Neptune square transits.. how to escape the cloud of confusion

kaminari

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Hi astrologers.. I am just learning of transits..

I noticed that Neptune (26 Aquarius) is now squaring my Moon (25 Scorpio), my Neptune (29 Scorpio) & nearly squaring Venus (22 Scorpio).. (all in the 10th house)..

So this explains why my life is so confusing!!!!! I feel like a lot of my intuition is dead wrong right now.. & does this also explain the confusion over my career (10th house)?

I'm searching for ways to escape this cloud & make sure my life is going in the right direction.. or should I just sit back & wait for the fog to clear before making any major changes in my career?

The one positive is it's near my N. Node (0 Pisces)..

Any advice will be helpful, & how long will it be before it leaves? Am I going to be confused for years??

Peace..
 

Solar_dark

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Hi Kaminari,

I see that you have the same moon and neptune positions (SAME DEGREES!!) though I was born just short of 10 months before you *I didnt think Nepune reentered Scorpio after I was born......I dont have my Moon Neptune conj in the 10th but the pair make a nice trine to my MC so though I cant totally cant say how these interactions are affecting you, I feel we may be on simillar boats..

I think whats important here is to address the fact that along with the current square we are experiencing from Neptune and Jupiter to our natal Moon/Neptune, we are also on the receiving end of a trine from Uranus in Pisces (ruled by both Neptune and Jupiter..)

Neptune square is forcing you to face and claim a fuller expression of your natal Moon Neptune aspect whilst Uranus trine these 2 planets is allowing you inspiration of what these attributes are...

I suspect that the mention of your North Node must be taken into account in this reading. A Pisces NN implies a Virgo SN. Virgo is service/6th house related and here the danger is towards being too methodical and analytical along with the habit of just doing things because its a habit.. (is your Asc in Capricorn or Aquarius?? in either case Saturn in Taurus further implies your need to stick to the tried and tested and this further demands your need for safety and stability.... though if you are an Aquarius Asc, you do have your Uranus Mars conj to call upon..)

Pisces NN implies that you need to try and let go a little and trust your guide... to allow the (strong) currents within you to take you to your own treasures..

With the need for stability and your Moon Neptune in your 10th, are you in a role that you feel is fulfilling? Are you building a career where you feel you are contributing to the big picture and nurturing your Spirit or has the need for convention and safety forced you into a position where you feel that your personal ideologies and dreams are no longer being nurtured? Neptune sq is making you more aware of the discontent you may well be experiencing with reference to 10th house issues (which your Moon Neptune has trained you to perhaps hide through a "smile" (is this your Venus??)..) and Uranus is allowing you to see (and find) options through which you may effectively find a compromise that will allow you to still meet your need for Emotional and Spiritual fulfillment and also your desire for security....

Reading up on the challenge of Pisces NN and Virgo SN individuals may well further help as would contemplation of your Mars Uranus conjunction...

Good luck,
Walter
 
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Lin

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Kaminari,
This is one of the worst transits you'll ever experience. Neptune's influence is one of deception, illusion and confusion, among others, many others.

YOU need to focus on what is real in your life. Your real character, your real values, your real goals, and to stay away from those things that make you stray from reality in a negative way.

Positive expressions of Neptune are music, seeing movies and plays, writing, studying philosophy and religion (not JOINING a religion, STUDYING them.) Stay away from people who lie to you, people who do a lot of drugs and alcohol, people who practice deception on a regular basis, people who try to enlist you into activities that your intuition tells you is not for you.

The square to the moon is horrible and with Jupiter there too, it's hard to trust your feelings now, so don't commit yourself emotionally to ...well, ...anything. Don't invest your money (except that which you won't mind losing), don't sign any long term contracts, remember that all that glitters is NOT gold and if it's too good to be true, it probably isn't.

Be cautious, be a bit cynical....you can allow yourself the things you will be denying yourself NOW, in the future, when Neptune isn't so dangerous. Neptune square Neptune is a "generational" aspect, and all people born around the time you were, sometime for a couple of years, will have your approx. degree of Neptune. In this case it's the HOUSE that counts, and the aspects transit Neptune makes to others planets at the same time which will give you an idea of what is going on.

Neptune trines usually don't count, because in this particular case, with Neptune, Unlike let's say, Saturn or Jupiter, the square is bad but the trine can be just as bad only you won't see it that way because,
"Neptune's job is to confuse you."


When Jupiter changes signs, the Neptune will be alone in that position and it may change a bit, but as long as Neputne is square the moon, and that includes a 2 degree orb as the aspect is separating, it can fool you. You can become addicted to an activity as well as a substance, and you may think you aren't becoming addicted until you try to stop. It's nature is insideous.

Hope this gives you some practical insight into this transit.
LIN
 
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katydid

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I strongly disagree with the statement that this is one of the worst transits you'll ever experience. I know MANY people who had great times with their lessons from Neptune. And saying this also creates a
negative experience from the get go. it does NOT have to be a horrible transit altogether.
I know people who have had amazing spiritual transformations under Neptune squares, and also some who have endured rehab successfully , and gotten clean and sober. Neptune is not a horrible experience
for everyone.
 

kaminari

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Everyone, thanks for your input.. I must agree with Lin in that these last few years have been some of the toughest, & I hope the worst.. But Katydid, I love how you focus on the positive & look at negatives as challenges.. Feeling negative about what happens in my life will just sink me.. perhaps you understand..

This debacle started around late 2002 until now, though not sure how long this current Neptunian influence has lasted or will continue to last.. Until then I slowly built up a successful life & career at a major entertainment company after a life in my twenties as a vagabond "artist/writer" trying various careers unsuccessfully (probably Saturn return influence).. I found the woman I was to marry & I had a job for life in a city (Los Angeles) that loved me..

& suddenly a trip abroad awakened me from the dream & I destroyed my entire life.. seriously.. I was completely sunk, broke & alone..

However, the bright side is that coincidences started to pile up & I started trusting the Universe instead of cursing God.. Since then I've discovered a new spirituality, met some fascinating people, moved to the other side of the planet, & survived.. This time I hope not to "destroy everything" but to find something substantial in this convoluted mess of my life & build on it..

the positives: the amazing woman I recently met.. my rediscovery of art (many in my family are artists & my Mom is an artist & encouraging me to do this).. my new-found interest in getting healthy & lifting weights..

but the difficulties: my band that I've finally gotten moving in a direction.. but it's definitely a Neptunian one with all the "party people" it brings.. my "career" back in science & also doing editing (soooooo boring).. but stable..

But I have many choices.. I think I should start listening to my Mom for once.. ;-) & listen to the advice of my friend & accept my boring job & work hard for now..

One thing I'm worried is that some of my closest "allies" may deceive me & I hope that this is just part of the Neptunian dream & not reality.. I've learned that sometimes the demons are actually angels freeing us & the angels are actually demons keeping us locked in a reality that isn't ours.. So I guess I must just "let it go" as they say..

Walter, I'm Aquarius rising & I'm definitely divided on leaving my "secure" but not so great job.. However, I'm trying to focus on Saturn's influence in my chart.. Recently I used the "equal house" system when analyzing my chart & I'd rather have this be the "correct" one.. with equal houses, 6 of my planets end up in the 10th house & Saturn in the 4th.. this just "feels" right to me..

I think I need to focus on the stability of Saturn's placement yet also find fulfillment in my life in other areas that are positive not destructive.. I hope I'm getting there but am being constantly pulled back into a life of illusion by some nice people but they are bad influences.. I hate to be alone but I'm confused & not sure what to do.. But I know I'm not the only one out there feeling these influences, & astrology has helped me step back & look at what's happening.. become aware of it, aware of the dream.. this is all making sense.. astrology rocks..

thanks so much..
 

kurayami

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Your experience is interesting Kaminari. I'll be moving from Australia to Ireland under a Saturn square Neptune transit. (Neptune is in my 9th house) I'm wondering how it will play out. It actually ceases the aspect about a week before I actually fly out. I'm actually trying to identify the impact of this square over the last nine months.

When the square first started to come in, I just started the first job that I've had in five years and I think it was a bit of a reality check. I found it hard to deal with an almost quit when that aspect exacted. I think that what will likely happen for me in late August and early September is that I'll feel things are too challenging and I will need to decide whether I want to give up my dream or not.

Let's see what happens.
 

cara4art

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I've been having the transiting Neptune(been in 12th since 1998) square my end-of-2nd house Mars. Haven't really been quite able to figure this out appropriate for my situation, as the traditional interps for this seem to indicate getting framed and involved with untrustworthy people, or addiction maybe? I have neither in my life. I am out of the rat race and pursue my art at home, living a very private life in a large city at almost 62. I would say though that I have lots less energy for draining social occasions and the BS that goes along with them, and my natural tendency is to just stay away from them(my husband thinks I should be a LITTLE more social sometimes though!). My natal chart has very little earth in it, mostly air, fire and water in that order, so spiritual things are important as a conduit for my art. I'm not traditional religious at all though.
 

kaminari

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Your experience is interesting Kaminari. I'll be moving from Australia to Ireland under a Saturn square Neptune transit. (Neptune is in my 9th house) I'm wondering how it will play out. It actually ceases the aspect about a week before I actually fly out. I'm actually trying to identify the impact of this square over the last nine months.

When the square first started to come in, I just started the first job that I've had in five years and I think it was a bit of a reality check. I found it hard to deal with an almost quit when that aspect exacted. I think that what will likely happen for me in late August and early September is that I'll feel things are too challenging and I will need to decide whether I want to give up my dream or not.

Let's see what happens.

It sounds like an adventure.. I'm sure everything will work out for you..
 

kaminari

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I've been having the transiting Neptune(been in 12th since 1998) square my end-of-2nd house Mars. Haven't really been quite able to figure this out appropriate for my situation, as the traditional interps for this seem to indicate getting framed and involved with untrustworthy people, or addiction maybe? I have neither in my life. I am out of the rat race and pursue my art at home, living a very private life in a large city at almost 62. I would say though that I have lots less energy for draining social occasions and the BS that goes along with them, and my natural tendency is to just stay away from them(my husband thinks I should be a LITTLE more social sometimes though!). My natal chart has very little earth in it, mostly air, fire and water in that order, so spiritual things are important as a conduit for my art. I'm not traditional religious at all though.

Seems like you've been making money (2nd house) through your art (12th house).. Is that right?
 

cara4art

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I have made money in the past from my art, but I am in a life phase right now where I don't have to, as I've pretty much dropped out of the rat race since my husband and I live very simply and frugally, but well! I work behind the scenes, privately, on my art, and we just got our website back up again after a year of confusion, delays, and stuff just plain not working. But all is good now in that department.
 
Hello Cara,
your website is very nice. I have Neptun through my 12th house too and as I have Saturn 12th house square Neptune 8th house in my natal chart, I experienced Neptune conj, Saturn in 12 and this was then Neptune square Neptune too. As it was in my 12 th house, it happened through my phsysical body, I was sick long time, sleeping the whole day, and I was not interested in any contacts. There were a lot of confusion in decision making, I have made some decisions I wouldnt do this in this manner now. Material world was just from another planet. NOw I have Neptune at my Sun and AC at the end of the 12th house and this is not better but I hope it will pass as the square transit passed. could be that your art will become much more spirituell or etherical with this transit. all the best
love A29
 
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