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<blockquote data-quote="Ukpoohbear" data-source="post: 1048677" data-attributes="member: 55674">Thank you Aquarius for taking the time to analyse Marilyn's chart. I have not noticed before the ruler of her 4th is in her 8th house of anguish and conjunct Uranus. The Saturn in 4th is very telling of somebody who always felt she was always alone, even with the Moon-conjunct Jupiter in the 7th.Here are some quotes where Marilyn speaks of her loneliness:&quot;Starting tomorrow I will take care of myself for that’s all I really have and as I see it now have ever had.&quot;&quot;“I have always been deeply terrified to really be someone’s wife since I know from life one cannot love another, ever, really.”&quot;on the screen of pitch blackness comes/reappears the shapes of monsters my most steadfast companions … and the world is sleeping ah peace I need you—even a peaceful monster.&quot;- <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/marilyn-monroe-201011" target="_blank">https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/marilyn-monroe-201011</a>I think, along with the Venus-Neptune, even though her prominent Neptune caused her drug issues, which eventually killed her, I love that the Neptune is in Leo, which was the glamour girl era! And hers being in the first and aspecting her Venus, her most elevated planet. Venus is in fall but I have heard fallen planets have to 'work harder' and in Aries, it could probably signify how her sexuality pushed boundaries (not to mention her Lilith at Leo 29 in the 1st house too).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ukpoohbear, post: 1048677, member: 55674"] Thank you Aquarius for taking the time to analyse Marilyn's chart. I have not noticed before the ruler of her 4th is in her 8th house of anguish and conjunct Uranus. The Saturn in 4th is very telling of somebody who always felt she was always alone, even with the Moon-conjunct Jupiter in the 7th. Here are some quotes where Marilyn speaks of her loneliness: "Starting tomorrow I will take care of myself for that’s all I really have and as I see it now have ever had." "“I have always been deeply terrified to really be someone’s wife since I know from life one cannot love another, ever, really.” "on the screen of pitch blackness comes/reappears the shapes of monsters my most steadfast companions … and the world is sleeping ah peace I need you—even a peaceful monster." - [url]https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/marilyn-monroe-201011[/url] I think, along with the Venus-Neptune, even though her prominent Neptune caused her drug issues, which eventually killed her, I love that the Neptune is in Leo, which was the glamour girl era! And hers being in the first and aspecting her Venus, her most elevated planet. Venus is in fall but I have heard fallen planets have to 'work harder' and in Aries, it could probably signify how her sexuality pushed boundaries (not to mention her Lilith at Leo 29 in the 1st house too). [/QUOTE]

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