My chart, who do you think I was in my past lives?
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Phoenix Venus
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hey, i'll take a look if you are still interested.
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Phoenix Venus
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You have a very interesting chart with ceres/sun inconj pluto and merc and pof conj mc 
The venus placement is also artistic.
Okay, so the first thing I’ll look at in relation to past lives is the nodes. I notice venus is square the nodes and that means that maybe past lives had to do with love/relationships in some way.
Symbols from dane rudhyar’s “An Astrological Mandala”
South node at 9.01 gemini:
" AN AIRPLANE PERFORMING A NOSE DIVE.
KEYNOTE: A superior ability to challenge nature and play with danger.
Through the controlled use of mental powers man is able to challenge the most basic force in nature: gravitation. He enjoys playing with it as a lion tamer with his violent animals. But what he challenges is within himself as well as outside. Gravitation is the universal binding force of the material world. By challenging it man prepares himself to pierce beyond the physical and to reach higher realms of existence. He may lose the struggle, but that prospect makes the effort more exciting. He might gain "immortality."
This is the final stage of the fourteenth sequence. The symbol for it has a strong sense of finality. No possibility of half measures exist. Man is committed irrevocably to success or failure — at least as a conscious and self-reliant mind. The alternatives are clear-cut. One may describe it as MIND vs. MATTER, or as Man's will against the fate that gravitation so aptly symbolizes. "
Interesting symbol and I will note it has some relation to astrology by talking about the invisible binding forces of the world. This shows that you were dedicated towards true knowledge in your past life. IT also shows that you were someone who had a fearless attitude towards pursuing your goals.
I also have to point out your natal mercury here at 15.50 (pic is wont magnify I can‘t read it very well?) Aries:
"NATURE SPIRITS ARE SEEN AT WORK IN THE LIGHT OF SUNSET.
KEYNOTE: Attunement to the potency of invisible forces, of nature.
In the light of personal fulfillment (symbol of sunset and wisdom) man may be able to establish a life-giving contact with natural forces. These are active any time growth processes take place, but man's individualized mind is usually too focused on working for consciously set goals to be able to realize concretely the presence of invisible (or "occult") forces in operation. These forces constitute a specific realm of any planetary life. They are inherent in all "biospheres," on whatever planet. They are non-individualized and un-free energies forming in the substratum of all life processes - thus of the process of integration at the level of the planet-as-a-whole, i.e. the planet as an organism with its automatic systems of growth, maintenance and organic multiplication. In this planetary organism those nature forces act as guiding and balancing-harmonizing factors - somewhat as the endocrine system does in a human body, and behind this system the more occult web of chakra energies related to prana - the solar energy. It is when this energy becomes less dominant - thus symbolically at sunset - or when the body energy is weakened by illness, fasting or sensory deprivation, that it becomes easier to perceive these "nature spirits" and to give them forms that symbolize the character of their activities. These forms differ with the cultural imagery of each human collectivity, retaining nevertheless some basically similar characteristics.
When this Sabian symbol reaches into the consciousness of a man seeking meaning, it should be seen as an invitation to open his mind to the possibility of approaching life in a holistic and nonrational, intuitive manner.
This is the first stage of the fourth five-fold sequence of cyclic phases. It implies a call to REPOTENTIALIZATION. What this means also is the process of "becoming like a little child." "
And your POF at 19.10 (?) aries;
"
A YOUNG GIRL FEEDING BIRDS IN WINTER. KEYNOTE: Overcoming crises through compassion.
Nature's seasonal rhythms imply an oscillation between living and dying. Through creative imagination man can "fly over" the cycle, and discover means not only to escape from the fatality of seasonal decay or deprivation, but to assist other living entities to survive through crises. Migrating birds fly south (cf. symbol of Aries 12°), but by establishing a partnership with other creatures unable to escape wintry deprivation or death, man can maintain the life of the spirit (symbolized by birds) steady through all crises if, like a "young girl," he is widely open to the promptings of love and sympathy.
At this fifth stage of the symbolic sequence we witness human activity motivated by sympathy overcoming the seasonal phase of impotency. Life potency in nature spirits reaches a higher level in the human being. The theme is THE TRANSMUTATION OF LIFE INTO LOVE.
"
So you might be able to see that your karmic lessons deal with enlightening your own mind through commitment towards truth in love.
The square to venus shows that your karmic lessons will be closely tied with others.
Venus @ 10.1? Pisces
"MEN TRAVELING A NARROW PATH, SEEKING ILLUMINATION.
KEYNOTE: The capacity inherent in every individual to seek at whatever cost entrance to a transcendent realm of reality.
This refers to the ancient and eternal symbol of the Path of Discipleship. The greatness of man is that he can always be greater; and the belief — deeply rooted in men's inner nature — that if he fulfills the necessary conditions he can find "Elder Brothers" who have already attained a higher level of consciousness and will transfer their attainment and light to him. The Path is always open to the pure in heart, the mentally aware, the conqueror of emotions and the spiritually self-mobilized.
This symbol opens the sixty-ninth five-fold sequence and a new level of consciousness. Man is always in the making and remaking. He can always go further, reach beyond. But he has to take the first step. Someone can show him the Path, but he alone can do the walking. Thus the Zen injunction: WALK ON. "
Wow. You have shown dedication in your life towards truth and light. thus it is part of your current journey to find those who can offer to walk by your side. Mutual care and sharing of assets and understanding will allow both you and them to step further towards love.
still have a couple points to address, namely the parts of current life and past incarnation. Coming shortly
The venus placement is also artistic. Okay, so the first thing I’ll look at in relation to past lives is the nodes. I notice venus is square the nodes and that means that maybe past lives had to do with love/relationships in some way.
Symbols from dane rudhyar’s “An Astrological Mandala”
South node at 9.01 gemini:
" AN AIRPLANE PERFORMING A NOSE DIVE.
KEYNOTE: A superior ability to challenge nature and play with danger.
Through the controlled use of mental powers man is able to challenge the most basic force in nature: gravitation. He enjoys playing with it as a lion tamer with his violent animals. But what he challenges is within himself as well as outside. Gravitation is the universal binding force of the material world. By challenging it man prepares himself to pierce beyond the physical and to reach higher realms of existence. He may lose the struggle, but that prospect makes the effort more exciting. He might gain "immortality."
This is the final stage of the fourteenth sequence. The symbol for it has a strong sense of finality. No possibility of half measures exist. Man is committed irrevocably to success or failure — at least as a conscious and self-reliant mind. The alternatives are clear-cut. One may describe it as MIND vs. MATTER, or as Man's will against the fate that gravitation so aptly symbolizes. "
Interesting symbol and I will note it has some relation to astrology by talking about the invisible binding forces of the world. This shows that you were dedicated towards true knowledge in your past life. IT also shows that you were someone who had a fearless attitude towards pursuing your goals.
I also have to point out your natal mercury here at 15.50 (pic is wont magnify I can‘t read it very well?) Aries:
"NATURE SPIRITS ARE SEEN AT WORK IN THE LIGHT OF SUNSET.
KEYNOTE: Attunement to the potency of invisible forces, of nature.
In the light of personal fulfillment (symbol of sunset and wisdom) man may be able to establish a life-giving contact with natural forces. These are active any time growth processes take place, but man's individualized mind is usually too focused on working for consciously set goals to be able to realize concretely the presence of invisible (or "occult") forces in operation. These forces constitute a specific realm of any planetary life. They are inherent in all "biospheres," on whatever planet. They are non-individualized and un-free energies forming in the substratum of all life processes - thus of the process of integration at the level of the planet-as-a-whole, i.e. the planet as an organism with its automatic systems of growth, maintenance and organic multiplication. In this planetary organism those nature forces act as guiding and balancing-harmonizing factors - somewhat as the endocrine system does in a human body, and behind this system the more occult web of chakra energies related to prana - the solar energy. It is when this energy becomes less dominant - thus symbolically at sunset - or when the body energy is weakened by illness, fasting or sensory deprivation, that it becomes easier to perceive these "nature spirits" and to give them forms that symbolize the character of their activities. These forms differ with the cultural imagery of each human collectivity, retaining nevertheless some basically similar characteristics.
When this Sabian symbol reaches into the consciousness of a man seeking meaning, it should be seen as an invitation to open his mind to the possibility of approaching life in a holistic and nonrational, intuitive manner.
This is the first stage of the fourth five-fold sequence of cyclic phases. It implies a call to REPOTENTIALIZATION. What this means also is the process of "becoming like a little child." "
And your POF at 19.10 (?) aries;
"
A YOUNG GIRL FEEDING BIRDS IN WINTER. KEYNOTE: Overcoming crises through compassion.
Nature's seasonal rhythms imply an oscillation between living and dying. Through creative imagination man can "fly over" the cycle, and discover means not only to escape from the fatality of seasonal decay or deprivation, but to assist other living entities to survive through crises. Migrating birds fly south (cf. symbol of Aries 12°), but by establishing a partnership with other creatures unable to escape wintry deprivation or death, man can maintain the life of the spirit (symbolized by birds) steady through all crises if, like a "young girl," he is widely open to the promptings of love and sympathy.
At this fifth stage of the symbolic sequence we witness human activity motivated by sympathy overcoming the seasonal phase of impotency. Life potency in nature spirits reaches a higher level in the human being. The theme is THE TRANSMUTATION OF LIFE INTO LOVE.
"
So you might be able to see that your karmic lessons deal with enlightening your own mind through commitment towards truth in love.
The square to venus shows that your karmic lessons will be closely tied with others.
Venus @ 10.1? Pisces
"MEN TRAVELING A NARROW PATH, SEEKING ILLUMINATION.
KEYNOTE: The capacity inherent in every individual to seek at whatever cost entrance to a transcendent realm of reality.
This refers to the ancient and eternal symbol of the Path of Discipleship. The greatness of man is that he can always be greater; and the belief — deeply rooted in men's inner nature — that if he fulfills the necessary conditions he can find "Elder Brothers" who have already attained a higher level of consciousness and will transfer their attainment and light to him. The Path is always open to the pure in heart, the mentally aware, the conqueror of emotions and the spiritually self-mobilized.
This symbol opens the sixty-ninth five-fold sequence and a new level of consciousness. Man is always in the making and remaking. He can always go further, reach beyond. But he has to take the first step. Someone can show him the Path, but he alone can do the walking. Thus the Zen injunction: WALK ON. "
Wow. You have shown dedication in your life towards truth and light. thus it is part of your current journey to find those who can offer to walk by your side. Mutual care and sharing of assets and understanding will allow both you and them to step further towards love.
still have a couple points to address, namely the parts of current life and past incarnation. Coming shortly
Phoenix Venus
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Your Part of past life: asc + Jup - Sat: Libra 1.17
[ibid]
"THE TRANSMUTATION OF THE FRUITS OF PAST EXPERIENCES INTO THE SEED-REALIZATIONS OF THE FOREVER CREATIVE SPIRIT.
KEYNOTE: A repolarization of inner energies leading to a creative centralization of consciousness.
The original formulation of this symbol was both "occult" and, I believe, confusing; "The light of the sixth Race transmuted to the seventh." It could be interpreted in terms of the process of mankind's development through the seven great Races (or evolutionary periods) outlined in the second volume of H. P. Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, but there are no other symbols in the series having such a frame of reference. What seems more likely to be implied in the revealed image is a reference to the numerological and occult meaning of Number 6 and Number 7, especially geometrically expressed in the diagram (on page 32) in which seven circles, contiguous and of the same size, fill a larger circle whose diameter is three times that of the smaller one. The six circles touching the circumference of the larger one represent the six basic approaches to Truth and Reality possible to man's developing intelligence — thus the well-known Six Schools of Hindu
philosophy, and at the level of energy the six fundamental colors, or "Rays." But central to this six-fold system is the hidden or occult "Seventh," the Atma Vidya of Hinduism, the unformulatable Truth of the Self which both includes and transcends the six approaches. Schools or Rays.
Number 6 (also Solomon's Seal) represents the synthesis of descending spirit and ascending matter. It represents the fruition of all past efforts; within the six-fold fruition the seed may be found, the seventh. Outer activity is fulfilled (the Six Days of Creation in the first chapter of Genesis); and the Supreme Actor can be seen in His changelessness and therefore his transcending all-inclusiveness.
All that was manifested in the plant is gathered in the hidden seed, which in due time becomes the foundation of a new cycle of existence. The fruit decays. For a brief moment the released seed may be seen; this is the "seventh" period that becomes the creative power fathering a new cycle. This symbol for Libra 2° refers to the process of centralization in the Self (the creative Reality) after the experience of fulfillment in the perfect Form of manifestation.
This is the second stage of the thirty-seventh five-fold sequence of symbols and phases. It refers to a dynamic process in contrast to the picture representing the first stage — a picture of maintained and immortalized, thus static, perfection of form. Formal perfection is now transcended through a process of CREATIVE CENTRALIZATION. "
[ibid]
"THE TRANSMUTATION OF THE FRUITS OF PAST EXPERIENCES INTO THE SEED-REALIZATIONS OF THE FOREVER CREATIVE SPIRIT.
KEYNOTE: A repolarization of inner energies leading to a creative centralization of consciousness.
The original formulation of this symbol was both "occult" and, I believe, confusing; "The light of the sixth Race transmuted to the seventh." It could be interpreted in terms of the process of mankind's development through the seven great Races (or evolutionary periods) outlined in the second volume of H. P. Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, but there are no other symbols in the series having such a frame of reference. What seems more likely to be implied in the revealed image is a reference to the numerological and occult meaning of Number 6 and Number 7, especially geometrically expressed in the diagram (on page 32) in which seven circles, contiguous and of the same size, fill a larger circle whose diameter is three times that of the smaller one. The six circles touching the circumference of the larger one represent the six basic approaches to Truth and Reality possible to man's developing intelligence — thus the well-known Six Schools of Hindu
philosophy, and at the level of energy the six fundamental colors, or "Rays." But central to this six-fold system is the hidden or occult "Seventh," the Atma Vidya of Hinduism, the unformulatable Truth of the Self which both includes and transcends the six approaches. Schools or Rays.
Number 6 (also Solomon's Seal) represents the synthesis of descending spirit and ascending matter. It represents the fruition of all past efforts; within the six-fold fruition the seed may be found, the seventh. Outer activity is fulfilled (the Six Days of Creation in the first chapter of Genesis); and the Supreme Actor can be seen in His changelessness and therefore his transcending all-inclusiveness.
All that was manifested in the plant is gathered in the hidden seed, which in due time becomes the foundation of a new cycle of existence. The fruit decays. For a brief moment the released seed may be seen; this is the "seventh" period that becomes the creative power fathering a new cycle. This symbol for Libra 2° refers to the process of centralization in the Self (the creative Reality) after the experience of fulfillment in the perfect Form of manifestation.
This is the second stage of the thirty-seventh five-fold sequence of symbols and phases. It refers to a dynamic process in contrast to the picture representing the first stage — a picture of maintained and immortalized, thus static, perfection of form. Formal perfection is now transcended through a process of CREATIVE CENTRALIZATION. "
So it says the fruition of past efforts, formed into creative centralization. So your pastlife was the SEED life in which a new series of evolutionary patterns unfolded into your being. This is the spiritual quest. You might have been someone who learned spiritual practices. You might even have been of the hindu faith, given that this symbol mentions that.
Current life: Asc + Sat - Jup: Gemini 11.13
"A NEGRO GIRL FIGHTS FOR HER INDEPENDENCE IN THE CITY.
KEYNOTE: Liberation from the ghosts of the past.
While "newly opened lands" theoretically offer virgin fields for experience, in fact those men and women who reach them find themselves conditioned by their own past. They carry the ghosts of their former lives and the memories of collective social patterns with which they had identified their egos. Every new beginning is surrounded with ghosts (or personal and social karma). The racial struggle for equality of opportunity must go on, even if this equality is officially guaranteed by the Law. The struggle is within and takes many forms. The Puritans brought to the theoretically "New World" the fears, the fanaticism and the aggressiveness of their European existence, and these often grew more virulent under the conditions found in the New World. But no field of activity is ever totally "virgin." It has its inhabitants, and they cling to their possessions or privileges. Whoever seeks to be truly an individual must be liberated from the past.
Here at this second stage we have the usual contrasting type of symbol. The new lands are opened, but they are filled with lives, and the pioneer's mind filled with ghosts, preconceptions, and prejudices or expectations. What is needed is a total LIQUIDATION of the past; virgin minds for virgin fields. "
So your past efforts allowed you to take a spiritual and creative outlook in your previous life, possibly a solitary lifestyle. This lifetime is back to focusing on your role in society. It's about releasing past patterns and facing the demons in order to truly ascend from them.
Current life: Asc + Sat - Jup: Gemini 11.13
"A NEGRO GIRL FIGHTS FOR HER INDEPENDENCE IN THE CITY.
KEYNOTE: Liberation from the ghosts of the past.
While "newly opened lands" theoretically offer virgin fields for experience, in fact those men and women who reach them find themselves conditioned by their own past. They carry the ghosts of their former lives and the memories of collective social patterns with which they had identified their egos. Every new beginning is surrounded with ghosts (or personal and social karma). The racial struggle for equality of opportunity must go on, even if this equality is officially guaranteed by the Law. The struggle is within and takes many forms. The Puritans brought to the theoretically "New World" the fears, the fanaticism and the aggressiveness of their European existence, and these often grew more virulent under the conditions found in the New World. But no field of activity is ever totally "virgin." It has its inhabitants, and they cling to their possessions or privileges. Whoever seeks to be truly an individual must be liberated from the past.
Here at this second stage we have the usual contrasting type of symbol. The new lands are opened, but they are filled with lives, and the pioneer's mind filled with ghosts, preconceptions, and prejudices or expectations. What is needed is a total LIQUIDATION of the past; virgin minds for virgin fields. "
So your past efforts allowed you to take a spiritual and creative outlook in your previous life, possibly a solitary lifestyle. This lifetime is back to focusing on your role in society. It's about releasing past patterns and facing the demons in order to truly ascend from them.
The Ram
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Yes, love was a very prominent theme in my past lives with Venus squaring the nodes. My 5th house stellium that includes my SN with Scorpio on the 5th house cusp reinforces that as well. On that level atleast it's made my current life a bit tricky since my romantic life in this life hasn't lived up to my past. I know that in this life detatchment is one of my big lessons (Aquarius on the 7th and 8th house cusp) so maybe that's why that is. Also the rulers of my 7th and 8th house: Saturn and Uranus are both retrograde... so maybe that will come later.
I noticed with the symbols that a few of mine are the beginnings or endings of various cycles. This is interesting since my Sun is on the cusp of Aries/Pisces and in my Chinese astrology my year 84 was the start of a new 60 year cycle. Endings are really the only things I ever remembered in a concrete way in my past lives: being burned to death and buried alive. This life though is supposed to be a new start and a lot of things have just fell into place. From what I've learned so far my higher self is suposed to incarnate in this life, by Uranus opp Uranus.. I really hope it happens sooner, maybe Uranus trine Uranus which is pretty close to now.
I noticed with the symbols that a few of mine are the beginnings or endings of various cycles. This is interesting since my Sun is on the cusp of Aries/Pisces and in my Chinese astrology my year 84 was the start of a new 60 year cycle. Endings are really the only things I ever remembered in a concrete way in my past lives: being burned to death and buried alive. This life though is supposed to be a new start and a lot of things have just fell into place. From what I've learned so far my higher self is suposed to incarnate in this life, by Uranus opp Uranus.. I really hope it happens sooner, maybe Uranus trine Uranus which is pretty close to now.