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leomoon

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Not to be controversial or anything :)wink:), but most Republicans have written off the hearings as a mere "witch-hunt", targeting Trump just because he's a Warlock.

And, they're celebrating the right of Evangelically-controlled States to force women into impoverishment, emotional devastation, and possible maternal death or life-threatening physical damage, by demanding that every pregnancy from its beginning, no matter how or why it occurred, results in giving birth.
The karma of the sin of omission is on them. Cayce suggests its worse then the sin of commission.
Many young women were described over the weekend by doctors as weeping, upset begging, "what should I do, where should I go now?" Most of them having no insurance and most of them already have children to take care of.
I believe it was in the Mississippi or Alabama area I was watching. But there was some good people too who were helping, such as a Pastor or Reverend from a Unitarian Church in Texas of all places, who had rented a bus and arranged for women to be taken to New Mexico to a clinic. A caring soul indeed. We need more like him.
I love to remember and see the good people like him are still quite active in the world everywhere darkness is.

The Rev. Daniel Kanter knew that fear would be a possibility.

He had been organizing travel programs for women seeking abortions since December, offering free transportation and medical appointments to patients with incomes under the federal poverty line through a partnership with the New Mexico Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.

In a meeting with volunteers four days before the departure of Amber’s group, Kanter warned that the women participating in the program are often fearful when they arrive, worried about the law in Texas and worried about the program itself.

“No one owes us anything; not their story, not their thanks, not their acknowledgement and not their smile,” Kanter said, addressing the group of volunteers. “In some cases, we’re dealing with people who carry trauma and are primed not to trust us, so we need to present our most direct and gentle selves.”
He reiterated that the program is legal for now, as long as abortion remains legal in New Mexico and lawmakers in Texas don’t attempt to restrict residents’ ability to travel elsewhere for a procedure.
 

david starling

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Here's a real possibility--Texas, for example, might prosecute women who reside there for traveling out-of-State to receive an abortion.

How would the current Supreme Court rule on THAT?
 

david starling

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Roe didn't authorize GOVERNMENTAL FORCE regarding a woman's CHOICE to have or to not have an abortion, or whether or not to use contraception.

Whereas, the Supreme Court abolishment of Roe DOES authorize GOVERNMENTAL FORCE regarding those choices. And, since that force is based on the RELIGIOUS BELIEFS of particular denominations, the Court has made a FEDERAL decision to violate the Establishment Clause written into the Constitution. This current Supreme Court majority has DISGRACED the Court itself, by violating the Constitution it's sworn to uphold.
 

leomoon

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Scanning the natal of both J.D. Vance (R) being endorsed by trump in Ohio, (he was an anti-trump until he saw it was better to be a pro-trump so did a 180 deg switch as many have done before him (see wiki bio for this hypocrite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Vance


I don't think he will make it. Of course this is without seeing or knowing a time of birth ....and that of course can change everything.

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Democrat Tim Ryan (D-Ohio)
again, no tob: I think he's a Yes :
But with his Vesta and Mercury rx at birth, there may be with tr Jupiter tr here, a close call and demand for a recount?? a typical, trump "tell them you can't lose, it's a lie" type of election.
OR the retrograde may suggest a delay for a different reason?

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Oddity

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Roe didn't authorize GOVERNMENTAL FORCE regarding a woman's CHOICE to have or to not have an abortion, or whether or not to use contraception.

Whereas, the Supreme Court abolishment of Roe DOES authorize GOVERNMENTAL FORCE regarding those choices. And, since that force is based on the RELIGIOUS BELIEFS of particular denominations, the Court has made a FEDERAL decision to violate the Establishment Clause written into the Constitution. This current Supreme Court majority has DISGRACED the Court itself, by violating the Constitution it's sworn to uphold.
The Roe decision was based on constitutional law, not on religion. There is no argument of religion in the decision. Abortion is not an enumerated right in the Constitution, ergo, it is up to the states to handle it. That could mean state legislature, or popular vote.

IOW, it gives the decision back to the people, not the federal government. That is not a bad thing. Unless you'd prefer all laws to be decreed in DC - which would work until a regime you don't like got into power and decreed their laws.

The federal government havng less power over peoples' lives is a GOOD thing, not a bad one.
 

dr. farr

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Ryan seems more likely with powerful mars on asc in rising aries and NN in 10th; Retro Jupiter is a problem, somewhat Also problematical is highly elevated lilith; moon/mercury opposition could indicate some problem with media and/or communicating his precise message (please note: I am a-political and do not hold any political agenda-my observations here are exclusively astrological)
 
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leomoon

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Telling women they MUST bear children is government intervention. IF the States wanted to bring back Slavery, then should that be the individual States decision too? IF the States want to stop women and minorities from voting should Federal govt let the States make that choice?
Didn't Abraham Lincoln want a Union of all States and fought a Civil War for it? Should we let States secede from the Union so they don't have to provide Civil Rights to all?

BTW: Federal Law HAD to integrate Schools, because States would not do the right thing, refusing integration. Remember? ? (if you know your history or perhaps were not alive in the turbulent 50s-1960s)

History of de-segregation:

LBJ sends federal troops to Alabama. After an Alabama federal judge ruled on March 18 that a third march could go ahead, President Johnson and his advisers worked quickly to find a way to ensure the safety of King and his demonstrators on their way from Selma to Montgomery. The most powerful obstacle in their way was Governor Wallace,.


 
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leomoon

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Ryan seems more likely with powerful mars on asc in rising aries and NN in 10th; Retro Jupiter is a problem, somewhat Also problematical is highly elevated lilith; moon/mercury opposition could indicate some problem with media and/or communicating his precise message (please note: I am a-political and do not hold any political agenda-my observations here are exclusively astrological)
No tob known in either case or chart :( sorry if I wasn't clear on that.
 

Oddity

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Telling women they MUST bear children is government intervention. IF the States wanted to bring back Slavery, then should that be the individual States decision too? IF the States want to stop women and minorities from voting should Federal govt let the States make that choice?
Didn't Abraham Lincoln want a Union of all States and fought a Civil War for it? Should we let States secede from the Union so they don't have to provide Civil Rights to all?

BTW: Federal Law HAD to integrate Schools, because States would not do the right thing, refusing integration. Remember? ? (if you know your history or perhaps were not alive in the turbulent 50s-1960s)

History of de-segregation:

LBJ sends federal troops to Alabama. After an Alabama federal judge ruled on March 18 that a third march could go ahead, President Johnson and his advisers worked quickly to find a way to ensure the safety of King and his demonstrators on their way from Selma to Montgomery. The most powerful obstacle in their way was Governor Wallace,.

I wasn't aware that the Court had decreed forced impregnation.
 

leomoon

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I wasn't aware that the Court had decreed forced impregnation.
There used to be a song many decades ago, this statement reminds me of. One I won't "play".
It's called, "the name game". (i.e. we know of course when we are honest with ourselves that is, exactly what is going on and what will be the end result for millions of young tearful women today if we watch the news like I do all weekend) You know, the ones who cannot get the controversial pill now. The ones who had their appointments cancelled. THOSE young women!

No, I prefer not to play the "name game".

 

leomoon

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Can anyone here imagine for a moment, their child, their grandchild having been raped, or a victim of incest at age 13 being FORCED by law made a victim a 2nd time of the STATE she lives in to carry a fetus 9 months to birth? To traumatize that child twice?
Can one even imagine such cruelty? Personally, I cannot. Yet, here it is, in the country of my birth. Medieval cruelty, torture of children by adults who are supposed to know better. Most of them claiming some type of Christian heritage on their side. Disgusting!!


“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. New Living Translation “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Matt:7:21

Matthew 18:6 "But whoever causes harm to one of these little ones, it would be better if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea."

It may seem logical that those aged 18 to 25 are completely mature, the brain still is maturing specifically the area known as the prefrontal cortex. Changes occurring between ages 18 and 25 are essentially a continued process of brain development that started during puberty. When youre 18, youre roughly halfway through the entire stage

Detrimental influences upon brain development​


Unfortunately many people are exposed to things that may have a detrimental impact on the development of their brain. These include negative social influences, substance abuse, and/or prolonged levels of high stress. Although some people will have more resilient brains than others as a result of genetics, it is recommended to minimize exposure to problematic stimuli and scenarios.

ENVIRONMENTAL STRESS AND THE BRAIN -
 

Oddity

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Can anyone here imagine for a moment, their child, their grandchild having been raped, or a victim of incest at age 13 being FORCED by law made a victim a 2nd time of the STATE she lives in to carry a fetus 9 months to birth? To traumatize that child twice?
Can one even imagine such cruelty? Personally, I cannot. Yet, here it is, in the country of my birth. Medieval cruelty, torture of children by adults who are supposed to know better. Most of them claiming some type of Christian heritage on their side. Disgusting!!
Which states have mandated this? Specifically that 13-year-old incest victims must give birth? Seriously asking. Will the offender at least be punished?
 

leomoon

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This whole topic, honestly; makes me want to throw up, even looking at it:
You'll all need to do your own research on States. Look to the worse being the Red States of course , as they seem to be the sadists in this country. (their governors) - and supporters -


p.s. I'd start with screwball Texas first - Abbott says he is getting rid of rape this way. eliminating rape so you'll not have pregnant children and incest in Texas.


Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) defended his state’s six-week abortion ban on Tuesday, dismissing concerns that it does not provide exceptions for pregnancies that result from rape or incest.
 
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