My Mars is HUGE!

C0rnholio

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My Mars is big, red, and really HUGE these days (T Mars conj Sun). It's ENORMOUS. It is also a leg of my cardinal T-Square with the Uranus in the opposition and Mercury at the apex. The "empty" leg is in Capricorn, and in 2-4 years I will have a T Pluto in there to form a cardinal Grand Cross for a few years.

The problem with the cardinal T-Squares is keeping the planets working together and not shooting independently in different direction. And it's true, once I have a challenge or a goal, there is no stopping me. But no challenges make my life quite boring. So, my question is... in order to be "aware" of the "missing leg"... should I build a house?

It would be my second house because I would also have to fix up and sell my current one. But fixing it up with no deadline or a guaranteed buyer does not inspire me at all. I am thinking, if I make it appear challenging, should I build and fix up two houses at once?The T Pluto will help me get rid of the unnecessary stuff in 1-2 years when it hits my I.C. But I do not want to sit still and wait for stuff to happen. So... is getting into the housing stuff a good idea for my chart at this time? Thanks! :)
 
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My Mars is big, red, and really HUGE these days (T Mars conj Sun). It's ENORMOUS. It is also a leg of my cardinal T-Square with the Uranus in the opposition and Mercury at the apex. The "empty" leg is in Capricorn
take you just braggin here :wink:

What tends to happen with T Squares is a transit, progression or SA comes along and makes a temporary 'Grand Square' which really does create conditions for you to make big changes, mostly internal through frustration.

External events seem to be more indicative of the Angles, So pluto onto IC could be both, external and psychological

Transits
astro.com has fee six month transit forecast plus when you get into Extended chart selection, look at the three tabs after calculating a chart under ‘method’ default is circular wheels (on left), middle is special charts and in their you get graphic ephemeris 1yr (or 5years) with natal = transits for 1yr and lots more. BUT you first must learn or memorise the 'glyphs' ie: shorthand for recognising what these maps/graphics mean.

For example when you post or reply to a chart the 'smilies' to the right and just under them [more] if you click on there it will bring up a whole loads of 'glyphs' :mercury:Mercury :uranus:Uranus :conjunct:conjunction (+or - 8') :trine:trine aspect 120' :libra:Libra

http://cafeastrology.com/transits.html
http://cafeastrology.com/transits_2.html
http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_fh_transits_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_transits_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2009.pdf
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/oct2009gmt.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php
 

Lin

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First, I have to study these charts before giving you a practical answer.

But I have a question out of curiosity....how did you end up in Michigan? If it's not too personal.

Next, working on one's life is not always about the material, or exteriors...sometimes it's internal work. Sometimes it's behavioral. Sometimes it's spiritual. If you always use actions to deal with internal dynamics and impulses, maybe you need to look at your life a bit differently at this moment intime, especially because of Saturn into Libra situation.
I'll get back to you,
LIN
 
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C0rnholio

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I wish I were bragging. But I am not. This Mars is really IN YOUR FACE these days. My natal Mars makes only one nice aspect in my chart, and it is with my Saturn. All other planets cry uncle when this Mars is active. I stay at work til 9pm, then I drive home and stay up running the business and studying astrology til 4:30am (when the neighbor postal worker leaves for work), then I catch a snooze for 3 hours, and back to work. I wish I was tired so that I could crash and fall asleep, but I am not even tired physically, only mentally. I am so hyper that I cannot even drink anything caffeinated as of 3-4 weeks ago, not even ice tea. No extra addrenaline is needed. This Mars is beating on my Mercury pretty hard, keeping my mind occupied. Also, gone is the Neptunian fog in the 3rd house that I complained about two months ago. The 7th house of personal relationships is scorched dead.

I found this description of this t-square very accurate:
http://www.therealastrology.com/HTML/FAQS/AspectPatterns.html#T-Square

"The Cardinal T-Square is by far the most active of the T-Squares, but it is not necessarily the most productive. The challenge with this pattern is to get the three planets to work together rather than each going off and doing their own thing. An awareness of the empty leg and house can provide some much needed balance and guidance for a Cardinal T-Square. Once all of the planets are pointed in the right direction, as it were, taking action and moving forward is automatic. The hardest part is learning to control the impulsiveness of the Cardinal planets long enough to get them to work together."

So I was wondering what it would take to "align" those planets to work together. Somehow I do not believe any meditation about the empty leg in Capricorn would work. Hence, I was thinking that maybe I should start some housing projects.
take you just braggin here :wink:
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Transits astro.com has fee six month transit forecast plus when you get into Extended chart selection, look at the three tabs after calculating a chart under ‘method’ default is circular wheels (on left), middle is special charts and in their you get graphic ephemeris 1yr (or 5years) with natal = transits for 1yr and lots more.
Thanks, A50 for the good links! That graphic ephemeris is really useful! I used the numeric ephemeris before
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm, and also changed the dates and clicked back and forth on the natal with transits charts, but this graphic ephemeris is a clear winner!

A50, I like your Sagittarian approach to Astrology. May I call you AK-50? Because you are way more effective that the AK-47.

I think the transiting True Node (whatever this thing is) is triggering my Grand Cross right now. The T Pluto won't be there for a good decade, but other planets will.
 
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C0rnholio

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First, I have to study these charts before giving you a practical answer.

But I have a question out of curiosity....how did you end up in Michigan? If it's not too personal.

Next, working on one's life is not always about the material, or exteriors...sometimes it's internal work. Sometimes it's behavioral. Sometimes it's spiritual. If you always use actions to deal with internal dynamics and impulses, maybe you need to look at your life a bit differently at this moment intime, especially because of Saturn into Libra situation.
I'll get back to you,
LIN
Thanks, Lin! I moved to Michigan to work with cars. There were/are no decent automotive engineering jobs in Russia. Turns out I moved to fulfill my natal 11th house Sun's aspirations and 3rd house goals (Sagittarius, commute, transportation) of getting a great job in the auto industry. I do auto testing and research, my Venus in Virgo in the 12th loves it. Mars likes to do smoky tire burnouts. There is a trine from my Neptune and Moon to my relocated M.C. I indeed have a dream job here.

I have looked inside myself and done a lot of work already. I do that constantly, check out my multiple Moon aspects. I will have the rest of the lifetime to look inside me when my progressed Mars turns retro in 6 years in the 8th house in Taurus. Right now it appears to be a good time to act and be productive.
 
The "empty" leg is in Capricorn, and in 2-4 years I will have a T Pluto in there to form a cardinal Grand Cross for a few years.

This T of pluto will be approx 20 odd years off in very late Cappi -- so why worry so far in advance??

Anything between 19' -28' cardinal will 'set off' this T square into a grand square. Your chart has lots of oppositions which really aren't as bad to handle as the squares,then your Jupiter in 6' Aquarius helps out this T Square, by overtalking (opp Merc) being confident in actions (jupiter squ mars)

Jupiter’s expansive activities are easily overdone. When the planet is in disharmonious relationship with the Sun, ­representing the ego, we are inclined to lay great emphasis on Jupiter‑Sun characteristics, and run the risk of indulging in unfounded optimism, unrealistic idealism, bragging and an ­inordinate love of freedom. We shall probably attempt too much and take some pretty hard knocks, but our indestructible ­enthusiasm and buoyancy usually see us through. When we learn a measure of self‑control, we can gain much from these energetic and enterprising aspects.

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Mars opp Uranus = Bad Temper Clumsiness, accident prone. May enjoy being provocative

The tense aspects are the most difficult to live with, we find it extremely hard to curb energy (Mars) because Uranus keeps it under constant tension. Strained and restless, we easily become irritable and quick tempered. The ( often ­unintentionally) disruption caused by this combination is great, hence its traditional association with separation and divorce. Reactions are usually too sharp, too rash, too thoughtless and too energetic in situations which call for calm. Also, with these aspects, we are inclined to go our own way at all costs and this can cause conflicts at school when we are still young. Whenever possible we do as we please, and being prevented from doing as we please drives us wild (to an extent that depends on the rest of the chart). In any case we enjoy being provocative.

As with all the oppositions it's just a learning curve for 'balance' and once learned we can all change our actions in accordance with what we have learnt to be a better balanced individual.:innocent:
 
Just noticed your mars is 'sextile' to saturn, not trine aspect. Sextile need bit of effort and are considered opportunities if you put the effort in to structure (saturn) 9th house matters. That considering you seem to need to keep your mind occupied, by reading, writing, studying, learning. With such an active mind you could do well as teaching Cancer MC is very shrewd in business and good with money and your moon is in 3rd house another house of communications/mind but conj neptune which suggests intuitively receiving communications and sextile to Asc suggests you can project that emotional subjective response sympathetically.

Mercury so challenged espec by mars and uranus can be too quick to comment, be mentally argumentative if bored. So my advice, keep the mind occupied do more phsyical energy sports, gym, running to help tire the body and lots of reading studying, learning, teaching....

You have a few Quintile aspect worth researching, cos they can represent a hidden talent.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13644&highlight=quintiles
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5485&highlight=quintiles
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10143&highlight=quintiles
 
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C0rnholio

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then your Jupiter in 6' Aquarius helps out this T Square, by overtalking (opp Merc) being confident in actions (jupiter squ mars)

Yes, thank you, I am very goal oriented, and I usually achieve those goals. The problem is I just need good goals. I am somewhat out of goals at this time.

Mars opp Uranus = Bad Temper Clumsiness, accident prone. May enjoy being provocative
Yes, this is very true, especially about enjoying being provocative. The bad temper, clumsiness, and accident proneness are not extreme. My temper problems happened only in grade school, my clumsiness is only in communication, and I am not much more accident prone than an average guy.

Cancer MC is very shrewd in business and good with money
Yes, I do own a business, and I like to borrow money! :)

So my advice, keep the mind occupied do more physical energy sports, gym, running to help tire the body and lots of reading studying, learning, teaching....
Yep, thanks, I do it already, just need to workout more, of find a sport that I like. And I need more good goals.

You have a few Quintile aspect worth researching, cos they can represent a hidden talent.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13644
Yes, I my whole chart is shaped like a pentagon, but I only have 2 tight bi-Quintiles: Mars-Neptune and Jupiter-Saturn. Thanks you for the link, I had no idea what those bQ meant!!! It's amazing, this Mars-Neptune bQ works exactly like a Mars-Neptune trine for me, and it is a very active aspect for me! I would call it a sexual intimacy talent and helping people with relationship problems talent.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/mars-trine-neptune.php
I spend a good part of my life doing these things, yet I haven't been able to pin-point them on my chart before. But here they are, spelled out for me.

Also, my Ceres is conjunct my Neptune, so Mars bQ them both. Makes a lot of sense now.

And this Jupiter-Saturn bQ is also just like a trine or a sextile, which I didn't know I had!!!
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/jupiter-trine-saturn.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/jupiter-sextile-saturn.php

Perhaps this is what I am doing now, using my Jupiter-Saturn bQ to think if I want to start a housing project. Amazing! You can be such a sharp shooter, AK-50! Thank you for the great new info! :D
 
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