Marilyn Monroe

ElenaJ

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Neptune continues to weave its web of illusion and deception.

The new film about Marilyn, "Blonde".
Whatever were they thinking to make it?

 

david starling

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Neptune continues to weave its web of illusion and deception.

The new film about Marilyn, "Blonde".
Whatever were they thinking to make it?


Neptunian deceptions, in this "best of all possible worlds" trap we're caught in, are of the "too good to be be true" variety.

For the nightmare scenarios like in this "Blonde" flick, look to the Mars/Saturn configurations.
 

Ukpoohbear

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Considering the whole conspiracy about the Kennedy’s having MM murdered, I don’t think this is much further of a stretch. It’s a movie is based on a fictional novel, so it is never meant to be a portrayal of truth.

I’ve been looking forward to watching the movie for over a year when I first heard about it. I’ll see if I like it when I see it but it’s not meant to be a realistic portrayal, but a fictional depiction.

And yes, Neptune has completely over-taken any notion of truth about MM, but I guess it what keeps her memory alive, even if the memory becomes further removed from truth. As soon as the conspiracy theories about the Kennedy brother’s started in the 70’s, the truth was long gone.

She was a brave survivor of a traumatic childhood who sadly died of a drug overdose. The horary I did corroborates death by OD.
 

Ukpoohbear

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Neptunian deceptions, in this "best of all possible worlds" trap we're caught in, are of the "too good to be be true" variety.

For the nightmare scenarios like in this "Blonde" flick, look to the Mars/Saturn configurations.

Interesting David, MM has a grand water trine in Saturn Scorpio 4th, Mars Pisces 8th and Pluto Cancer 11th, which fits the public’s obsession with her death theme. The configuration makes even more sense that Pluto is conjunct the NN in 12th house.
 

david starling

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Interesting David, MM has a grand water trine in Saturn Scorpio 4th, Mars Pisces 8th and Pluto Cancer 11th, which fits the public’s obsession with her death theme. The configuration makes even more sense that Pluto is conjunct the NN in 12th house.

Given a choice, the public is all too willing to believe the worst. That's what sells tickets.
 

blackbery

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Neptune continues to weave its web of illusion and deception.

The new film about Marilyn, "Blonde".
Whatever were they thinking to make it?


Wow, this is vile & disgusting. Definitely :neptune:deception.
The family cannot even sue the company into oblivion as t hey use 'creative license' to get away with this cr*p!
How horrible to smear the name of JFK, a true Patriot who was ruthlessly murdered.😌😌

You only have to look at MM chart to know that she was the one that pursued men & probably women too.
:venus::aries::sextile: :jupiter:. She was like a hunter looking for 'prey' which is how :venus::aries: acts, being both Cardinal & primitive.
There is no refinement like :libra:, it's pure physical sex she wanted & she wanted it a lot! She had sex with everyone & anyone,
probably hundreds. In today's world, she would be classified as a sex addict & would need help dealing with it.
Back then, any man would take up the opportunity to have sex with her & she used that throughout her short life to get what she
wanted. She wanted JFK & pursued him, when he moved on, his brother Robert took over & became infatuated with her.
JFK warned his brother that she would have that effect on him, using her sexuality to bring RFK into a passionate affair
with him. Robert's :sun::saturn::mars::scorpio: don't take things lightly & he almost threw away his career & legacy if it had been
exposed that he was having an extra-marital affair.
That's where the false & fake rumours began that the Kennedys had something to do with her death. They did go over
there (Robert, his secret service) after her death to collect her diary & otfher personal papers that might show that both
Kennedy brothers had an affair with her. (JFK was very brief, he was a sex addict too & had hundreds of women).
They did not want it ever to go public. Of course, we all know it now due to books written & collaborated but at the time, it
would have been a big smear against the family.

MM used sex to fill the void left in her by that :moon::opposition::neptune: which left her without a strong identity. She never knew her familyf,
never had a stable childhood & it's no wonder she changed her name & her appearance.
But that :moon::square::saturn:left an even bigger hole in her heart with a lack of maternal love. She tried to compensate with fame, sex
& drugs but nothing except maturity & wisdom could help her fill the sense of isolation & abandonent.
Perhaps having a child could have soothed her soul but she wasn't able to bear children due to numerous abortions & that
devastated her.

She made bad decisions, sought fame which did not help, used sex to fill the black hole but in the end, the addiction to drugs
killed her as they did with so many actors, musicians, etc.

Slandering JFK's name to make a buck only reveals how low some people will go. Even MM would be sickened by this
horrible movie. With that :moon::jupiter::aquarius: she would be horrified to know that the movie portrays such propaganda & lies.
While they claim it's not true, many who watch it will believe the rape smear. Unless you have discernment or knowledge
of facts, people will believe any bulls*** the media put out there!☹️☹️☹️
 

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david starling

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That’s a shame because with all the Kennedy conspiracy and drama, the tale of a brave fighter Norma Jeane who succumbed to her childhood demon’s and died of a drug OD is all but forgotten.

I’m still interested in watching the movie though because I have no expectation’s of it beyond just being a movie probably.

The JFK haters will eat it up!
 

ElenaJ

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"While they claim it's not true, many who watch it will believe the rape smear. Unless you have discernment or knowledge
of facts, people will believe any bulls*** the media put out there!☹️☹️☹️"

This is the problem. By making it a pseudo story of Monroe's life, whoever watches the movie can't sift the true from the false.
The rape by JFK will become "true fact" in the eyes of many who see the film. Similar to "I read it in the papers so it must be true!".
"If they put it in the film it must be fact".

This is smearing the legends of both JFK and Monroe.
He was a well-known womaniser, but no one ever accused him of sexual violence or rape.

That's where the falsity of Neptune come into play.
 

david starling

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"While they claim it's not true, many who watch it will believe the rape smear. Unless you have discernment or knowledge
of facts, people will believe any bulls*** the media put out there!☹️☹️☹️"

This is the problem. By making it a pseudo story of Monroe's life, whoever watches the movie can't sift the true from the false.
The rape by JFK will become "true fact" in the eyes of many who see the film. Similar to "I read it in the papers so it must be true!".
"If they put it in the film it must be fact".

This is smearing the legends of both JFK and Monroe.
He was a well-known womaniser, but no one ever accused him of sexual violence or rape.

That's where the falsity of Neptune come into play.

Neptune allows for beliefs of ALL sorts, both good and bad. "Believe it and/or not." Do fairy tales ever come true? Neptune says they just might.
 

blackbery

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Neptune allows for beliefs of ALL sorts, both good and bad. "Believe it and/or not." Do fairy tales ever come true? Neptune says they just might.

When a movie company deliberately distorts facts to attack a person who's dead & can't even defend himself, I'd say'that's
the shadow side of :neptune:& there is no excuse for this propaganda.
I guess Caroline Kennedy could try to sue them but what's the point? It would just bring more publicity to this vile rape smear.
Sad that some people (not you) are willing to pay the liars & low-vibrational POS to watch this cr*p!
 

Ukpoohbear

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Asteroid Marilyn and asteroid Norma both make significant conjunctions.

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On a side note, I absolutely adore this jumper. (I bought a very similar looking cardigan in commemoration). The photo was taken in 1953 on the set of ‘River of No Return.’ It was Marilyn’s first major movie and although it is a sweet and enjoyable movie, Marilyn’s acting is…awful. What she lacks in acting experience, she makes up for in being at her ultimate physical peak though. Her singing also is very good!

1953 was the year of Marilyn Monroe - the year of her catastrophic rise to fame! Filming started in July and Venus was transit her 1st house in Leo, as well as Pluto. Uranus was conjunct her NN.

An interesting anecdote is she actually knew her co-star Robert Mitchum from when she met him through her first husband, James Dougherty, who she married as soon as she turned 16. It was an arranged marriage so she didn’t need to return to the orphanage.

Robert Mitchum had been introduced to Marilyn before her transformation into ‘Marilyn Monroe’, while she was still Norma Jeane. He didn’t think she was particularly attractive, I think because she was very shy and did not ‘project’ herself in anyway, she would have been a wall flower.

He says that during the filming of this movie, it seemed like she was ‘Alice through the looking glass’ and ‘seemed like a lost child.’ He said she ‘burlesqued’ Marilyn Monroe and was more comfortable with being a comedian than she was being sexy and she did not project sexiness naturally. He finishes by saying that if Marilyn knew about her legend today, she wouldn’t believe it but probably would feel like she had finally been ‘adopted.’ 🤍

Here is what he had to say about when he met her.

— Robert Mitchum interview


— The River of No Return movie trailer

 
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Ukpoohbear

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Marilyn's Moon at 19 Aquarius sabian symbol:

PHASE 320: (AQUARIUS 20°): A LARGE WHITE DOVE BEARING A MESSAGE.

KEYNOTE: The answer of spiritual agencies to thorough, sustained and victorious individual efforts.

This concludes most significantly this series of five symbols. The individual who has gone courageously and with indomitable spirit through his crucial crisis receives, as it were, a deep spiritual blessing from the Soul-realm: "Mission accomplished. Peace be with you." And in this blessing a secret prophecy of what is yet to come may be seen by the perspicacious and spiritually sensitive mind of the recipient. Every real spiritual step a man takes in his development is the result of a victory over forces of inertia or destruction. The Divine is totally "present" in the heart of all true victories.
This is the fifth and last symbol of the sixty-fourth series. What the "message" is depends on the particular situation, but the white dove always signifies peace; at the very heart of this peace is the CERTIFICATION of individual worth and victory.

- http://www.mindfire.ca/An Astrological Mandala/An Astrological Mandala - Aquarius 16-30.htm

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Marilyn Monroe and the significance of the white dress 🤍

Returning to the Sabian symbol ‘a large white dove bearing a message,’ - I want to show the importance of the colour white in Marilyn’s life.

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The above photo is one of the most famous photos of the 21st century, photographed by Milton Greene.

And who can forget the famous image of Marilyn wearing a white halter neck dress and standing over a subway grate, for publicity for ‘The Seven Year Itch!’ The movie said they were filming scenes for the movie but it was in fact a publicity stunt and none of the clips filmed that day were used in the movie. Her husband at the time, the famous baseball player Joe DiMaggio, was watching in the audience and became enraged by the spectacle of seeing his wife’s dress being lifted up in front of an audience to show her underwear. He stormed off in a huff and later that night, Marilyn and himself got into an argument and Marilyn’s finger was broken and nose bruised.

The movie studio did not want their cash cow to ruin her looks so they pressured Marilyn into a divorce however, she remained friend’s with Joe and even put him in touch with a counsellor to help him with his anger issues. Being an old-fashioned macho Italian, it was a big deal for Joe to go to one. Years later, he reported the session’s changed his life and he was forever grateful for Marilyn suggesting it to him.

Back to the dress - another example of ‘a white dove baring a message.’

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Marilyn first husband, James Dougherty, talking about Marilyn’s love of white -

‘Norma Jeane loved to wear white. She would wear pure white dresses, or white slacks or shorts with a white blouse. She kept these clothes in immaculate condition. It’s hard to explain, so hard to explain, but the sex appeal people speak about when they try to describe Marilyn Monroe, it really existed,’ said Dougherty, even then.’
https://themarilynreport.com/2021/06/19/revisiting-norma-jeanes-catalina-days/

That was sex appeal that James Dougherty was referring to was the Mars conjunct Uranus in Pisces 8th house.

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david starling

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Saw an interview of Robert Mitchum by David Frost. He said he never *acted" a day in his life--he was just being his "devil-may-care" self. He seemed to love the money they were willing to pay him for acting, but he was blase about the fame. He was a brawler in real life, but mostly peaceful and relaxed, and happily married.

Interesting Chart, but unfortunately no tob. His only retro planet was Uran in Aqua. Sun Leo, Moon in Aries trining a Saturn/Neptune conjunction in Leo, and square a Mars/Pluto conjunction in :cancer: .

 
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Ukpoohbear

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Here's a sudden insight about the meaning of "combust" in Trad.

Being close to the Sun means HIDDEN from view, like Marilyn s intellectual capabilities with Mercury in Gem.

David, your sudden insight regarding Sun combust Mercury in Gemini has hit the nail on the head. The accuracy can be felt when you look at the tarot card associated with her - 7 of Swords.

7 of Swords is known for deceit, wearing a mask, running away etc.

Norma Jeane’s intelligence created the mask that is Marilyn Monroe and this is a side to her that isn’t focused on enough. Yes, it is well-known that there were ‘two sides’ to Monroe - the fun, happy side and the inevitable drop that occurred behind closed doors, but there is more to this mechanism than self-esteem issues.

What purpose did Marilyn Monroe fill for Norma Jeane? Well, it allowed her to receive love and attention that she so desperately craved. This grab for love was so successful it reached the heart’s and mind’s of people on an international a collective conscious scale.

But it also allowed Norma Jeane to reman hidden - just as we see in the Rider Waite depiction of the person running away with their sword’s. I guess if she grew up having had experienced sexual abuse, that creating a ‘red herring’ that allowed men to fight over her, thus distracting them from herself, this would keep her safe.

Norma Jeane not only needed love and attention to thrive, she was seeking a father figure. Yet this attention grabbing on a global scale, so men fought over her - there is an element of ridicule to this. She is angry at her Father and creating a caricature of the female ideal is almost laughing at the men who desire her.

It has been said before that Marilyn was such a caricature that is was similar to that of a clown performing - like the court jester. But the jester is not just performing so he can serve and please the courtier’s, he is carrying a message of ridicule.

Norma Jeane is resentful and ridiculing men, while keeping herself safe from harm by creating a new person for people to be distracted by - it’s genius warfare, not to be underestimated.

If that is not a creative genius, the angry clown, an image of a jester with a knife behind his back - and this mask is so potent, it is still distracting the collective conscious today.

Norma Jeane reminds me of the Wizard of Oz or the ‘man behind the curtain.’ Absolute genius.

Of course, she was also just a very sweet little girl but a very clever one at that. But to really know her, was to finally have the pin drop and realise she was leading you up the garden path the whole time.

Such apparent creative genius’ of her time, like her third husband Arthur Miller, would have learnt this too late. Miller was known for being of of America’s greatest playwrights, but he was also a narcissistic, using, sexist man who thought he hit the jackpot when a ‘blonde bimbo’ fell in love with him. Well, the pin dropped when he realised he was playing with the real deal - a real genius, and not just someone like himself who had won a few writing awards and played the part of a genius.

He thought he was playing with a bimbo but Marilyn Monroe threw his whole world upside down like a feminist Frankenstein; a veritable vortex of female fury, that he still couldn’t quite come to terms with what happened years after her death. In short, he played himself by his own ego because he thought he could use her and he ended up flummoxed.

MARILYN MONROE WAS THE REAL DEAL - an actual genius. Norma Jeane created a mythical, magical figurine whose super power was her ability to play men’s own sexism against them.

Hell hath no fury! I wish someone would write about this side of her!

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