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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ukpoohbear" data-source="post: 1048661" data-attributes="member: 55674">Thank you Elena for looking at Marilyn and Joe's synastry! How amazing is it that she became glued to her identity of Marilyn and that asteroid happens to be conjunct her Sun! I searched the asteroid Norma and it is conjunct her Chiron too <img src="https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/styles/smilies/surprised.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprised:" title="Surprised    :surprised:" data-shortname=":surprised:" /> Joe is my favourite out of Marilyn's 3 husbands.' There is a famous picture of him looking heartbroken at her funeral, that pain can be felt astrologically in your finding of her asteroid Marilyn conjunct his Mercury in the 12th house, ruler of his 7th.It is  well-known he sent a dozen roses to Marilyn's graveside every week for 20 years. Marilyn had previously requested this from Joe during their short marriage after hearing the story of her heroine Jean Harlow, who died at 25 years old.It's interesting the Sun is in 11th house in the composite because there's was a very public relationship but there was conflict because Joe was already retired when Marilyn was just beginning to reach the peak of her career. This can be seen with the oppositions coming from the 5th house in Uranus. But they remained live-long friends and cared for each other a lot, which can be seen from Venus conjunct Jupiter in the 5th also.It is also known he was violent to her though. We can see the tendency for abrupt emotions with his Sag Venus conjunct Mars in the 1st house squaring the Moon. There is a famous story that while Marilyn was modelling the famous New York subway grate photo (one of the most famous photos of the 20th century), where her white dress got blown up with the wind of a passing train, that Joe grew enraged with the sound of the jeering crowd and stormed off. When Marilyn got back to her hotel room, they allegedly got into a violent altercation. Her movie studio, who did not want to see their most bankable star become disfigured, ordered she divorce him immediately. She chose not to tell the press this though and recommended one of her therapist's to him to deal with his anger, which he completed and which was quite a big deal for a traditional macho Italian sport's man to do. He always thanked her for it.In Marilyn's chart, even though she craved security with Saturn in 4th, her childhood had effected her in such a way that she could not be the settling down type. She was married to the public with Moon conjunct Jupiter in the 7th house, and opposing Neptune in the 1st shows her unstable nature. Add to that her Moon conjunct Uranus in 8th, it just adds to her lack of settling down nature. Although Joe always held a torch for her, he had become used to her ways and instead reconciled to be her best-friend, which shows the maturity compared to his earlier years. Marilyn's nature was probably a big catalyst to teach him to learn to 'let go' and be less controlling.Joe repaid her for helping him with his anger. In the late 50's, after Marilyn had divorce her third husband, the playwright Arthur Miller, she had confided to one of her psychiatrist's that she had contemplated throwing herself out of the window of her New York apartment. Her psychiatrist recommended a 'respite' at a hospital called the Payne Whitney, which Marilyn agreed to and signed the papers for. However, when she got there, she was escorted to a concrete cell and her request's to communicate with anybody from the outside world her refused. Her psychiatrist who had prior agreed to meet up with her the next day, didn't show up and her ex husband Arthur Miller, refused to see her. One of the doctor's told her she was a 'very, very sick girl' and had been a 'very. very sick girl for a very long time.' The Doctor did not seem to understand that mentally ill people could still have a life, even though Marilyn pointed out to him former stars like Charlie Chaplin who still worked and were known to be mentally ill. Eventually, after 3 days, she managed to persuade a nurse to contact Joe for her, who flew over to the hospital as fast as he could and threatened to break down the walls of the hospital 'brick by brick,' unless they released her. Not wanting the bad publicity, the hospital agreed and they let her go. Joe then flew her over to Florida for a holiday, but Marilyn never recovered from the trauma of being locked up. It was one of her greatest fears because her Mother had been permanently locked up.Here is an article containing information from a letter Marilyn wrote during her stay at Payne Whitney- <a href="https://www.redbookmag.com/life/news/a44140/marilyn-monroe-letter-auction/" target="_blank">https://www.redbookmag.com/life/news/a44140/marilyn-monroe-letter-auction/</a>Marilyn and Joe when they first started dating<img src="https://i.ibb.co/RTTBBmc/marilynandjoe2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Marilyn and Joe on their wedding day<img src="https://i.ibb.co/2sX6F1n/marilynandjoe.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> Newly released from the Payne Whitney hospital and relaxing at the beach during their Florida holiday.<img src="https://i.ibb.co/6FKWN6L/marilynjoebeach.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Joe on the day of Marilyn's funeral<img src="https://i.ibb.co/6vJBnfV/joemarilynsfuneral.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

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