New here and just learning about Quintiles

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FraterAC

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Here’s what Google gave me:
Others here have posted results from Google that have been just as ridiculous. Lots and lots of them.
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waybread

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Johannes Kepler is credited with the invention of the quintile aspect in astrology. For all you trads out there, Kepler lived from 1571-1630, so he qualifies as traditional.
 
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Outlook

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so then….if you include all the millions of fixed stars, all the thousands of asteroids, all the thousands of satellites…in your chart…assuming accuracy of birth hour which you might need to fiddle a bit to get right…..and ask a maths bof like @Monk to run you a Quin simulation in some 3d engineering software….it should look like you.

you possibly can then project your growth through all the points of time…including hair styles!

those with Uranus|| Venus out there…. boy will they look interesting.
 

Outlook

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It is thought that you need to be aware of quintiles before they start working
i forgot to come back to this…..

i have found the same applies to other positions. you can disregard orbs and grow your own organically by exercising focus and building connection…..’as if’ they were there.

i have a sense of pushing feelers out to reach the quality I need each time. i call it. i reach using intent.

so some stuff comes with the birth box, other stuff you grow yourself by need of use.

because someone praised me for solving a puzzle…i became a software engineer that could untangle anything magically. i just fiddle a bit here and there pointlessly or aimlessly….and the solution always comes. earned me a fortune.
because someone pointed out they came to me for a fix because i always think of how to use something practically….. i because highly practical.

its nature and nurture in a quantum world. there are no barriers belief cant override.
 
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FraterAC

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Kepler had to worry about the Inquisition
What if Kepler had been a member of a secret society? Secret because freedom of thought was antithetical to the dogma the Office of the Inquisition believed it was defending?

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Monk

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I'm sure you would have great empathy for poor Giordano Bruno, who proposed that the stars were distant Suns surrounded by their own planets and he raised the possibility that these planets might foster life of their own.

At his trial he said:-

"Perhaps you pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than i receive it"......He Knew that the Catholic Church was following Hermetic belief's' They had to get rid of him.

He had an iron spike put through his tongue, so he couldn't talk to the waiting crowd, he was turned upside down, naked, and burned at the stake.

Centuries later secret societies put a statue up in his honour, it isn't by chance that the statue glares across in the direction of the Vatican.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
 

FraterAC

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It wasn't A. Crowley
Who cares?
What makes anyone think I care about Aleister Crowley in the slightest?
If those are the only two words a person can make out of the letters A and C, perhaps they need to examine their own frame of reference and their projections on others.
Meanwhile, I suppose the whole issue of secret societies, and the possibility that they are necessary during times of common prejudice and ignorance, has lost people's interest?

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waybread

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so then….if you include all the millions of fixed stars, all the thousands of asteroids, all the thousands of satellites…in your chart…assuming accuracy of birth hour which you might need to fiddle a bit to get right…..and ask a maths bof like @Monk to run you a Quin simulation in some 3d engineering software….it should look like you.

you possibly can then project your growth through all the points of time…including hair styles!

those with Uranus|| Venus out there…. boy will they look interesting.
Outlook, obviously we have to be judicious about using asteroids. Normally I use only the conjunction with an actual planet, and then there has to be some meaning to the asteroid name itself. I disapprove of using asteroids in such a way that you could make a chart mean anything you want.

But one could say the same thing about fixed stars, which were in widespread use in Antiquity.

The free charts pp. at Astrodienst will calculate quintile aspects for you.

I'm not so much into astro-esoterica, but obviously the number 5 has some very old sacred connotations: the 5-petaled rose; the apple cut across the equator;, the 5-fingered hand; the orbit of Venus; half of the decimal system; the human body with the head, arms, and legs.

You're familiar with the figure described by the 8-year orbital cycle of Venus?
 

waybread

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FraterAC, even a cursory look at Hellenistic astrology primers shows that a lot of astrology of their period was steeped in mystical lore. See, for example, Vettius Valens' mocking the legendary Egyptian scribe Petosiris; Firmicus Maternus on secret Egyptian lore in astrology; and the existence of alternative cultural astronomies in Hermeticism, Neo-Platonism, and Mithraism. Astrologically-informed star lore also figured into ancient Egyptian black magic.

It's a shame that neo-Hellenistic astrologers today have focused so intently on literal horoscope interpretation that they ignore the much, much broader cultural (and metaphysical) context in which ancient astrology flourished. There was also an ancient and very practical kind of star lore that used the sky as a celestial calendar, in the days before printed calendars, to forecast agricultural phenology and the onset and close of the Mediterranean shipping season (cf. Aratus, Hesiod's Works and Days.)

I don't know who is "looking under their beds' about the larger cultural context in which traditional and early modern astrology flourished. One can hardly understand the history of astrology without paying attention to broader cultural themes like Stoicism, Mesopotamian religion, theosophy, and the Golden Dawn.

The Hellenistic astrology textbook authors cautioned their students against practicing their art at street fairs, which apparently was common in the ancient Roman empire. Who knows how these "pop up" astrologers read horoscopes? See also the amazing monograph by Frederick H. Cramer, Astrology in Roman Law and Politics. Ancient astrology was practiced by slaves and even (gasp, shock) by women.

My understanding of the selection of the 25th of December for Christmas, was that, within 3 days of the winter solstice, people could see the days getting longer or-- more easily-- the sun creeping northward at sunrise or sunset. The Jesus who has come down to us has many attributes of the solar or crop god who dies and is reborn. ('the eternal return.")
 

Outlook

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using asteroids in such a way that you could make a chart mean anything you want
heres a thought Waybread….. the presence of satellites is refracting the universal energy just a tad, or even must adding to the electromagnetics received, enough to now obfuscate the human psyche’s pattern and bring into relief or presence, the very aquarian character fuzziness needed. the effect obviously is only visible in those still in the stage of growth because of the attention and focus that goes to youth.

peculiar characteristics would also reflect in our decay cycles but nobody is paying attention to us to notice. or is that what is now so prevalent with rising dementia?

in all life forms really. there is a weakening and obfuscation now going on.

all patterns are affected.
 

Monk

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Outlook, obviously we have to be judicious about using asteroids. Normally I use only the conjunction with an actual planet, and then there has to be some meaning to the asteroid name itself. I disapprove of using asteroids in such a way that you could make a chart mean anything you want.

But one could say the same thing about fixed stars, which were in widespread use in Antiquity.

The free charts pp. at Astrodienst will calculate quintile aspects for you.

I'm not so much into astro-esoterica, but obviously the number 5 has some very old sacred connotations: the 5-petaled rose; the apple cut across the equator;, the 5-fingered hand; the orbit of Venus; half of the decimal system; the human body with the head, arms, and legs.

You're familiar with the figure described by the 8-year orbital cycle of Venus?
Please note Waybread that i reject my Quintiles but some may work, it is said that you have difficulty making all aspects to work from birth, but please note i have tried from what i see, others may see i have tried by my threads on Math.
 

Monk

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Astronomy picture for thread section above is on private members download below. The Jewish start of the day was and is sunset previous to date, therefore we use sunset on 5th January 0004 BC, as Sirius was rising at location by astronomy and parans, projected fixed stars are inaccurate!
Being an Archaeoastronomer, i could have followed this alignment from Persia, but only if i knew DOB before i set out:-
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wilsontc

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All,

This introduction thread has gone far beyond an introduction post and even beyond discussing quintiles in astrology so I have deleted as much non-astrological material as I can find and locked the thread down. If you want to talk about quintiles, start up a a thread in the Aspects forum. If you want to talk about non-astrological things do it in chat.

Back to astrology,

Tim
 
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