Natal Chart for My boyfriend (because I don't understand him)

Victoria Rose

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Hi All,
Will someone please help me interpret my boyfriend's chart? He is so cold and hard to get to know. Yet at the same time, there is something about him that is so loving. I can't place my finger on it. I guess I know he loves me because he puts up with me complaining about his coldness and he promises that he will change (though he hasn't yet).

he has many friends and is very outgoing but oddly, no one really seems to know him too well. He even pushes me away and is pretty much non existent but, in an odd way, he is very attached to (gets upset when I dont show him affection). He just seems to distrust eveyone- as if he doesn't want anyone getting to close.I am wondering, is this to be expected from someone with his planetary alignments? Also, how faithful can I expect someone with his planets to be?

Thanks in advance. I just really want to understand him. I'm a tarot reader but even I don't know if the way he acts is a result of upbringing or planetary alignments.






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kanshu

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You should post your chart as well. By the way, it would be better to just insert an image in your post using the link you posted (which by the way has the wrong link with the right text).

But just guessing from this one info, if you are either a Libra and Aquarius, you'd have a natural conflict with the Taurus. If you are a Gemini, there's also that possibility if you do not share Mercury and Venus.

As a rule, Taurus and earth signs are very practical people. If you are somehow frivolous, you may be offending their sensibilities. And also, any talk/discussion of anything conceptual or radical will not go well with Taurus. They are more accustomed to simple concepts that work.

You should also know that Taurus is the sign of agriculture. So, it's a good idea to imagine the Taurus native as a farmer when talking to him about something.
 
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Victoria Rose

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Thanks for the tip, Kanshu :). I had never posted a chart into a forum before so please forgive me. Anyway, the first chart is my boyfriend's chart and the 2nd one is mine. Yes, I try to be as patient and to the point with him as I can. I think maybe it might help that my moon is Taurus, too?

EDIT: Wow, after looking at our chart side by side, mine looks really weak compared to his. Does that mean I am the weaker half (personality wise)? I have no clue how to look at charts, I just notice his has bolder colors and seem to encompass more areas.

His Chart is the first chart. Mine is the second chart.



 
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NicholasH

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i have friends who have their sun conjunct their north node, and i've found them to be all over the place. But, when they are around/present with me they are very amazing, life changing people.

i couldnt tell you why though. search natal sun conjunct natal north node.
 

freedomlover

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EDIT: Wow, after looking at our chart side by side, mine looks really weak compared to his. Does that mean I am the weaker half (personality wise)? I have no clue how to look at charts, I just notice his has bolder colors and seem to encompass more areas.

The colors are just due to different settings on AstroDienst. You obviously used a different style for each somehow.

As to you being the weaker half, astrology-wise..... the way I'm looking at it - it's the other way around, at least communication-wise, which is what I assume you mean by "stronger personality". The better communicator is the stronger, personality-wise, of the two, imo.

Mars in Scorpio is the ruler of your 3rd house, and in the 3rd house. I would say that makes you a very strong communicator. Mercury in Taurus is also your Asc. ruler, although not sure what the 8th house will add to or subtract from that.

You also have Sun in Aries exactly conjunct Eris in the 7th house. To me, this would signify a very strong communicator who can hold her own in debate- knows how to compete and win. ( or this may be what you are to learn).

He has Sun in Taurus ruling his third, which might make him be the type to be slow and deliberate and cautious in his communication. Although he may have trouble balancing this with his Asc. ruler - Mercury in Aries in the 11th.

(Btw, both of your Mercuries are exactly semi-sextile. Semi-sextiles can often denote a "blind spot" type of thing.)

Mars in Cap rules his 6th house of daily work, and with Moon in Virgo in the 4th, and Neptune in Capricorn in the 7th conjunct his Mars... he may have trouble relating to a female as other than a servant. (Your Jupiter conjuncts his Mars/Cap) He may be the type that wants to do everything for you, buy you stuff, but have trouble with the emotional closeness - just being together-communication sort of relationship. This combo can also denote he sets very high standards for himself - can be a perfectionist, and afraid he doesn't measure up. This, too, was probably learned at home, or in religion in childhood.

He also has Uranus in Sag smack on his Dsc... this can signify communication problems, as well.

There are an awful lot of strong earth sign connections between the two of you. Be careful that materialism isn't sneaking in to sabotage somewhere. (Unless you are both very "green", which would be the higher vibration of them.)

Your boyfriend is also pretty much lacking in water - other than his Jupiter in Pisces conjunct Vesta in the 10th. However, Jupiter rules his 7th, so he has the capacity for much compassion and emotional connection. The downside of this is that he may feel he has to sacrifice who he is in order to have closer relationships - a victim mentality, so he may cut himself off and pull back emotionally.

With 10th house Jupiter in Pisces, and Moon in Virgo in the 4th in loose opposition- he may have had problems with mother or being mothered as a child - perhaps a lack of compassion, or being worked too hard.

Just some possible interpretations....
 

Victoria Rose

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i have friends who have their sun conjunct their north node, and i've found them to be all over the place. But, when they are around/present with me they are very amazing, life changing people.
I believe it. He is very much the center of the party with his friends. When I first met him, he was very vibrant, happy, and I thought he'd be a lot of fun. The more I got to know him (one on one) the more he turned into how I described. I would have never guessed he would be so critical, cold, and unemotional (except when angry or he wants something, then he is a child).

i couldnt tell you why though. search natal sun conjunct natal north node.
Thanks, will do.
 

Victoria Rose

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Thank you, Freedomlover, for your response!

Mars in Scorpio is the ruler of your 3rd house, and in the 3rd house. I would say that makes you a very strong communicator. Mercury in Taurus is also your Asc. ruler, although not sure what the 8th house will add to or subtract from that.

You also have Sun in Aries exactly conjunct Eris in the 7th house. To me, this would signify a very strong communicator who can hold her own in debate- knows how to compete and win. ( or this may be what you are to learn).

Yes, this is true. I really try not to argue, though. I think my aversion to arguing is probably why we don't fight that much, anymore. However, I think I am better at debating than he is.


He tries to pick fights with me when he's mad but sometimes, I'd lose my temper on him and just say pretty awful things which is why he probably tries to get me passive aggressively now.

He's pretty argumentative with everyone else, though. I think it makes him feel smart. He has this thing for needing me to tell him how smart he is. He friends are constantly telling him how smart he is.

He loves nothing more when I "admit" that he has outsmarted me or when I indulge him and tell him "you've got a point. How can I argue that?" Most of the time, he didn't really outsmart me, but I just want him to stop.


He has Sun in Taurus ruling his third, which might make him be the type to be slow and deliberate and cautious in his communication. Although he may have trouble balancing this with his Asc. ruler - Mercury in Aries in the 11th.
I can see that! He is definitely a walking contradiction. He's funny. He does tend to blurt things out then when pressed he starts to stall. Like he regrets saying too much and wants to backtrack.


(Btw, both of your Mercuries are exactly semi-sextile. Semi-sextiles can often denote a "blind spot" type of thing.)

Mars in Cap rules his 6th house of daily work, and with Moon in Virgo in the 4th, and Neptune in Capricorn in the 7th conjunct his Mars... he may have trouble relating to a female as other than a servant. (Your Jupiter conjuncts his Mars/Cap).
I cant give feedback on the semi-sextile thing is (I have to look it up-haha) but you are really right when you say he sees women as below him. He is open about his sexist views with me but tries to hide it in front of everyone else. He thinks girls are dumber and only wants them around, it seems to do things for him. I thought it was just his home environment since his brother his sexits, too. Actually, so is his cousins and friends.


He may be the type that wants to do everything for you, buy you stuff, but have trouble with the emotional closeness - just being together-communication sort of relationship. This combo can also denote he sets very high standards for himself - can be a perfectionist, and afraid he doesn't measure up. This, too, was probably learned at home, or in religion in childhood.
This must be something I will see when we start to get along. As of now, he doesnt seem to want to buy me stuff or do things for me. Its more like he wants me to buy him stuff and do things for him. He is a giant baby.


He also has Uranus in Sag smack on his Dsc... this can signify communication problems, as well.
This is very true. He is a great talker but when it comes to sharing his true emotions, he isnt very effective.


There are an awful lot of strong earth sign connections between the two of you. Be careful that materialism isn't sneaking in to sabotage somewhere. (Unless you are both very "green", which would be the higher vibration of them.)
he is very materialistic. I used to be, too, but now I value financial security much more :)


Your boyfriend is also pretty much lacking in water - other than his Jupiter in Pisces conjunct Vesta in the 10th. However, Jupiter rules his 7th, so he has the capacity for much compassion and emotional connection. The downside of this is that he may feel he has to sacrifice who he is in order to have closer relationships - a victim mentality, so he may cut himself off and pull back emotionally.
this is helpful! You know I always am accusing him of being insensitive. I think he knows he is, too. I didn't know showing feelings was so taxing on him.


With 10th house Jupiter in Pisces, and Moon in Virgo in the 4th in loose opposition- he may have had problems with mother or being mothered as a child - perhaps a lack of compassion, or being worked too hard.

Just some possible interpretations....
He does have an overbearing mother but he loves her. She seems very sweet but maybe he didnt feel he got enough of the love he needed growing up? My mom is very sweet now but growing up, I thought she was cold. Thank you so much for helping me, Freedomlover. You are very good. You know, I am looking to purchase a few books:

Astrology: Understanding the Birth Chart | Kevin Burk
Astrology| Jeff Mayo

Have you any experience with these books? Again, thank you so much!
 

kanshu

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May I suggest you download the trial version of the Astrology for Lovers software at World of Wisdom (click here). Then, input both your information and print the report. Better if you print the report to PDF so you will have a digital copy because the trial version can only print once. (By the way, it's been a long time now since I used their software so I'm not sure if this is still the case. But it's worth trying. They have really nice looking and colorful charts.)

Then, copy and paste here what the interpretation is in that report. You can also copy the chart on the screen to the clipboard so you will have a nice looking JPEG of the chart.

I'm suggesting this because I'm apprehensive giving my interpretation of your charts since it may affect your relationship. It's good if we can help. But what if we can't? So, let's look at what the author of the software has to say.
 
The charts would have been much easier and clearer to read if you left off the specs of dust (asteriods).

You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Looking at the boyfriend's chart then Jupiter is in 9th mercury 10th sun 11th venus 11th conj 12th houe cusp. Initially the really lacks the element of air but to compensate has 4 (maybe 5if you count moon 3rd) in air houses...

When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately..

If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html

Now his venus and moon are trine from 11th to 3rd houses (air houses= communications) Next we look at his 7th house and he has mars, neptune and urnaus opp Asc and Saggi/Jupiter ruling the cusp. Jupiter is in 9th and he may be attracted to foreign or could meet a partner whilst travelling even.

I have uranus directly opp Asc square moon (like this man does) and was not even aware how this aspect played out until my first divorce --- issues to with freedom and independence (actually it was betrayal and I wanted the divorce due to his infidelity). So yes - he does have the divorce aspect. He also saw his mother IF your TOB is correct as a worrier and may well have had sudden or early break with her in teenage years. Whilst virgo/saggi are 'mutable' signs Saggi usually is quite late for settling down and does need extra freedom and independence within relationships.

Sun opp pluto could show a problem relating to father from childhood. Uranus is Apex to T square so anything crossing Asc will create a 'Grand Square' and internal tension leading to changes. I don't see uranus opp Asc as a problem as communications, although 'other people' may think he has. His mercury (planet of communications) is however the most challenged planet with square to mars =argumentative, square neptune thoughts speech not always in sync, words don't always come out as intended from the brain.

Mercury Quincunx (Inconjunct) Pluto

The compulsive side of your nature may lead you into being way out of control. Your judgment on circumstances (as well as yourself and others) can be so severe that you aren't able to make intelligent and consistent progress in life. Strive to be more trusting and less strict with yourself and your life is easier.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html
Venus Quincunx (Inconjunct) Uranus

Learning to let go of the past means being willing to release relationships you have outgrown. Further, you need to reevaluate the way you imprison yourself in mindless routines, then revolt against them. Different is not improvement necessarily, yet change is integral to development. Learning to abruptly alter circumstances without emotional turmoil is the way of growth. You need freedom through relationships, not freedom from relationships.

He also has Uranus in Sag smack on his Dsc... this can signify communication problems, as well.
I would look more directly at his challenged mercury not uranus. Uranus doesn't want boring 9 to 5 it wants a bit of stimuls or 'bad boy' excitement and his moon square uranus suggests he may be attracted to women for excitement. could even want to do 'unusual, different things' to feed his emotional, intuitive nature.

His venus in 12th is the main problem here-- he could also be capable of secret affairs and keep the 'venus inside' ie: romantic and emotional nature
Venus in the 12th House
You are big on romance and you tend to live and breathe your partner once you�re hooked. Not the best at defining your boundaries�where your needs and your partner�s needs separate�you can get hurt in love rather easily. You can also feel used quite readily. You are attracted to people from all walks of life, finding a partner who has an unusual background or quirky personality most attractive. Partners who mistake your compassion for weakness can take advantage of you. Being openly affectionate and trusting often doesn't seem safe to you. You may feel your love won't be appreciated or reciprocated.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html

His Moon opp Jupiter shows his is capable of going over the top emotionally, as jupiter in pisces/water always wants to make sacrifices
 

Victoria Rose

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May I suggest you download the trial version of the Astrology for Lovers software at World of Wisdom (click here)....

Then, copy and paste here what the interpretation is in that report....
I'm suggesting this because I'm apprehensive giving my interpretation of your charts since it may affect your relationship. It's good if we can help. But what if we can't? So, let's look at what the author of the software has to say.

I could see why you are apprehensive. We are a complete clash. Below is how I supposedly make him feel. The chart categories are in bold and my comments are italicized

Romances and Riches:
This contact shows a very strong bond between you, evoking a great tenderness and affection. Home and family may be the centrepiece of your life together. You feel instinctively that j would make a good parent - tolerant and caring. There is no doubt that the relationship evokes a great sense of belonging though there are dangers that this can lead to over-dependence and a smothering relationship. You simply feel comfortable with j, experiencing a bond of affection which goes far beyond logic. She is very sensitive to your needs and is capable of giving you constant emotional support.
Yours is a very romantic relationship indeed - perhaps you prefer to consider yourself more of a lover than a partner. j is at least captivated by your charms, which bring the satisfactions and erotic spices of the harem into your relationship. Your values and aesthetic judgement enhance the quality of life of your partner, who allows you to dictate whatever style you deem fit for mutual satisfaction. She evokes the loving qualities within you and you respond by bringing good grace and refinement into the time you spend together. You have a strong need for expressions of affection - both emotionally and materially - and j is always willing to please.

Perhaps this is the only reason why we haven't separated yet.

Eros and Enterprise
There is a lot of conflict in this relationship, partly because both of you feel the need to assert yourselves. However there cannot be two cocks ruling the roost, so you would be well advised to back down when a conflict of wills arises. j often handles disagreements with more dignity than you.
whilst you tend to get defensive and hit below the belt, she is more inclined to be magnanimous.

which I mentioned earlier


If you can channel your energy and dynamism into external projects which mobilise you positively, conflict can be avoided. This is a working relationship - idleness sows the seed of discontent. While your impulsiveness is disturbing for j, you often get irritated by her pompous style.

I guess I can see that. We don't really like to see ourselves as pompous but I do have an ego at times. That must irritate him

This contact brings a lot of emotional conflict and this is related to your lack of ability to tune in to and respect the moods of your partner. Perhaps you feel threatened or provoked by her weakness or vulnerability, perhaps you wish to signal that you dislike anyone being dependant on you. Whatever the case, when j gets moody you become impatient and irritated. It is essential for you to control your temper if you want a long-term harmonious relationship. It is no use proposing solutions in connection with the emotional life of your partner, if you do not truly understand what moves her. If you do not have the patience to understand her feelings - and it is no use forcing yourself - it is better to go off on your own for a while and burn off some of your energy.

maybe that is why he is never around


There are strong ideological differences between you and this can result in long discussions about matters of principle. You may find this stimulating - and it can be if you keep a sense of perspective and humour. You are looking for an intellectual capability in j which she obviously has (otherwise you would not be with her) but which you constantly challenge.

Yes, I do feel as if he bates me into arguments a lot. Even when I don't even feel like being in an argument. And we do have major differences in our life's views. I think a lot of he does goes against what I think is "proper." I'm old fashioned. I think people should act with dignity constraint when they have a good time. I would never do anything I wouldn't want my future kids doing. He is the opposite. I'm actually have embarrassed and half repulsed by his actions. I've told him this repeatedly.

Unconsciously you tend to set up situations in which she fails to live up to your expectations and this results in j pontificating and you rebelling against her supposed intellectual authority. Nevertheless you can expect the relationship to be exciting, with a good deal of travel and adventure. There is a considerable sexual appetite - many differences of opinion are resolved this way - yet there are often moral dilemmas connected with your sexual life. You enjoy challenging the norm.

This is very true. I feel lots of times that he puts unrealistic expectations on me. I've even accused him of setting me up to fail. I know I said he avoids me, but now that I think of it, I have avoided him in the past, as well.


It is not easy for you two to work constructively together. Misunderstandings abound because you tend to go into action with an unclear idea of what is required, and because j is very vague about what she actually wants. Your energy is diverted unproductively, and often into morally questionable areas.

Like, I said earlier. He makes me feel uncomfortable at times.


Strive to maintain high standards - together you tend to cut corners in ethical matters. It is no use looking to her for leadership or direction. Choose your own course. You get bogged down in discussions. Do not be deceived - she gets confused when confronted by your dynamism, and reacts by clogging up the works or by suggesting goals which are completely over-idealistic or unrealistic. Sexual harmony is also elusive as j often finds your desires too earthy and longs for a "spiritual" union. This too is illusory; development of greater body-consciousness would help you both. Health matters may be in the forefront. Be aware that alcohol and other addictions have a negative effect on this relationship.

This is true. He likes to drink. A lot. I feel he is a danger to himself and to others. I have tried to get him to tone it down but he won't listen. So I gave up and then he accuses me of not caring.


Warmth and RespectAlthough this is not a major factor in your relationship you may often be disturbed by unpredictable actions and events precipitated by j. This can be very interesting and stimulating for you but also rather unsettling. You will not be permitted to indulge in self-satisfaction - she wants to provoke change in you.

I am not really sure what that first part means. I guess that means I spring stuff out of (what seems like to him) no where. Which is true. I have a lot of ideas and I feel that by sharing them I am being helpful. And I do try to change him for the better. He knows he is destructive. His family thinks I am a good influence and he knows it, too (he admits it) yet he still fights me.


This can be a consciousness-raising factor in your life together but there would be more harmony if you were accepted as you are. Clashes of style and personality arise in which you feel quite threatened, as j tends to make it clear that she will not accept any limitations just because you are together and may demonstrate this point quite dramatically through alarming displays of independence.

This is true. I have told him lots of times that I hold him to the same standards that I have hold everyone else. And when he disrespects me then tries to invite me to spend time with him, I refuse.


If you were born within a year or so of j you will find yourself projecting your own tendency to lurch from crisis to crisis onto her. Whatever the age difference this will be an intense relationship, often based on issues of power and powerlessness. Avoid battles of will - which j will win because she is not frightened, as you are, of contemplating the destruction of the relationship if matters really should come to a head.
Actually, I am worried about breaking up.

She tends to evoke a ruthless self-analysis from you which can be exhausting for you both. Actually you awaken a deep insecurity in her, to which she responds by reversing the tables, keeping you off-balance. Avoid practising mutual therapy on each other.

I think maybe this is the cause of all our problems


The analysis has some good qualities but I think our negative ones far outweigh the positives. This is most unfortunate because I do like Michael but I can see the relationship is so challenging. With all of these negativities, I am surprised we made it this far. I think the whole thing boils down to, I have a hard time accepting who he is.
 
Kanshu
But just guessing from this one info, if you are either a Libra and Aquarius, you'd have a natural conflict with the Taurus. If you are a Gemini, there's also that possibility if you do not share Mercury and Venus

Libra and taurus have the same ruler/venus so a kinda mutual reception is going on here. Aquarius is square to taurus and sometimes 90' can suggest stimulation, excitement:rightful:

Need to see a synastry bi wheel from astro for proper chart comparisions

Looking at the female chart, Neptune conj MC --- age 3 did someone die, disappear or poss have some mysterious illness? (using solar arcs) confusion, sacrifices made for family members. Your chart lacks the air elements or planets in air houses except just your sun. Your moon opp mars suggests you have a bossy mother. Your uranus acts as singleton cos it only has one aspect trine to sun, pluto isn't much better with just opp to merc and sextile to neptune.

Your venus is square neptune suggesting romantic disillusionment. Saturn quincunx sun suggests a problem with father or authority figures insomuch as they don't quite understand your core beliefs, drive and energy. Plus have aries sun in house of libra will make you more restless, procrastinating or maybe you just attract those types. Virgo's are born worriers to. Plus if your TOB is correct moon in 9th you could live abroad or get involved with a foreigner...

Sun Quincunx (Inconjunct) Saturn

It is easy for you to take on responsibilities that aren't yours while ignoring ones that are. Because you work hard and aren't always recognized or compensated for it, you often "run out of steam" before your work is done. Your life works best when you learn to take care of your most important responsibilities first.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Synastry, your moon is conj his venus, his sun/node is conj your mercury which is excellent to. max orb is 3' which i use.
His mars is conj your jupiter -- mix
 
Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....
 

Victoria Rose

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Thanks Astrologer!

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Looking at the boyfriend's chart then Jupiter is in 9th mercury 10th sun 11th venus 11th conj 12th houe cusp. Initially the really lacks the element of air but to compensate has 4 (maybe 5if you count moon 3rd) in air houses...

When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately..

If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html

Thanks, I will look more into this.


Now his venus and moon are trine from 11th to 3rd houses (air houses= communications) Next we look at his 7th house and he has mars, neptune and urnaus opp Asc and Saggi/Jupiter ruling the cusp. Jupiter is in 9th and he may be attracted to foreign or could meet a partner whilst travelling even.

I have uranus directly opp Asc square moon (like this man does) and was not even aware how this aspect played out until my first divorce --- issues to with freedom and independence (actually it was betrayal and I wanted the divorce due to his infidelity). So yes - he does have the divorce aspect. He also saw his mother IF your TOB is correct as a worrier and may well have had sudden or early break with her in teenage years. Whilst virgo/saggi are 'mutable' signs Saggi usually is quite late for settling down and does need extra freedom and independence within relationships.

I estimated the TOB based on his ascendant sign. However, what you said does fit. He loves to travel. I'm foreign to him. I could see why he was attracted to me (even though we didnt meet in a foreign land) but I could also see him finding someone else. And yes, he does see his mom as a worrier!


Sun opp pluto could show a problem relating to father from childhood. Uranus is Apex to T square so anything crossing Asc will create a 'Grand Square' and internal tension leading to changes. I don't see uranus opp Asc as a problem as communications, although 'other people' may think he has. His mercury (planet of communications) is however the most challenged planet with square to mars =argumentative, square neptune thoughts speech not always in sync, words don't always come out as intended from the brain.
yes, its funny you say that. When we argue (when I am fed up and want to fight back) I noticed he gets to flustered in arguments. He is too emotional in arguements so he doesnt get to say what he clearly wants to say.


Mercury Quincunx (Inconjunct) Pluto

The compulsive side of your nature may lead you into being way out of control. Your judgment on circumstances (as well as yourself and others) can be so severe that you aren't able to make intelligent and consistent progress in life. Strive to be more trusting and less strict with yourself and your life is easier.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

This fits me too a T. I am very rigid. My friends call me neurotic. My former pschiatrist said I was compulsive. Yes, Mike drove me to the point where I felt I needed to get medicated.


Venus Quincunx (Inconjunct) Uranus

Learning to let go of the past means being willing to release relationships you have outgrown. Further, you need to reevaluate the way you imprison yourself in mindless routines, then revolt against them. Different is not improvement necessarily, yet change is integral to development. Learning to abruptly alter circumstances without emotional turmoil is the way of growth. You need freedom through relationships, not freedom from relationships.
agreed. I have a hard time letting go of old relationships. I think its because I put so much effort into making them work in the first place.


I would look more directly at his challenged mercury not uranus. Uranus doesn't want boring 9 to 5 it wants a bit of stimuls or 'bad boy' excitement and his moon square uranus suggests he may be attracted to women for excitement. could even want to do 'unusual, different things' to feed his emotional, intuitive nature.
haha, he is an accountant. It really doesn't fit him, though. He does try to restrain himself and pass as "conventional" but you could tell he wants more excitement. I think that is why he does the crazy things he does and even why he keeps me around. We fight, but I am definitely not boring. I don't even know what I am going to do next.


His venus in 12th is the main problem here-- he could also be capable of secret affairs and keep the 'venus inside' ie: romantic and emotional nature
This is true. He has a whole secret life going that he doesn't seem to want me to know about. He tries to claim its because I just disapprove of what he thinks is fun (i.e drinking) and I am out of touch with kids our age. Other times, he tries to say that I wouldn't be interested, anyway so why bore me? I'm not dumb. I think he is being shady but I figured, since I'm always calling and texting, if he is trying to have another girlfriend, he wouldn't get very far. I never considered the casual affairs.


Venus in the 12th House
You are big on romance and you tend to live and breathe your partner once you�re hooked. Not the best at defining your boundaries�where your needs and your partner�s needs separate�you can get hurt in love rather easily. You can also feel used quite readily.



You are attracted to people from all walks of life, finding a partner who has an unusual background or quirky personality most attractive. Partners who mistake your compassion for weakness can take advantage of you. Being openly affectionate and trusting often doesn't seem safe to you. You may feel your love won't be appreciated or reciprocated.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html [/quote]
Yes, I do take an interest in my partners and genuinely enjoy them. I am also pretty selfless but I dont express myself fully becasue I dont want to be left vulnerbale.


His Moon opp Jupiter shows his is capable of going over the top emotionally, as jupiter in pisces/water always wants to make sacrifices

This makes sense. He throws temper tantrums a lot. It would make sense that he is able to reign that in and show more positive emotions, too.

Thank you, Astrologer! You are an immense help to me. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your great talent with me.
 

Victoria Rose

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Kanshu


Libra and taurus have the same ruler/venus so a kinda mutual reception is going on here. Aquarius is square to taurus and sometimes 90' can suggest stimulation, excitement:rightful:

Need to see a synastry bi wheel from astro for proper chart comparisions

Looking at the female chart, Neptune conj MC --- age 3 did someone die, disappear or poss have some mysterious illness? (using solar arcs) confusion, sacrifices made for family members. Your chart lacks the air elements or planets in air houses except just your sun. Your moon opp mars suggests you have a bossy mother. Your uranus acts as singleton cos it only has one aspect trine to sun, pluto isn't much better with just opp to merc and sextile to neptune.
Funny you mention that. My brother was born when I was 3 and my life changed. He became my mom's favorite. Before it was me ( I guess, although according to my dad, my mother disciplined me excessively). Also, when I was about 5 years old, I had to attend a lot of family funerals. It was at that age that i learned about death. It was traumatizing. And you are so right, I am somewhat of a loner. People and other kids liked me, but I prefer my own company. I still do (although, oddly enough, I have friends).


Your venus is square neptune suggesting romantic disillusionment.
Yes. when I meet someone, I tend to idealize them. Then when I get to know them I get disappointed. Now I just expect to be let down.


Saturn quincunx sun suggests a problem with father or authority figures insomuch as they don't quite understand your core beliefs, drive and energy. Plus have aries sun in house of libra will make you more restless, procrastinating or maybe you just attract those types. Virgo's are born worriers to. Plus if your TOB is correct moon in 9th you could live abroad or get involved with a foreigner...
Yes, my TOB is correct. I specifically copied it from my birth certificate for this purpose-lol. I do worry a lot. I feel like I should be moving around, too. My dad and I get along now. I enjoy him because we have lots in common but growing up, I despised him.


Sun Quincunx (Inconjunct) Saturn

It is easy for you to take on responsibilities that aren't yours while ignoring ones that are. Because you work hard and aren't always recognized or compensated for it, you often "run out of steam" before your work is done.
So true.


Your life works best when you learn to take care of your most important responsibilities first.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Synastry, your moon is conj his venus, his sun/node is conj your mercury which is excellent to. max orb is 3' which i use.
His mars is conj your jupiter -- mix

I am not sure what synastry means but I'm going to look that up. You gave me so many excellent links that there is no excuse for me not to get out there and learn. Thank you :)
 

kanshu

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Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

I think she just posted the report generated by Astrology for Lovers software from World of Wisdom. The text seems familiar.
 

Victoria Rose

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Plus if your TOB is correct moon in 9th you could live abroad or get involved with a foreigner...
I forgot to mention, yes, I could see this! My mom is from the Philippines so we go there quiet often. I like it there a lot and plan to retire there.
Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.
I will try this out next . To be honest , though, I already feel so discouraged. I feel as if Michael and I are just torturing ourselves by being together.

And yes, Kanshu, I used Astrology For Lovers for the interpretation (as you had advised :) ). The natal charts in the thumb nails were from astro.com, though.
 
I forgot to mention, yes, I could see this! My mom is from the Philippines so we go there quiet often. I like it there a lot and plan to retire there.

I will try this out next . To be honest , though, I already feel so discouraged. I feel as if Michael and I are just torturing ourselves by being together.

And yes, Kanshu, I used Astrology For Lovers for the interpretation (as you had advised :) ). The natal charts in the thumb nails were from astro.com, though.

You can't really do a composite if you don't know his TOB unfortunately.

haha, he is an accountant. It really doesn't fit him, though. He does try to restrain himself and pass as "conventional" but you could tell he wants more excitement. I think that is why he does the crazy things he does and even why he keeps me around. We fight, but I am definitely not boring. I don't even know what I am going to do next.

I said, "Uranus doesn't want boring 9 to 5 it wants a bit of stimuls or 'bad boy' excitement and his moon square uranus suggests he may be attracted to women for excitement. could even want to do 'unusual, different things' to feed his emotional, intuitive nature."

There's a difference between 'work' and 'relationships' which I was commenting on. Virgo rising love to pay attention to details and work behind the scenes and you do find an awful lot of them in banking, finance and accountancy industries though. :innocent: :innocent:
 

Victoria Rose

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You can't really do a composite if you don't know his TOB unfortunately.



I said, "Uranus doesn't want boring 9 to 5 it wants a bit of stimuls or 'bad boy' excitement and his moon square uranus suggests he may be attracted to women for excitement. could even want to do 'unusual, different things' to feed his emotional, intuitive nature."

There's a difference between 'work' and 'relationships' which I was commenting on. Virgo rising love to pay attention to details and work behind the scenes and you do find an awful lot of them in banking, finance and accountancy industries though. :innocent: :innocent:

haha, so is it safe to say he is too much of a philander to settle down? I'm glad I know this ahead of time before I become even more invested.
 
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