No fire at all in my natal chart...

[Life]

Hej dear astrologers!

0% fire in my natal chart...
So what shall I do?

I got almost no energy for anything, I feel like I'm 90 years old (I'm 18), I don't even remember how the feeling "enthusiasm" feels, but I know for sure I felt it when I was a little kid. Anyways I don't wanna live a life like this, so what shall I do? I'm like a zombie, please help me!

 

[JUPITERASC]

Hej dear astrologers!

0% fire in my natal chart...
So what shall I do?

I got almost no energy for anything, I feel like I'm 90 years old (I'm 18), I don't even remember how the feeling "enthusiasm" feels, but I know for sure I felt it when I was a little kid. Anyways I don't wanna live a life like this, so what shall I do? I'm like a zombie, please help me!

It's interesting as well as useful to analyze and understand your natal chart, however it does take time and in the meantime, as you learn it's useful to have good advice as well so here's a link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H94Dz4Iq2d4

Perhaps you are experiencing some boredom? Great blog http://esmaralda-astrology.com/2013/06/05/the-wealth-of-ross-perot/

 

[Life]

It's interesting as well as useful to analyze and understand your natal chart, however it does take time and in the meantime, as you learn it's useful to have good advice as well so here's a link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H94Dz4Iq2d4

Perhaps you are experiencing some boredom? Great blog http://esmaralda-astrology.com/2013/06/05/the-wealth-of-ross-perot/

Thank you for your answer, though I'm not just bored, I'm diagnosed with depression and nothing seems to help, it just came so clear to me that it was my destiny to live in pain..

 

[Life]

That's my natal chart..

 

[greybeard]

I am not so sure your lifelessness is due to lack of Fire.

Notice in your chart the opposition between Sun and Saturn, right across the horizon (on the Angles.)

Then, we find Pluto right on the Nadir.

Although Pluto is not in zodiacal square to the planets on the horizon, it IS in mundane square ("by houses") and thus these three Angles are sorely afflicted.

I suggest you study these three aspects: Sun opposition Saturn, Sun square Pluto, and most especially Saturn square Pluto. Pluto is particularly strong because he's in his own sign and at point focus of this very unusual mundane T-square.

Depression? Of course... Sun opposes Saturn right across the horizon.

I know something about depression. I've lived for 71 winters now and it was with me all my life. Guess what. It went away all by itself. But of course it didn't go away until I was already an old man. In the meantime it caused all sorts of problems.

If you give up, cave in, sit around and feel sorry for yourself...Well, Failure is the only thing you can expect.

I hope you will take Courage instead of little pills.

 

[princess valhalla]

well, despite have no planets in fire signs, you do have planets in fire houses . . you have 1st house and 5th house planets.

http://guides.wikinut.com/The-Fire-Element-in-Astrology/14rc3-i./

 

[Life]

I am not so sure your lifelessness is due to lack of Fire.

Notice in your chart the opposition between Sun and Saturn, right across the horizon (on the Angles.)

Then, we find Pluto right on the Nadir.

Although Pluto is not in zodiacal square to the planets on the horizon, it IS in mundane square ("by houses") and thus these three Angles are sorely afflicte

I suggest you study these three aspects: Sun opposition Saturn, Sun square Pluto, and most especially Saturn square Pluto. Pluto is particularly strong because he's in his own sign and at point focus of this very unusual mundane T-square.

Depression? Of course... Sun opposes Saturn right across the horizon.

I know something about depression. I've lived for 71 winters now and it was with me all my life. Guess what. It went away all by itself. But of course it didn't go away until I was already an old man. In the meantime it caused all sorts of problems.

If you give up, cave in, sit around and feel sorry for yourself...Well, Failure is the only thing you can expect.

I hope you will take Courage instead of little pills.

Hi man, I'm sorry your depression didnt go away before you were already an old man. But im not gonna wait so long, sorry. And what exactly does Sun opposition saturn means? am I doomed for lifelong depression?
And trust me, Ive tried, tried so hard to get in a better mood..

 

[Zarathu]

When a question is asked by someone who obviously knows so very very little about astrology, one wants to offer a flip answer, with something like: "yeah dude, no fire, clearly you'll be listless forever".

Whether you have a lot of fire at birth has literally no bearing on how your life will progress, or or energy levels to do things.

However, you have also limited the ability of any astrologer to do an analysis for you by eliminating the birth data from the chart. Most astrologers gain far more from the chart that what a pretty picture of the chart shows, stuff that is not shown in the photo. You don't have to provide the data, but you can't expect a full analysis of your life without it.

At only 19 yars old, you have so much of life to do that you don't even have a clue how much can be accomplished. I wish I was still 19, but then I'm an "old man", and haven't been 19 since 1968.

 

[JUPITERASC]

That's my natal chart..

Fiery Mars is dampened in Tropical Cancer
Fiery Sun is cramped in Tropical Virgo
Fiery Jupiter is in watery Tropical Scorpio

Although your natal chart has 'no planets in fire signs', your natal chart nevertheless does have 'fire houses' - everyone does - those are the houses ruled by Aries, Leo and Sagittarius

 

[Zarathu]

You PM'd me with your data.

Just because I told you what many astrologers would need to get a decent analysis doesn't mean that I was offering to do a full analysis for you pro-bono.

If you are seriously depressed, astrology is not your answer, you need to go see a medical professional and get some help. Or you need to see a real person and get some counseling.

 

[Life]

I have sun opposition saturn, ascendant opposition saturn.

anyways ill go get medical help instead :S

 

[greybeard]

P.S. If you provide your chart, you provide your data.
A specific chart such as the one above can fit only one time and one place.
In 5 minutes I can put your birth data here for everyone to see.

So blacking out the data does not protect your information.

I like to play poker.

You are dealt some cards: It's called "The luck of the draw".
But the luck ends there.
Because even if you are dealt the worst hand at the table, you can still win the pot.
It's all in how you play your cards.

Which Geriatric Resort should we send your birthday greetings to Zarathu?

And by the way, Life... Pain is a necessary part of life. It it what pushes us to grow stronger, wiser and happier. Do not flee from pain.

When I was a 14-15 year old kid I was on the swimming team at school. Pain every day, more pain, pushing your body and will beyond any limits they might ever have imagined before. And the Coach said, "Swim through the pain." That's what you did if you wanted to improve. Swim through the pain... and watch what happens on the other side of it.

 

[anjelik]

Hej dear astrologers!

0% fire in my natal chart...
So what shall I do?

I got almost no energy for anything, I feel like I'm 90 years old (I'm 18), I don't even remember how the feeling "enthusiasm" feels, but I know for sure I felt it when I was a little kid. Anyways I don't wanna live a life like this, so what shall I do? I'm like a zombie, please help me!

You have a load of Scorpio and Capricorn - those two signs alone are quite driven to succeed. I don't have any personal planets in fire (I know that you have zero) and I don't have a lack of motivation. I think you are looking for an excuse to be lazy?

 

[Life]

You have a load of Scorpio and Capricorn - those two signs alone are quite driven to succeed. I don't have any personal planets in fire (I know that you have zero) and I don't have a lack of motivation. I think you are looking for an excuse to be lazy?

Hehe no, I'm looking for the answer why I am like I am. Why i dont find any joy in life etc.

But i also have Sun opposition saturn, and ascendant opposition saturn.
Saturn stands for misery, depression and limits if i got astrology correct?

 

[kimbermoon]

Depression is an illness that cannot be taken lightly...know that you are not alone in this, even if you feel disconnected, isolated or dysfunctional. Saturn opposing the Sun depicts a disconnect or lack within yourself that serves to separate you from others. The Sun represents your Identity, or personal sense of self, which is molded in the past [childhood conditioning] especially relating to the father. Do you feel he has been a strict authoritarian with you? Has he undermined your confidence or self-worth in some way? Perhaps he was distant or emotionally cold towards you. Therein lies the source of your inner discomfort which serves to distort your overall view in life. Venus in your chart shows a tendency towards insecurity and low self-esteem. We find Pluto at the cusp of the 4th H relating to your past and the parental influencing; there is likely a genetic component to your experiencing of depression...this also tells us that you need to purge the negative emotions connected with the past, by transforming your views of it. This will be a long and enduring phase of healing for you, but once you learn the tools of overcoming the past, you will be able to regain an accurate sense of self that is not conditioned by others. From a psychological perspective, depression shows the need for creating an anchor of faith and trust in life, since the lifeline has at some time been severed. Your elemental balance shows that you are very much introverted and shy; probably highly sensitive; experiencing social anxiety because of your distorted view of self. Your burdens in life seem endless to you, but this is a false perception. In order to change your external experiences, you first must become familiarized with your inner landscape [the psyche]...and to do so you must have courage, self-honesty and the willingness to be accountable ...you have to have a really deep look at what is going on inside of you, for that is what creates your difficulties in the outside world. And you must never give up. Should you wish help in further assessing your birth chart, I am available, via PM.

 

[ashriia]

Hehe no, I'm looking for the answer why I am like I am. Why i dont find any joy in life etc.

But i also have Sun opposition saturn, and ascendant opposition saturn.
Saturn stands for misery, depression and limits if i got astrology correct?

oh geez. that is too much of a fatalistic view of Saturn. If that were true every person with a strong saturn in their chart and every Capricorn on the planet would be committing suicide, and that simply is not so. Saturn can be a great teacher, a source of tremendous strength. But the limits, and restrictions imposed by Saturn are to help you grow and mature. how does anyone rejoice in happiness if they haven't known pain. you simply can't appreciate happiness without knowing pain. I have Saturn square sun, pluto in the 4th too, not conjunct the ic like yours tho. And Saturn in the 3rd house.

Saturn can teach you to overcome obstacles, it should not be an excuse to give in and give up. It would be of great benefit to learn more about Saturn. Will and determination are also aspects of Saturn. Pluto in the 4th, lots of internal transformations in your lifetime. It's a source of strength.

 

[Life]

oh geez. that is too much of a fatalistic view of Saturn. If that were true every person with a strong saturn in their chart and every Capricorn on the planet would be committing suicide, and that simply is not so. Saturn can be a great teacher, a source of tremendous strength. But the limits, and restrictions imposed by Saturn are to help you grow and mature. how does anyone rejoice in happiness if they haven't known pain. you simply can't appreciate happiness without knowing pain. I have Saturn square sun, pluto in the 4th too, not conjunct the ic like yours tho. And Saturn in the 3rd house.

Saturn can teach you to overcome obstacles, it should not be an excuse to give in and give up. It would be of great benefit to learn more about Saturn. Will and determination are also aspects of Saturn. Pluto in the 4th, lots of internal transformations in your lifetime. It's a source of strength.

Thanks, that sounded better

 

[anjelik]

Hehe no, I'm looking for the answer why I am like I am. Why i dont find any joy in life etc.

But i also have Sun opposition saturn, and ascendant opposition saturn.
Saturn stands for misery, depression and limits if i got astrology correct?

I have a really strong Saturn presence in my chart so I would tend to disagree. Additionally, I went through a very intense Saturn Return and I must say that there were definitely some awful times in those 2.5 years. Saturn is about restriction only if you fight what its trying to teach you.

 

[JUPITERASC]

Hehe no, I'm looking for the answer why I am like I am. Why i don't find any joy in life etc.

But i also have Sun opposition saturn, and ascendant opposition saturn.
Saturn stands for misery, depression and limits if i got astrology correct?

Interesting Life, that you mention specifically 'joy in life', because traditionally planets have specific houses of Joy where individual planets are particularly happily located. Interestingly, your natal Mercury is located in First Whole Sign House. Mercury Joys in First House

Brief article Whole Sign Houses The Original House System at http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/wholesignhouses.html

Extended Chart Selection Page on astro.com provides for the creation of any natal chart in any one of fourteen different house systems - Placidus is simply the default. Clicking on the default system brings into view a drop down menu showing alternative choices that include Whole Sign Houses. So it's easy to experiment with creating your natal chart in alternative house systems. Simply, there is no one house system that is universally in use - different astrologers prefer different house systems

House of Joy For Each Planet - the house where each of the traditional planets is assumed especially strong:

Moon - 3rd house;
Mercury - 1st house;
Venus - 5th house
Sun - 9th house;
Mars - 6th house;
Jupiter - 11th house;
Saturn - 12th house.

Free online Tutorial on Planetary Joys http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary1e.html

 

[may28gemini]

The only fire planet I have is Sagittarius Neptune which is generational but I'm really a big ole ball of energy. I have Libra Saturn on my Asc and it aspects virtually all my other planets (except Venus) and I'm not depressed. Even as a child, I was on rage mode if someone pushes me around. I don't give in so quickly. I (like 99.9% of people) didn't have fun during my Saturn's return but I didn't fight what I had to learn and as a result, I'm stronger now than before. But, that's because Saturn likes my chart. Still, I'm not depressed, I like trying new things and I hate misery. Saturn isn't the rotten ba$tard that everyone likes to pile on him.

I think the Virgo Sun on the AC having difficult aspects to Saturn and Pluto (as was brought up by others earlier) play a major part in how stuck you feel. But then again, you're 18/19 so at that age, there's still a lot of teenage angst and growing up to do. I don't think you're necessarily "depressed" but more like you're at an unstable age and just need to find solid ground. I've been through that. I think everyone's been through that phase in their lives. Eventually, those negative feelings will subside.

I think that since you have Pisces Saturn in the 7th which trines Mars in the 11th, I would suggest you look into some therapeutic/peaceful group activities that you can (slowly) make friends with. Ceramics? Various yoga classes? Dance? Stage acting? Painting? I don't know what you would think is "peaceful" but anything that you like and is of little pressure so you can slowly build up social confidence and feel good about yourself for being a part of it.