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david starling

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The Great Recession had nothing to do with Aquarius. It was Pluto ingressing Capricorn that started it all off, and the subsequent transits of Saturn and Jupiter along with Pluto that correlate to what led to the economic mess we're in now. I expect great improvement once Pluto leaves Capricorn and ingresses Aquarius, with Jupiter in Taurus and Saturn in Pisces.
 

leomoon

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The Great Recession had nothing to do with Aquarius. It was Pluto ingressing Capricorn that started it all off, and the subsequent transits of Saturn and Jupiter along with Pluto that correlate to what led to the economic mess we're in now. I expect great improvement once Pluto leaves Capricorn and ingresses Aquarius, with Jupiter in Taurus and Saturn in Pisces.
What can having Jupiter in Taurus & Saturn in Pisces do to help our nation heal? Especially regarding hatreds, pettiness & greed?
 

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CapAquaPis

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What can having Jupiter in Taurus & Saturn in Pisces do to help our nation heal? Especially regarding hatreds, pettiness & greed?
We'll see when the 2 biggest planets are surrounding Aries in 2023-26, the 250th anniversary of the USA, to see if we will be an united society once again. Saturn and Uranus squares are times of tension, crisis, problems and trouble for the world. When Saturn was in Leo and Uranus was in Scorpio in 1974-77 was an example of the stagflation and malaise described by president Jimmy Carter in an address to the nation at the end of the 1970s (Dec 1979).
 

david starling

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What can having Jupiter in Taurus & Saturn in Pisces do to help our nation heal? Especially regarding hatreds, pettiness & greed?
Jupiter in Taurus is about spreading the wealth, and materialistic generosity.
Saturn in Pisces will obviate against scapegoating, which has become a national and international pastime.
 

leomoon

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Why in the world would anyone in their right mind, vote for this guy? Because he's in the right club/ can throw a ball?
 

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CapAquaPis

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3 periods when natal Saturn square natal Uranus to produce different periods of world history: one period differs from another in levels of crisis or not:

1. (twice in) Dec? 1950-Oct 1953 (Saturn in Virgo/Libra+Uranus in Gemini/Cancer) - Korean war (Saturn exalted in Libra).
2. July 1975-June 1977 (Saturn in Leo+Uranus in Scorpio) - USA Bicentennial (Saturn opposite Aquarius, Uranus exalted).
3. or May 1999-Dec. 2000 (Saturn in Taurus+Uranus in Aquarius) - New Millennia (reverse vs 2021, Uranus in ruler sign).


1951 was a threat of WW3, 1976 was during Detente, 1999 was an economic peak and lastly, 2021 was in a pandemic.
 

CapAquaPis

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via Peter Stockinger Blog - "Saturn is located in the first house, in Aquarius, which is intercepted. The first house indicates the country and its inhabitants, their general condition of prosperity and health, or the lack of, as is the case, here. Mars, the eclipse ruler is located in the 6th house. In mundane astrology, this house signifies the working classes in general, but also the armed forces. It can also signify the nation’s food reserves, especially grains, and the farming industry in general."

The recession is in full force and working at a grocery store, the shorter supplies in less packed shelves combined with higher prices and lower financial earnings, I can see what's happening in late 2022 involving Saturn and then you find Mars which is going to be opposite Saturn in early 2023 (7th Leo).
 

CapAquaPis

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And the 9 periods of US history when Americans were convinced of they were in decline:
1. The Great Depression of 1930, 2. Pearl Harbor and WW2 of 1942-45, 3. Korean War and fear of nuclear armageddon of 1950s extended into the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, 4. Social turmoil including the Vietnam War of the late 1960s-early 1970s, 5. the Malaise from 1973-81, 6. The post cold war economic shock of 1987-94 combined with the rise of Japan, 7. Post 9-11 and War on Terror period of the 2000s, 8. The Great Recession of 2008-11 followed by Occupy vs Tea party protests, and 9. The most declinists in a lifetime but this has gone global from COVID to Trump to Putin to global climate change.
 

leomoon

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Defamation Case against trump ongoing:

Robbie Kaplan, attorney for E.Jeanne Carrol says:

"We are pleased that Judge Kaplan agreed with our position not to stay discovery in this case. We look forward to filing our case under the Adult Survivors Act and moving forward to trial with all dispatch.”

note: Trump must sit for a deposition next week in this case - as his motion to "delay" is denied.
 

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leomoon

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cont'd E. Jeanne Carrol vs donald trump :


Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan announced that she intends to file a separate lawsuit on Nov. 24, 2022, the date that New York’s Adult Survivors Act goes into effect. The removes what would have been the bar for Carroll to pursue her rape allegations themselves in civil litigation.


“The question whether Mr. Trump in fact raped Ms. Carroll is central to this case,” the opinion states. “But it will be central also to the new case that almost certainly will be filed on November 24, 2022 or soon thereafter. Accordingly, discovery and evidence relating to whether or not the alleged rape occurred is relevant to both cases. Mr. Trump has pointed to no discovery or other proceedings that would occur in this case absent a stay that would not be relevant also to the imminent new case.”


Former federal prosecutor Mitchell Epner called the ruling a “big win” for Carroll in that it keeps discovery alive before the new lawsuit is filed.


Calling the imminent case “a much better claim with much clearer damages than a claim for defamation,” Epner predicted that Carroll’s attorneys may pursue the latter lawsuit more vigorously than the original one.

Carroll, a former Elle magazine columnist, has said she also plans to sue Trump on Nov. 24 for battery and inflicting emotional distress.

On that date, a recently enacted New York state law gives victims of sexual misconduct a one-year window to sue over alleged sexual misconduct even if the statute of limitations has expired.
 
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leomoon

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FBI HAS NEW WITNESS COME FORWARD TO SAY HE WAS TOLD BY TRUMP TO MOVE BOXES INTO MAR LARDO.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A former employee of Donald Trump has told federal agents the former president asked for boxes of records to be moved within his Florida residence after receiving a government subpoena demanding their return, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

The testimony of the key witness, coupled with surveillance footage the Justice Department also obtained, represent some of the strongest known evidence to date of possible obstruction of justice by the former Republican president.


Both Civil & Criminal cases of Fraud await him and his in NY:
New York state's attorney general recently filed a civil lawsuit accusing Trump and three of his adult children of fraud and misrepresentation in preparing financial statements from the family real estate company.

The Trump Organization also is set to go on trial on Oct. 24 on New York state criminal tax fraud charges.
 

CapAquaPis

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In the last half of 2025 and early half of 2026, Saturn in Pisces squares Uranus in Gemini, and I don't know completely whether Saturn in Pisces is when any society rejects fear, hate and myths in favor of reason, unity and facts to keep itself together and recover from an earlier period of strife whenever Saturn is in Aquarius.
 

leomoon

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In the last half of 2025 and early half of 2026, Saturn in Pisces squares Uranus in Gemini, and I don't know completely whether Saturn in Pisces is when any society rejects fear, hate and myths in favor of reason, unity and facts to keep itself together and recover from an earlier period of strife whenever Saturn is in Aquarius.
So in other words, they accept fear, hate & myths rather then reason? Much like we've been seeing now for 5 straight years? That is again in our near future? OR did I read in reverse?
 

leomoon

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I use to see d.j. trump as the proverbial, "drunk at the end of the bar". Anyone who has ever been in the bar scene, knows what I'm alluding to.
But then again, I also see him as the new "Archie Bunker 2000" ....Archie knew everything, was a racist, anything that was different from him was cause for fear.


The actor who portrayed him, Carroll O'Connor, dished out one insult after another: "England is a fag country." His son-in-law Michael was a "Polack meathead." His daughter Gloria's women's lib, hell no. He was, in short, a very good hater. A sociologist would say it was a case of class anxiety; Archie Bunker felt his white male place in society was being eroded.
As luck would have it, President Donald Trump, born and bred in Queens, is just as small-minded as Archie. He spoke precisely to that audience of anger when he started the "birther" falsehood to undermine the first black president, Barack Obama. He woke up racist demons. Like his alter ego Archie, Trump is equally disinterested in culture, books and ideas. The only difference is that we can't change or turn off the channel.
 

leomoon

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Oh yawn! trump on E.Jean Carrol: (can't wait to see finally, the semen stained dress with his DNA on it)


"She is suing me on numerous frivolous cases, just like this one, and the court system does nothing to stop it. Now all I have to do is go through years more of legal nonsense in order to clear my name of her and her lawyer’s phony attacks on me," Trump concluded in the email.

The former president seemed to also suggest the lawsuit was connected to derailing his political career. His deposition is scheduled for Oct. 19.
 

leomoon

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M's James, the AG of NY said the trumps are up to their age old cons, even today:

Investigators suspect that Trump could move assets from his family real estate business to the new entity in an attempt to evade liability posed by the lawsuit, according to the attorney general's motion for a preliminary injunction.

 

leomoon

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The January 6th Congressional public hearings, has finished with today's last hearing - It appears without doubt that the Secret Service knew
how dangerous including murder was part of the agenda to come that fateful day (Jan.6th) as late as 1:55PM as they messaged back and forth. The Committee rec'd almost a million pages to go through of emails, texts, etc yet they did nothing as we now know. Perhaps the SS doesn't have the authority to send in the National Guard or anyone else to protect the Capitol Police, so the Capitol police were essentially all alone with the crazies assaults.

Today's hearing finished with a Subpeona being served on djtrump to appear with paper and pen in hand. (Documents) . Does he have the nerve to show up? My guess is no. Drunks at the end of the bar never do, they only yak.


 
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