not exactly a beginner but I need your eyeball pls

suimui10

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I have a lot of activity going on my chart right now and for the next X years. [NB: I'm not a beginner so please I would appreciate feedback from more experienced chart readers.]
Could anyone please take a look and help me figure out what is going on and how to go with the flow? When do you see things settling and how do I deal in the meantime? I'm already in a very bad spot and barely hanging in there emotionally and financially. I need your help and insight. Thanks in advance.

PS: Last year Bob said I have 5 more yrs of this activity. I already have gone through Pluto sq Pluto, currently through Nept squaring my 10th house stellium, soon to go through Pluto sq Uranus and Uranus sq Uranus. I won't even touch Saturn who has been through my 8th house where I have Pluto/Uranus/Jupiter.

What I need is an eyeball; i.e. the big picture. What am I supposed to do? As things currently are, I'm in the eye of the storm so to speak and can't find a job, can't get any friends, or lovers (even family is evil). Nothing works. Do I try? You bet!! All I get is doors slammed on my face. Not one, not twice... Well, you get the idea.

Is there any light in this tunnel, any silver lining, anything good that might offer some window of respite? Where can I focus to stay grounded? I can't live like this! I mean this is hardly a life! :eek: :(

Again sorry for the dramatic tone but I am not sure whether I get across as clearly as I think I am (inside my own head apparently lol).

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suimui10

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Please? Help?
I can do a tarot reading for you in exchange if you like.
Or anything else.... just eyeball this monster for me please; I would be forever obliged! :eek:
 
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suimui10

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Mieri, thanks, I appreciate the willingness to help but you sent me the below with the subject line "synastry chart" and this is not a synastry chart. Maybe you were meant to send this to someone else?

I have something to help but please take it with a grain of salt as I am not so confident on my abilities to read charts.

I looked at something and it seems that you have some difficult transits going on right now. Things could get better along the way. Avoid investments and job changes and lie low.

Hang in there!

I don't need the offer so please keep it and I wish you all the best!

I sent you a message. Hope it helps a bit.
 
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Mieri

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Mieri, thanks, I appreciate the willingness to help but you sent me the below with the subject line "synastry chart" and this is not a synastry chart. Maybe you were meant to send this to someone else?
No, it's meant for you.
Just forget about the title, mistake of mine :wink:
 

suimui10

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No, it's meant for you.
Just forget about the title, mistake of mine :wink:

Well, OK, then I am not sure if you understood what I'm asking. As I said:

I have a lot of activity going on my chart right now and for the next X years. [NB: I'm not a beginner so please I would appreciate feedback from more experienced chart readers.]
Could anyone please take a look and help me figure out what is going on and how to go with the flow? When do you see things settling and how do I deal in the meantime? I'm already in a very bad spot and barely hanging in there emotionally and financially.

In any case, thanks again.
 

suimui10

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So we have:

-confusion (Nept sq Sun/Nept/MC)
-loss (Pl sq Pl/Ur)
-upheaval? (Ur opp Ur -- though I look forward to that!! Uranus is strong in my chart and its ruler)

Is there any rock under which I can park for the next 5yrs??
Seriously I have no clue.
It's one step forward ten backwards everyday. If at least ONE thing was going well, then I would remain optimistic, stay low, weather it. But NOTHING works!! I lost my job, career is in the pits, lost bf, lost social life, family proved a joke, lost my home and income, ...what else is there?
BTW I'm not venting! I'm asking in earnest!
I am sure some of the more experienced astrologers can offer some bird-eye-view of the chart situation and maybe even give me something to look forward to, because I really can't see anything in this darkness and fog.
 
PS: Last year Bob said I have 5 more yrs of this activity. I already have gone through Pluto sq Pluto, currently through Nept squaring my 10th house stellium, soon to go through Pluto sq Uranus and Uranus sq Uranus. I won't even touch Saturn who has been through my 8th house where I have Pluto/Uranus/Jupiter
I don't mean to sound harsh, but we ALL have to go through these transits, challenges/disappointments unfortunately. There is no shortcut, fast track ok or get out of jail card.

It's always worth posting your natal, progressions AND transits [for me at least], as this give us a much fuller picture to work with - found in Extended chart selection on astro. I reduce the orb ratio to 85%


with age, maturity and experience, life will teach you balance and this is what you must achieve within yourself. Studying astrology is a great form of psychology, but it's not going to change your life, YOU are. You are the captain of your ship and free will says it's upto you to steer your life, personality into the right direction. Doesn't matter if you foul up occasionally, we all do, the point here is to *learn* by mistakes and move......

Probably T uranus conj chiron was responsible for the loss of job/income. T Neptune has been squaring your moon, this suggests problems relating to mother/family. this should be off now

t Jupiter is now 10' taurus just gone into your 4th house/family issues and things *should* improve with this benefic there for next 12months :smile:
When T Jupiter gets to 15/16' taurus it will form an opp to venus and this could suggest socialising more. Jupiter rules your 11th house of friendships and is currently transiting 4th suggesting friends could become like family members or vice versa. this opposition could suggest work/career opportunities to. Venus stands for finances and opp to jupiter you should get a little boost

I notice your time seems to be rounded up as hardly anyone is born on the o'clock. have you tested your Asc and MC with quicker moving transits, like T mars and mercury?

With Neptune soooo close to MC you may find your career fluctuates or dissolves at a repeating them.

Neptune conjunct Midheaven
"Your public life will ideally reflect your artistic and/or spiritual nature. However, early in life you may feel confused and lost over your life direction. Once on the right path, you have the ability to be inspirational in your career. There may well have been a certain degree of fantasy surrounding your early imaginings with regard to your ideal profession, and they may have been rather dreamy, far fetched. Your career could have connections with water, liquids or gases and fluids in some way, or your career may take you over, or under water such as Marine Biology"
http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html

 

suimui10

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I don't mean to sound harsh, but we ALL have to go through these transits, challenges/disappointments unfortunately. There is no shortcut, fast track ok or get out of jail card.

But that's exactly why I asked you all of your ideas and advice on how to best deal! I didn't say I have the monopoly in misfortune!


Probably T uranus conj chiron was responsible for the loss of job/income.

Actually not. Uranus was nowhere in my 2nd house when I lost my job/income.

T Neptune has been squaring your moon, this suggests problems relating to mother/family. this should be off now

No, the way that manifested was with extreme emotional pain. The family issues came up later and are still going.

t Jupiter is now 10' taurus just gone into your 4th house/family issues and things *should* improve with this benefic there for next 12months :smile: When T Jupiter gets to 15/16' taurus it will form an opp to venus and this could suggest socialising more. Jupiter rules your 11th house of friendships and is currently transiting 4th suggesting friends could become like family members or vice versa. this opposition could suggest work/career opportunities to. Venus stands for finances and opp to jupiter you should get a little boost

Yeah, I noticed that and I hope this is the little window of respite I was looking for. I was unsure if this one benefic transit can balance off the entire Universe of squares I have going as well. Let's hope I will feel it as much as the malefic stuff. Thanks for bringing it up!


I notice your time seems to be rounded up as hardly anyone is born on the o'clock.

No, it's not rounded. It's the exact time as it shows in my birth papers. I agree that the minutes can't be exact, but that's all I have on paper and so I use it as it is.

With Neptune soooo close to MC you may find your career fluctuates or dissolves at a repeating them.

No, this description of N Nept is not me. I never "fluctuated" in my career/job. This is the first time in my life I am unemployed and can't get back to what I worked so hard to build!

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"Your public life will ideally reflect your artistic and/or spiritual nature. However, early in life you may feel confused and lost over your life direction. Once on the right path, you have the ability to be inspirational in your career. There may well have been a certain degree of fantasy surrounding your early imaginings with regard to your ideal profession, and they may have been rather dreamy, far fetched. Your career could have connections with water, liquids or gases and fluids in some way, or your career may take you over, or under water such as Marine Biology"

No, nothing to do with me. I have read that description before. I have never been "confused" in life about anything. I'm very driven and I knew what I wanted to do with my life from very early, worked hard to achieve it and to build my career. As always with isolated descriptions you need to see the whole chart.

Thanks, a50.

If anyone would like to offer an eyeball; what I mean by "eyeball" is this: help me figure the big picture, e.g. which midlife transit to prepare for first (kind of prioritizing these transits, u know?), how they might work out together (since they hit me all almost simultaneously) and which (possibly positive) area to focus for going ahead. I don't think that's too much to ask of an experienced astro eye. On the other hand, if I come across as knowing what to ask and how to ask for help, maybe people think I have the answers too. Far from it. I need to lend someone else's eyes on my chart. Thanks.
 
So we have:

-confusion (Nept sq Sun/Nept/MC)
-loss (Pl sq Pl/Ur)
-upheaval? (Ur opp Ur -- though I look forward to that!! Uranus is strong in my chart and its ruler)

Is there any rock under which I can park for the next 5yrs??
Seriously I have no clue.
It's one step forward ten backwards everyday. If at least ONE thing was going well, then I would remain optimistic, stay low, weather it. But NOTHING works!! I lost my job, career is in the pits, lost bf, lost social life, family proved a joke, lost my home and income, ...what else is there?
BTW I'm not venting! I'm asking in earnest!
I am sure some of the more experienced astrologers can offer some bird-eye-view of the chart situation and maybe even give me something to look forward to, because I really can't see anything in this darkness and fog.

by simply asking about all this *confusion* you are speaking your neptune conj MC energies.

sun conj neptune will overshadow and influence our sun's energies and make you more pisces/neptunian rather than Saggi

No, nothing to do with me. I have read that description before. I have never been "confused" in life about anything. I'm very driven and I knew what I wanted to do with my life from very early, worked hard to achieve it and to build my career. As always with isolated descriptions you need to see the whole chart
What is it exactly that you DO or qualified in?? does it have a neptunian them?

ruler of MC posited in 8th suggests working with other people's finances and all 8th house issues
 

suimui10

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by simply asking about all this *confusion* you are speaking your neptune conj MC energies.

No, a50, you overlook the fact that I have been under a T Nept square to my N Sun/Nept/MC! It's this square that created the confusion (well, in combination with the loss of job/career/income), not my natal chart configuration.

What is it exactly that you DO or qualified in?? does it have a neptunian them?

I'm in science. Nothing Neptunian about it. Check my Uranus/Mars in my natal.
Again, this discussion is off. I didn't ask anyone to look at my natal chart. My problem is my midlife transits and I need help how to deal with the pile of them on my head...

ruler of MC posited in 8th suggests working with other people's finances and all 8th house issues

Yes, I've read about that. Even my Saturn placement shows that I deal well with money. But it's not me. I don't work in the financial/banking sector. I'm not attracted to that at all.
Again, I am not looking at alternative careers. I know both what I want to be, what I am, and what my alternatives are if I wanted to explore any.

My request for help was about the heavy-duty TRANSITS I have been having for a while.

thanks,
Sui
 
apologies for trying to be helpful then. I hope someone chips in. I strongly suggest your TOB is incorrect as you simply don't identify with anything I've said........
 

suimui10

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Wow, you misunderstood my responses. I simply responded that your reading my natal is a waste of time and energy. I'm an expert of my natal chart; I know it inside out. This is not what I need help with right now in this thread.
I appreciate your help very much indeed but it is not the help I need on the particular question that I asked.
Taking this personally is just wrong. You are in my list of friends for a reason, a50!

apologies for trying to be helpful then. I hope someone chips in. I strongly suggest your TOB is incorrect as you simply don't identify with anything I've said........
 

waybread

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suimui10, the economy is hitting a lot of people since 2008-- it may be that you are doing everything right in an economy that is still leaving 9% of Americans unemployed.

I didn't see anything totally jumping out about your chart-- and you don't have to answer a very personal question to a total stranger on an Internet forum-- but I wonder how you think other people would rate your financial responsibility. This might be something like your borrowing money from friends or family members in the past and not repaying it. or it might be something like extended couch-surfing with friends or family when you needed a place to stay, but not helping with the house work or rent.

If we look at your second house of money, with Pisces on the cusp, we want to check out the condition of Jupiter (traditional ruler) and Neptune (modern ruler.)

Jupiter is in the 9th house, opposing Saturn in the 3rd. Possibly you've had an optimistic, Jupiterian view of money (student loans?) and have been brought up short by siblings if you have any, neighbours (3rd house people)--or more generally, a belief that "something will turn up" when the Cosmic Bill Collector says otherwise.

Neptune conjunct your sun and MC in the 10th opposed by your moon in the 4th also makes me wonder if you've been super-realistic about your career, sense of identity, or Mom and home life. Possibly you've been overly optimistic when circumstances suggested you had work to do shoring up your relationship with your parents (if still living.)

Chiron in the 2nd house has been hit by a Pluto square for some time. This reads like the Big Ouch to me. Your north node of personal growth in the 2nd house, however, suggests that your growth may lie precisely in getting your money matters organized.

But hey, I am only an amateur-- you may be a very shrewd master of personal finance. But I don't quite get such vibes from what you wrote or your chart.

One thing you might consider if you have a sufficient education is working overseas. If you have a university degree, you might be able to teach English in Japan or Korea, for example. They pay fairly well for a year's teaching assignment. You might be able to teach or apply your science background through something like the Peace Corps.

What is your science background and career, if you don't mind my asking? It would make a difference if you are a hospital lab technician or research scientist at a university level, obviously. Oh, and are you mobile?

With your Jupiter in the 9th house and sun-Mercury in Sagittarius, maybe you could use some overseas travel just now. Sure, the moon in Taurus in the 4th is a homebody, but it is progressed into a new sign and house by now. Alternatively, take advantage of your sun sextiling Pluto and Uranus in the 8th, and look for an exciting career as a paramedic.

In terms of "what you are supposed to be doing," I don't think the universe works that way. You create your choices, you don't discover them Out There somewhere. Make a plan because you say so.

Good luck to you!
 
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suimui10

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Thanks, waybread.
I actually have zero debt. I'm one of those people who pay their bills ahead of time and always paid everything off. I never had student loans; I worked all my life until now and I was pretty hard-working as a student so I always got scholarships. I also studied and lived and worked overseas extensively (I'm no spring chicken; check my date of birth).
The chart above is with equal house system. Using the placidus or the astro.com default, my NN is in the 1st house. Knowing myself, it's to do with self-value rather than financial matters.
Pluto squaring my Chiron yes it has been extremely painful, esp. in combination with my T Nept squares to MC and IC for a while...

Do you have any feedback on the midlife transits I mentioned and for which I asked help in this post? Have you been through Pluto sq Pluto, or Nept square Sun/Nept or Pluto sq Uranus yourself? Any advice how to best deal with them, what to expect, when you see this tide subsiding?

thanks again,
Sui
 
Please could you delinate how your neptune tightly conj MC plays out in your life? As it's not a wide orb, it's within minutes.....

midlife crisis, Neptune square Neptune
http://cosmicexploration.blogspot.com/2009/12/neptune-square-midlife-crisis.html
“I consider it a person's spiritual initiation. This is the time when a person usually subtly or not so subtly starts feeling the need to somehow someway tap into the universal source consciousness and start living as someone who contributes to the greater good. In some ways, this transit is about actualizing your purpose in life, or more accurately, actualizing the universal purpose of leaving the world a better place once you leave than it was when you came in. This transit marks the beginning of spiritual adulthood, but it often doesn't feel like a very 'adult' transit.”
http://practicalastrology.prettyfedup.com/specializinginmidflifetransits.htm
“Neptune transits may be the most difficult to explain and predict, in terms of what might happen. Overall, they seem to coincide with the dissolution of boundaries in the areas (Houses) they pass through and the Houses that aspected planets reside in. The confusion and illusion tend to happen to the degree we have taken our self-imposed or culturally sanctioned borders and barriers too seriously. Neptune represents a gentling shock of indivisibility, exposing the underlying unity of all existence. When we forget about that or take our separatist egos too seriously, Neptune tends to have the last laugh.”
http://tribes.tribe.net/astrotransits/thread/1ce5697b-dce0-4f3a-93a9-731dd3c17050
“Neptune square Neptune in the chart we are confronted with that "vision thing". Neptune is our ideals, our vision of how things can/should be. This transit challenges us to revisit our vision for ourselves and see how closely we are aligned with it. If we are out of alignment we can experience quite a feeling of loss and grieving over what could have been if we had only followed through. Neptune is also associated with the urge to transcend the personality so this transit can also be experienced as a questioning of how we are manifesting spiritual grace”
http://www.lifeqwest.com/midlife.html
 
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