in their campaigns..
Also then moon-mars were conj in Taurus in my natal 2nd house (values), this time the conjunction is in Gemini, natal 3rd house, there does seem to be a lot of intense communication going on at the moment..

How exactly is this helping considering you *WERE* asking abourt current progressions and NOT past ones????:innocent:
 

Ben

Banned
Do you look more at aspects from the progressed to the natal chart or at aspects progressed planets make to each other?
In The Art of Predictive Astrology, Carol Rushman states :-

The most significant progressions are the progressed planets to natal planets....Progressed house cusps give important additional emphasis, value and insight....Progressions involving progressed planets to other progressed planets can be very powerful, but the length of influence seems to be shortened to about one year....Nothing ever happens in a person's life without a progressed-Moon aspect....One planetary influence or aspect standing alone will not produce a major event - but a combination of transits, progressions, lunations, etc all working together will produce a major event.

And (imo), we look more at aspects from the progressed to natal chart - as these produce "events" that are part of our life-long astrological lessons.

However, progressed planets to progressed planets also influence our lives - although the events produced by them tend NOT to be part of our life-long astrological lessons.

How exactly is this helping considering you *WERE* asking abourt current progressions and NOT past ones
It indicates that "restlessness" might be the theme of Bina's current Pmoon to Pmars conjunction, astrologer50.
 

Ben

Banned
4 progressed to progressed aspects will be exact in February 2012 -----Moon conj. Mars - Pluto/Uranus conjunct - Venus opp. Neptune and Sun square Chiron.
Anyone have any ideas or experience with any of these progressed aspects?
Two of these are significant "astrological learning" progressions, Bina - because they form aspects with your natal chart :-

Psun squares Nsaturn (conjunct Nvenus and sextile NN) : Pvenus opposes Nneptune -

but, the other two will be background influences to the "main event".

4 progressed to progressed aspects will be exact in February 2012 -----Moon conj. Mars - Pluto/Uranus conjunct - Venus opp. Neptune and Sun square Chiron.
Anyone have any ideas or experience with any of these progressed aspects?
Two of these are significant "astrological learning" progressions, Bina - because they form aspects with your natal chart :-

Psun squares Nsaturn (conjunct Nvenus and sextile NN) : Pvenus opposes Nneptune -

but, the other two will be background influences to the "main event".


Analysing The Background Influences

1. Ppluto/Puranus conjunction (permanently activating) Npluto/Nuranus conjunction - This is a lifelong "natal and progressed" aspect, which (I think) is not being activated by any transits in April 2012 - and (since you have been experiencing/living with it's background influence from birth, you will know better than I how to interpret it correctly, Bina.

2. Pmoon conjunct Pmars in Libra/P1st+N3rd - Natally, Nmoon is in Libra/7th (opposite Nmercury in Aries/1st) and Nmars is in Taurus/2nd (conjunct Sun, with both trine your N/P conjunction of Pluto/Uranus in Virgo/7th - indicating a feeling of restlessness, relating to all of these signs and houses - BUT (I think) not being activated by any transit in April 2012.


Analysing Psun square P+Nchiron/Nsaturn/Nvenus (all sextile NN)
Psun is in Gemini/P1st+N4th : Nsaturn-Nvenus-P+Nchiron are in Pisces/P11th+N1st : natal NN is in Taurus/P12th+N2nd - So, the resultant event will involve all of these planets/signs/houses.

Analysing Pvenus opposing P+Nneptune
Pvenus is in Taurus/P12th+N2nd : P+Nneptune is in Scorpio/P6th+N8th - So, the resultant event will also involve all of these planets/signs/houses.
 
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Looking at my progressions, i noticed 3 aspects becoming exact in February 2012. Moon conj. Mars - also closely squaring Pluto/Uranus conjunction, Venus opp. Neptune and Sun square Chiron. Feeling a bit overwhelmed as to how to interpret all this happening at once, was wondering if anyone has any ideas or experience with any of these progressed aspects? am attaching my progressed chart:smile:

prog moon will not make any aspect to natal mars.. Prog moon square pluto/uranus is valid...

Did you read the link I posted earlier??

progressed planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=266189&postcount=8

AND here if you take the time and effort you will find prog moon aspects!
http://cafeastrology.com/progressedmoonaspects.html

It indicates that "restlessness" might be the theme of Bina's current Pmoon to Pmars conjunction, astrologer50
Strange as that conj was in 2nd house, and this progress moon/mars is 3rd house of communications? so how are you making this connection?

progressed outers hardly ever move and are not 'that relevant' it's more important to focus on inner planets...
 

Ben

Banned
prog moon will not make any aspect to natal mars.. Prog moon square pluto/uranus is valid...Did you read the link I posted earlier??
Progressed Moon is conjunct Progressed Mars, astrologer50 - Did you read in my post #15 that progressions involving progressed planets to other progressed planets can be very powerful, but the length of influence seems to be shortened to about one year.?

Strange as Bina's 1983 Pmoon/Pmars conj was in 2nd house, and this progress moon/mars is 3rd house of communications? so how are you making this connection?
Both conjunctions are (also) in the progressed 1st house - However, I made this POTENTIAL connection from Bina's post #12 comment that the only similarity i can think of is that i was getting very restless at that time

progressed outers hardly ever move and are not 'that relevant' it's more important to focus on inner planets...
Since they hardly ever move, the outers usually create a "permanent progression" that lasts a lifetime - So, (imo) they should be regarded as a significant* lifetime background influence rather than as being "not relevant".

[Note* : Any transit to these permanent N/P outer planets will trigger a significant event (especially if the transitting planet is one of the natal planets involved) - since a progression AND a transit to a natal planet invariably produces an important lifetime-astrological-learning-opportunity.]
 

Bina

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How exactly is this helping considering you *WERE* asking abourt current progressions and NOT past ones????:innocent:

Strange as that conj was in 2nd house, and this progress moon/mars is 3rd house of communications? so how are you making this connection?


Astrologer50,
Ben actually responded to my question about progressed planets aspecting each other. Also his question was helpful because it gave me a "way in" , a starting point to look at all these progressed aspects.

the energy of moon-mars conj (restlessness) , as i wrote in post #12 and Ben pointed out to you, is the same both times the aspect occurs, falling into a different house in my natal chart just means it's expressing itself in a different area of my life, 2nd house- values and changes in that area of life, 3rd house- communication.
 
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Bina

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Bina,

Simultaneous progressed aspects like these are more common than you think. They occur off and on many times over your lifetime.

You can go to astro.com and once you are looking at your progressed chart from the "Extended Chart Selection" click the link right above the chart: View the additional tables (PDF) ... this will open up a pdf document that shows two aspectarians on the second page (progressed): one for progressed to progressed aspects only and the second at the bottom shows progressed to natal aspects.

You will probably notice at least a few of these aspects are very tight (under 0*10') for major events in your life.

Thanks for the info about how to get tables of aspects on astro.com, had wondered about this and did not know how to do it.
 
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