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Moondancing

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Hillary initially conceded the 2016 election to Trump, UNTIL she was informed about the Russian interference on Facebook, with Russian agents posing as American citizens influencing political opinions in the swing-States. They fled back to Russia to avoid prosecution.

But, as far as can be proven, Putin did this on his own, without Trump's knowledge or consent.

Hillary NEVER warned of violence or fomented violence as a response by her followers to her election loss.
People tried desperately to point out it was not his intent and pointed to his calling for a peaceful demonstration. Ultimately his twitter account showed him calling for peace before he was ban. Have you ever found his critics wrong or when evidence showed him in the clear of wrong doing, you changed your mind? Once?
 

david starling

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People tried desperately to point out it was not his intent and pointed to his calling for a peaceful demonstration. Ultimately his twitter account showed him calling for peace before he was ban. Have you ever found his critics wrong or when evidence showed him in the clear of wrong doing, you changed your mind? Once?

His "We fight like Hell. And if you don't fight like Hell, you're not going to have a Country anymore!" quote does nothing to help his case.

I'm still wondering about where that "Hang Mike Pence" gallows came from!


His Liberal critics were wrong when they refused give him credit for "Operation Warp Speed".
 
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Moondancing

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His "We fight like Hell. And if we don't fight like Hell, we're not going to have a Country anymore!" quote does nothing to help his case.

He said "We're going to MARCH* peacefully, not demonstrate peacefully.

*(emphasis added)
Is it possible he means fight in the courts, through legal means? Fighting like hell is exactly what is needed to protect our vote. I don't know if the problems with our system would have changed the outcome but there were glaring problems that needs addressing.

Both sides jump on any word, any line and try to make it fit their message. Trump was an easy target.
 

david starling

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Is it possible he means fight in the courts, through legal means? Fighting like hell is exactly what is needed to protect our vote. I don't know if the problems with our system would have changed the outcome but there were glaring problems that needs addressing.

Both sides jump on any word, any line and try to make it fit their message. Trump was an easy target.

No results-changing voting problems occurred. I wish people would stop claiming they did, just because he lost. The same voting system was in place in 2016, when he won.

Remember the Ninja audit in Arizona that was supposed to provide proof once and for all that the votes were counted incorrectly? Turned out, the vote-count was accurate.
 

david starling

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His "We fight like Hell. And if you don't fight like Hell, you're not going to have a Country anymore!" quote does nothing to help his case.

I'm still wondering about where that "Hang Mike Pence" gallows came from!


His Liberal critics were wrong when they refused give him credit for "Operation Warp Speed".

His 13 executions after the Supreme Court allowed him to lift the ban on the death penalty for Federal prisoners were wrong, imo.

What did he do "right" except to help get the mRNA shots available so quickly?

His administration removed the ban on "gain of function" research in the U.S., which was wrong imo.

Must be SOMETHING I actually think he did right from my own point of view, just can't remember exactly what it was. :unsure:

Well, definitely NOT his pushing through that massive tax cut for the Super-wealthy!

And not his policy of separating immigrant children from their parents and then deporting the parents without their children!
 
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leomoon

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Gurmeet Singh: New Predictions: Update - (find him on Facebook and Twitter)

DONALD TRUMP IS INDICTED SECOND TIME, AND WHERE WE GO FROM HERE
Donald Trump is indicted second time; I am not surprised at all. Two more indictments, Fulton County indictment and Jan 6 indictment are coming for Donald Trump before September 1, 2023. My astrology prediction given two years ago came correct. I had predicted Donald Trump indictments before May 1, 2024, most likely between March and September 2023. Then I further tried to fine tune my astrology prediction to March 4 and July 15, 2023, and we saw two indictments during this time. I always strive for more accuracy and precision in my astrology predictions when I provide astrology predictions to my clients, readers, fans and friends. People were waiting impatiently to hear from Special Counsel Jack Smith regarding Donald Trump indictments. I further tried to fine tune my astrology prediction to see when we will hear from Special Counsel Jack Smith about Trump indictments, and my astrology prediction was off by 26 days, because I said between July 4 and July 31, we will hear from Special Counsel Jack Smith.
These are my Vedic Astrology Predictions. Donald Trump will most likely be convicted in one or more than one indictment cases between November 1, 2023, and June 1, 2024, could also face some kind of confinement during this time. The delay tactics that Donald Trump uses will not work in this time window. These will be speedy trials. During this time the Republican party will try to persuade Donald Trump to step aside and let a new Presidential Candidate become the nominee of the party. But Donald Trump may not agree to their advice, and still may go through the Republican Primaries with his 35% MAGA supporters to become the Presidential nominee of the party. In my opinion Donald Trump was unelectable in the General Election before these indictments and Donald Trump is even more unelectable after these indictments and more indictments to come. GOP party is very much screwed because of Donald Trump, they don’t know what to do next. If GOP goes against Donald Trump, then they lose support from the MAGA section of the party. Donald Trump could cost GOP party the House, the Senate and the Presidency in 2024 Presidential Election.
June 9, 2023
 
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leomoon

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Fulton County DA Fani Willis indictment about Trump is coming between July 31 and August 18. We will be done with all Trump indictments within the time window March 1 to September 1, 2023.

Debt Ceiling Default is avoided because of President Biden, and his 50 years’ experience in politics. President Biden is famous for going across the aisle to negotiate with Republicans in a bipartisan way, all his life. Majority of Democrats and Republicans voted for the Bill in a bipartisan way. The MAGA Republicans did not have enough votes to stop the bill.
Astrologically the time was not good, I was worried when I posted my Debt Ceiling astrology update. But credit goes to President Biden for his bipartisan negotiations with Keven McCarthy that saved the country from Debt Ceiling Default.
June 8, 2023

Note: Sometimes, even Vedic "K" timing gets it wrong......................STILL< they are the best I've seen in prediction! (DH) i.e. Leomoon
Debt Ceiling Bill is passed by Senate just now, great news!
June 1, 2023
Here is what he said:
ASTROLOGY UPDATE ON DEBT CEILING
Things are not looking good. You can read my 2023 astrology predictions for President Biden published more than two years ago on March 1, 2021. At this moment I would say 70% chance is US will default on debt ceiling. There is only 30% chance we may have some last-minute agreement between President Biden and Republicans. This will be a very close call.
I also think they will do some temporary agreement for a month or two. The actual agreement will be signed by them after July 2023.
May 25, 2023
 

leomoon

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Other blurbs in his blog:

. In my opinion Republican party is heading for a split at some point in future, don’t know exactly when. May be when they will realize they cannot win general elections in US anymore, because of Donald Trump. GOP is losing general elections since Trump’s victory in 2016, and they underperformed in the 2022 mid-term election. They were wondering and surprised why there was no red wave in 2022 mid-term election. But I was not, and predicted ahead of 2022 mid-term election that there will be no red wave. I was right and many pollsters were wrong.
Donald Trump can win the GOP primaries and become the GOP nominee, but please read my lips, DONALD TRUMP IS UNELECTABLE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AND DONALD TRUMP HAS MADE THE GOP PARTY UNELECTABLE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION UNLESS SOME MIRACLE HAPPENS.
May 11, 2023

New York Manhattan Case against Trump - Prosecutor D.A. Bragg for next March 2024:

I think Weisselberg flipped many months ago. That is why they have 34 counts in the indictment.
April 3, 2023 :oops:
:unsure:
 

Moondancing

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His 13 executions after the Supreme Court allowed him to lift the ban on the death penalty for Federal prisoners were wrong, imo.

What did he do "right" except to help get the mRNA shots available so quickly?

His administration removed the ban on "gain of function" research in the U.S., which was wrong imo.

Must be SOMETHING I actually think he did right from my own point of view, just can't remember exactly what it was. :unsure:

Well, definitely NOT his pushing through that massive tax cut for the Super-wealthy!

And not his policy of separating immigrant children from their parents and then deporting the parents without their children!
You have been around long enough to have seen these supposed abuses of power in every presidency. The dishonesty of TDS is that they single Trump out as particularly corrupt.

Dragging him through another trial for having government documents that concern national security, in which there is a law allowing the President such privileges, and all presidents even today have such documents, is the latest example of the two tiered system of justice in our country.

I don't want either Biden or Trump as president. But, I do not want political elites to use whatever means necessary to keep their leading opponent from running for president. Totally un-American!
 

david starling

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You have been around long enough to have seen these supposed abuses of power in every presidency. The dishonesty of TDS is that they single Trump out as particularly corrupt.

Dragging him through another trial for having government documents that concern national security, in which there is a law allowing the President such privileges, and all presidents even today have such documents, is the latest example of the two tiered system of justice in our country.

I don't want either Biden or Trump as president. But, I do not want political elites to use whatever means necessary to keep their leading opponent from running for president. Totally un-American!


He keeps giving his opponents ammunition. Then he can play the martyr who's sacrificing himself to save his followers, telling them they're doomed without him.

Too much drama and acrimony for me. Looks like he has a relatively rare mental illness, "HPD".
Take a look at the symptoms.

 
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david starling

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This HPD illness, which fits Trump's personality so well, looks legitimate. It's not a recently made-up one specific to only those who found Trump absolutely horrifying as a President, like "TDS".

First coined in 1968, there are now suggestions that "Histrionic Personality Disorder" should be relabeled "Exhibitionist Narcissistic Disorder".
 
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leomoon

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Dragging him through another trial for having government documents that concern national security, in which there is a law allowing the President such privileges, and all presidents even today have such documents, is the latest example of the two tiered system of justice in our country.

Actually none of them have privileges of taking home or to clubs after they are no longer in office Documents belonging to the people of the United States which belong in the Archives without the Archives approval first. He didn't bother getting approval, that was his first mistake.
When they asked for them back, he refused, that was his 2nd mistake. He then went into a cat & mouse mode game for 18 months with the Archival people until they were so disgusted they asked the Justice Dept. for help. When he got wind of the Justice Dept. coming, he had some boxes moved to New Jersey. (another crime to hide them )
The mistakes then turned into obstruction, which is a crime. He hid them. He also shared secret documents contents with people who had no right to know of or see them or hear about them, another crime that comes under the Espionage Act I believe - None of the others did the things that tRump did or was reported to have done.

There are witnesses to his crimes including his own lawyer and there is a tape (from his own lawyer) that he knew better . He even told his lawyer that he wanted him to go through them, and "pluck out" those that were "bad ones" that he should have taken and could cause him a lot of trouble now. He didn't want to admit having them and was stuck in a corner at that point.

Its best to read the Indictment through. All 37 Charges.

The other Presidents or Vice Presidents who were found to have documents they should not have had returned them immediately without argument. Trump did not. Trump "obstructed" which is a crime in itself. Each time one obstructs, one commits another crime. There are many citizens in prison today charged with obstruction. He is nothing special.

 
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leomoon

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/special-counsel-jack-smith-stared-222846723.html

Trump has been writing on Truth Social, terrible awful things about Special Counsel Jack Smith, his wife etc everyday - and today, Jack Smith made it known he isn't afraid of the bully in Miami:



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Per @GrahamKates, who was in the courtroom, Special Counsel Jack Smith closely watched Trump as Trump exited slowly at the end. He watched Trump glance at reporters sitting in the back. Smith never broke his stare at Trump, per Kates.
1:08 PM · Jun 13, 2023
 

leomoon

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New: Special Counsel Jack Smith was in the front row of the courtroom for Trump’s arraignment today — and stared towards the former president for essentially the entire appearance.
NOTE: he chose to sit with the reporter pool, and not with the prosecutors! He never broke his stare -

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Strange handprint -

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leomoon

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England Air Show this month: UFO deliberately joins the annual Air Show in a middle row -
 

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leomoon

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Any ideas about this year's Solar Return? I have a few - which includes the Neptune on his Ascendant (lies of course) and the Quintiles -he will at last ditch come up with something creative for himself, some type of "deal" to avoid a serious sentence?

Anyone else?
 

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david starling

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Any ideas about this year's Solar Return? I have a few - which includes the Neptune on his Ascendant (lies of course) and the Quintiles -he will at last ditch come up with something creative for himself, some type of "deal" to avoid a serious sentence?

Anyone else?

Mercury square Saturn has a bad reputation, which is said to include lying and difficulty communicating.

Neptune in Pisces conj Asc. is about vivid dreams.
 
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leomoon

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I have never known or met anyone in my 7 decades on this planet (including one mentally ill nun that I knew) who behaved this way! NEVER!
Even she wasn't this bad, and she was put into a retirement home early.

This is a man 77 yrs of age who has not only more money than he could ever spend or his family could spend in one lifetime, plus is given (for free) all the millions he asks for from millions of people, (7 Million dollars in one week alone) because he whined - and never has to take one dime out of his own pocket for the best lawyers in this country to prove his innocence. Of course he won't listen to them, but that is HIS choice.

Twice-indicted former President Donald Trump posted manic tantrum to his Truth Social app on Thursday afternoon in which he regurgitated false and debunked claims that he insists prove his innocence.


Trump wrote at 5:10 p.m.:


SO NOW THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT, PLUS THE CLINTON SOCKS CASE, TOTALLY EXONERATED ME FROM THE CONTINUING WITCH HUNT BROUGHT ON BY CORRUPT JOE BIDEN, THE DOJ, DERANGED JACK SMITH, AND THEIR RADICAL LEFT, MARXIST THUGS, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO DROP ALL CHARGES AGAINST ME, APOLOGIZE, AND RETURN EVERYTHING THAT WAS ILLEGALLY TAKEN (FOURTH AMENDMENT) FROM MY HOME? THIS WAS NOTHING OTHER THAN ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!
 
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