Magi Astrology: for Genuine, Sincere Questions & Learning about it ONLY

myvortexlife1012

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Important Facts You Should Know About Magi Astrology:

1. Analyses of over 75,000 charts of married couples has been conducted, in order to arrive at their conclusions about what constitutes true love and marriage between people astrologically. The results revealed unequivocally, that Chiron is the planet of relationships and marriage.

2. With proper training and usage of Magi concepts, results of this system of astrology have shown an over 77% rate of accuracy. Not only does this go far beyond the requirements of being scientifically significant, but no other method of astrology has ever been able to offer or support such similar results themselves.

3. In order to fully be able to benefit from learning Magi Astrology, it is best to completely clear your mind of any other forms of astrology you have previously learned, and virtually make your mind a 'clean slate' -- otherwise referred to in ancient times as a 'tabula rasa'... in other words, a blank page.

The main reason for this, is that the essential structure, many of the concepts, planets of importance, definitions, terminologies, and the charts that are used themselves, are or can be completely different from what you have learned in other methods of astrology.

4. Magi Astrology uses 4 dimensions of charts, in order to arrive at its analyses of anything; unlike other forms of astrology which only use 1 dimension. It is understood through this system, that 75% of the information needed in order to arrive at an accurate conclusion about anything from relationships to house purchasing questions, is missing from other forms of astrology.

I will continue to add more information like this in time... :)
Btw, I so wish the Magi Astrology people would release their information in little scientist study packets so it can go mainstream. And I could program it into a website that is easy and fun to use.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Hi,

What does Magi say about Chiron conjunct Chiron in a synastry chart? I would imagine that these conjunctions are pretty common among those born between 1 and 3 years apart? And, what do they say about other Chiron aspects in synastry charts: Squares and Oppositions to both luminaries and outer planets?

Thanks in advance! And, thanks for this topic.
Hello,



In Magi Astrology, Chiron is considered a key planet and its aspects are given significant importance. A Chiron conjunct Chiron aspect in a synastry chart can indeed be common among individuals born within a few years of each other. This aspect can indicate a deep understanding or connection between the two individuals, as they may share similar wounds or healing journeys.



As for other Chiron aspects in synastry charts, they can vary greatly depending on the planets involved:



- Chiron square or opposition to luminaries (Sun and Moon) can indicate challenges or tensions in the relationship, often related to healing or personal growth. These aspects can bring about significant personal transformation, but they may also involve some degree of pain or struggle.



- Chiron aspects with outer planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) can also be significant. These aspects can indicate a shared journey of healing or transformation related to the themes of the outer planet involved.



Remember, the interpretation of these aspects can depend greatly on the rest of the chart and the individual's personal context. It's always best to consider the whole chart when interpreting these aspects.



I hope this helps, and feel free to ask if you have more questions!



Best,

Michael
 

myvortexlife1012

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What does Magi astrology believe is more important, a day with good transits, or a day where you personally have good transits?

For instance, let's say I wanted to natalize my experience with France by going there for the first time on a good day.

Would I be better off finding a good day with a Magical Linkage such as Chiron/Venus aspect, or would I be better off finding a day where transiting Chiron or Venus hits MY chiron or venus?
Hello,

In Magi Astrology, both universal transits and personal transits are considered important, but they serve different purposes.

A day with good universal transits, such as a Chiron/Venus aspect, can be seen as generally auspicious. These days can be beneficial for a wide range of activities and experiences, as the positive energy is considered to be universally accessible.

On the other hand, a day where transiting Chiron or Venus aspects your natal Chiron or Venus is personally significant for you. These personal transits can indicate important periods of growth, transformation, or opportunity in your life, specifically related to the themes of the planets involved.

In the context of your question about natalizing your experience with France, it could be beneficial to consider both types of transits. A day with a positive universal transit like a Chiron/Venus aspect could be seen as generally favorable for travel. However, if you can also find a day where transiting Chiron or Venus aspects your natal Chiron or Venus, it could add a layer of personal significance and potential benefit to your journey.

Remember, astrology is a complex field with many variables to consider, so it's always a good idea to consider the whole picture when making decisions like this.

I hope this helps! (I'm getting help answering you with ChatGPT)

Best,
Michael
 

myvortexlife1012

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but this isn't what I mean, i don't mean natalizing something can mean nothing bad will ever happen, I'm talking about this one thing. I want to go to France on a good day, so that I always have a good relationship with France.


it's based on MS's theory of natalization and I can't remember if they specify what they believe is more important, personal aspects on that day, or the aspects of the transiting planets in the sky.

if you wanted to get married, would you rather have say, transiting Chiron trine your natal Venus, or would you rather have transiting Chiron trine transiting venus?
Hello,

I understand your other question better now, thank you for the clarification. In the context of Magi Astrology and the concept of natalization, both personal transits and universal transits can play a significant role, but they offer different types of influences.

If you're looking to establish a positive relationship with a place (like France), a personal transit, such as transiting Chiron trine your natal Venus, would be more significant. This is because it's directly interacting with your personal birth chart and therefore has a more individualized impact on you.

On the other hand, if you're considering an event like a marriage, a universal transit like transiting Chiron trine transiting Venus could be more beneficial. This is because it's a universally positive aspect that would influence the general energy of the day, making it auspicious for such a significant event.

However, the ideal scenario would be to find a day where both a positive personal transit and a positive universal transit occur. This would combine the benefits of a personally significant aspect with the positive energy of a universally favorable day.

Remember, these are general interpretations and the full context of the chart should always be considered for a more accurate and personalized understanding.

I hope this provides some clarity! (Please note, I'm getting assistance from an AI developed by OpenAI to provide this information.)

Best,
Michael
 

myvortexlife1012

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Hi

Do Magi consider composite charts?

In a composite chart, I have a Chiron trine Venus/Neptune. Also Chiron trine Sun. Also opposite Uranus and Pluto. Yet in the synastry chart, there is Venus inconjunct Chiron one way, also same Chiron sextile Moon and trine Mars, and Neptune square Chiron the other way, but also this Chiron conjunct Jupiter. It looks half half. But mainly I'm curious if Magi consider composite charts?

Thanks :)
NR
What is the composite chart of or for? I use them in relationship analysis. I have a 6 part relationship analysis where the first composite chart is the midpoints of both people, called the potiential relationship, that I use to match them with about 700 Magi Astrology linkages. Then I use it by groups the linkages in 4 groups, Luck (financial), Love, Sex, and Drama. The first 3 have to outweigh the drama in order to be a good potential chart.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Hi Neptune and Everyone,

Magi Astrology generally does not use the composite method for relationship analysis, although you can obviously use it as an additional method if you so choose. The Magi Society does not tell people to stop using their other methods of astrology, it just states that they should really take a look at what this has to offer (not that you indicated this as a concern in your post Neptune, but I am including this for others who have mentioned such feelings before).

As you know, a composite chart is made up of the MIDPOINTS between two planets, of two people's charts -- one planet from each chart. Though M-A does not use this means, it does however consider MIDPOINTS to be very important in the individual charts themselves.

The M-A concept for this states that: The MIDPOINTS that the planets make in any of the 4 dimensions for charts, are considered as having the equivalency to actual planets themselves.

Although all the midpoints act as planets, there are 3 specific Midpoints that M-A considers to be the most relevant and having the most potent effect and reaction.

These are the Midpoints of: Jupiter/Chiron, Jupiter/Saturn, Saturn/Chiron.

When any of the important Romance Planets - Venus, Jupiter, Neptune, or Chiron - make an enhancement aspect to Jupiter/Chiron, this is considered a Cinderella Linkage, just like any of the others would be.

The Jupiter/Saturn point is considered the Nuclear Clash point, and the Saturn/Chiron point is considered the Heartbreak Clash point. Clashes from these midpoints react in a like manner as to their originating counterparts, and create new mutations with certain other planets, as for example Jupiter/Saturn in aspect to Chiron resulting in a 'Nuclear Heartbreak Clash'. These again, are considered to behave in a similar manner as the typical linkages the planets themselves would make between charts.

Midpoints are also used for 'Day Charts', and other charts of importance, such as the opening of a business, or meeting someone else for the first time; just as with all the other planets between the 2 individual charts.

Hope this provides everyone more good insight into what Magi Astrology is all about. :)

Magnetic7
Are there an step by step fully comprehensive tutorials for these kinds of things? I am intrigued, but there seems to be so many question marks going off in my head about how things work together.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Well I have the software and have been playing around with dates, and I can find a date that has no saturn clashes or personal saturn clash transits, but it's been hard to find a date that ALSO has good transits & good aspects, thats why I was trying to find out which I should learn towards, a day with great transits for me, or a day with a positive aspect that affects everyone. I think I'm going to try to find a day that's good for me since I'm visiting an established country, *I* am the one who needs a good relationship with it.





Thanks for this =]
You might need custom software to look for exactly what you have the interest of finding out. I wish I could help you. I’m currently working on coding a love compatibility app using Magi Principles. I can’t wait to be down with it and share it. It will come at some point. I am recoding it so that it will be more comprehensive and accurate, with info I learned since writing the code my first time.

If I could ask, what specific type of custom question do you want answered using Magi Astrology? I might be able to work on it at some point.
 

myvortexlife1012

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The 4 Dimensions & Accepted Orbs of Magi Astrology


Dimension 1
Geo Longitudes
Orb: 3*00


Dimension 2
Geo Declinations
Orb: 1*12" = 1.20 decimal


Dimension 3
Helio Longitudes
Orb: 3*00


Dimension 4
Helio Latitudes
Orb: 0*18" = 0.30 decimal

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Too true. Gosh, I wish I was faster at coding, so I could include all 4 dimensions in the love compatibility app I’m doing with Magi Astrology. Just seeing them I’m drooling. Thanks for reminding me.
 

myvortexlife1012

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I'm interested by this assertion that Chiron is about relationships ... I have chiron opposite Uranus ... I've never been able to hold down a decent relationship ... anybody I ever met that I liked and felt could be a longterm prospect dumped me ... and usually I never saw it coming ... relationships just blow up for me all the time without warning ... and even more as my progressed venus has been in orb of uranus which itself has progressed ...

Is there anything I can do?
I have a love compatibility app that I need to do some more work to and I’ll be able to share it with you. You get an account, and then you plug in your love interests. Then you can see exactly what the dynamics of each relationship were, and why things ended that way. Then you just keep dating until you find one person you like who also has great compatibility on the app. It is going to be free at the start. Does it sound interesting? I had the same type of relationships, but with this app, I was able to get perspective. It feels good to know that it’s not you. It’s the compatibility.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Although all the midpoints act as planets, there are 3 specific Midpoints that M-A considers to be the most relevant and having the most potent effect and reaction.

These are the Midpoints of: Jupiter/Chiron, Jupiter/Saturn, Saturn/Chiron.

@Magnetic7,

How much more of an effect if you were to try to put it in numbers, twice as much, three times as significant? Or more like 5x?

I program these things into my site and it would be nice to know how much more significant I should weigh these linkages or aspects.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Hi Skillcoil,

The Magi system that has been publicly released, does not use the same structure for charts that traditional astrology uses; there are no ascendant/descendant, or MC/IC designated points, in order to make those types of aspects to. At this time, the Magi Society wishes to emphasize the importance of Planetary Geometry to everyone, and that there is no need for a birth time in order to extract accurate information from a chart. It is because of the importance of this that they keep the ASC/MC chart structures that they do utilize, as internal knowledge for the time being.

I will post some examples of these charts to the thread in a short while, so that everyone will be able to take a look at the differences. ;)
If I’m doing Magi Astrology, should I avoid the moon and the Midheaven? The reason I ask is that I complied a long list of relationship compatibility linkages and in that group are some that reference the moon and some that reference the midheaven (the 10th house). The app seems to be very predictably true so far, but I still want to know if maybe it would be better if I take those out.

What does anyone who knows think?
 

myvortexlife1012

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Hi Magnetic7 and thank you for allyour insights. I am new to this and all the information I am getting is overwhelming. Can you, please, see how is my relationship with this man is?ME April 9, 1958 17h10 Rabat Morocco
Him October 30, 1946 Time unknown North Bay Toronto. Sometimes I would swer is a dream but others I am not so sure. I was married for 19 years had a relationship for 3 years with a liar... and I don't want to skew up again
I can also check on that for you with my own online software. Let me make a note and thanks for providing the birth info. I’ll let you know
 

myvortexlife1012

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Paying a lot of money.

I'm quite late on this thread, but I sympathize greatly with Frank's point of view (and am guessing he has Saturn in Capricorn rising and used to be on undernet #astrology ? ;) ) This has to be my (and that of many others) biggest beef with the Magi Society, which is making big claims with very specific numbers and then being really coy about backing them up - you have to be a member, blah blah. It stinks of Scientology. However legitimate their claims might be, this is generally how frauds and con-jobs are executed. Science is fundamentally about peer-review of data. This allows revision of erroneous and false data etc etc ad infinitum - anyone who claims to have education in the hard sciences should already know this.

When kings claimed divine right rulership to justify their transgressions, eventually the masses rose up and dealt with that such that democratic forms of government arose.

'Nuff said.

Gilgamesh
Thank you for your opinion. I totally agree with you about what you slexoect from Magi Astrology. Totally. They should offer mini step by step tutorial type info with all of their data of what to look for, clear as day, so the scientist folk can actually study it and confirm it so it can get more into the pop culture and help more people.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Hi Sven,

Yes, when I first found eclipses I also put a lot of value on them! What I have seemed to discover is that they act like a mirror - you can look at trends from the eclipses, or from the planetary transits, and they tend to reflect each other. That's about all I've discovered so far, other than the weeks around eclipse times tend to be quite charged.

Now back to Magi astrology:
its a bit difficult because transits influence end pretty much immediately following their exact point, but they can be natalized for up to 3 degrees later. For the slow movers like Neptune or Saturn in a loop, this could effectively mean years where you shouldn't natalize anything! Any thoughts on this?


So, I read the Magi website's answer to the question "what if you have good and bad transits at the same time?" or in the same natalization?Their response was that it was complex, and although they did do a bit of explaining, I wasnt totally able to figure it out...

I know that the Magi state that no influence is ever cancelled out. Does this mean that a chart with 4 cindarella transits and 1 heartbreak transit is still most likely to end in heartbreak? Do heartbreak transits "trump" all other transits no matter what? (for example, I have a period upcoming where I have 3 cindarella transits in Geo and 2 in Helio, totalling 5. But I have the chiron sq chiron, Saturn qnx mars and venus (not exact on venus), and saturn conj. Juno, all in a looped transit in Geo for the next year or two (first pass already happened). Also have t.venus conj. chiron in Decs, but also opp. saturn around the same time.) Does planetary geometry (example, dragons) with a square and a trine overall indicate potential positive time when saturn isnt involved?

This is very confusing as I cant seem to figure out what to do. If bad transits really do kind of trump the situation, I could be stuck with my head down for the next two years! Not to mention the two years previous where I had some really tough transits. I'm at a very crucial turning point in my life right now, and big positive natalizations to move forward are very important to me, especially in love, career, and home matters.

Which also brings me to a final question, do you think you could explain to me a bit about how I could use angles to lessen tension in an electional chart, and to enhance Jupiter? That sounds very interesting.

All of your help is sincerely appreciated. I know I've posted a whole lot of questions! Even in your past few responses, I've been able to clarify a lot in regards to magi astrology. Thanks again
I feel your frustration and your desire to have accurate insights. I should give you a free reading. If you’re curious message me. I’m can give you a very good overview of extremely important points for compatibility. If you’re interested, reach out to me, or message me.
 

myvortexlife1012

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Secrets of Magi Astrology​

My journey with Magi Astrology has been a fascinating one.

Years ago, I spent weeks researching and found on a forum, around 700 Magi Astrology aspects and linkages related to relationship compatibility.

Some were good, some were bad, so I grouped these linkages into four areas: Luck, Love, Sex, and Drama.

I used composite charts (midpoints), synastry charts (between two people’s charts). And more.

Eventually once I worked though all the steps, I was able to accurately predict if a relationship was strong enough to stand the test of time. And it feels like I have a big secret, but now at least I get to share it with you all.

What experiences have you had with Magi Astrology? Good or bad?
 

Humanitarian

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If I’m doing Magi Astrology, should I avoid the moon and the Midheaven? The reason I ask is that I complied a long list of relationship compatibility linkages and in that group are some that reference the moon and some that reference the midheaven (the 10th house). The app seems to be very predictably true so far, but I still want to know if maybe it would be better if I take those out.

What does anyone who knows think?
You can use the Moon and the Midheaven however, if they have the real correct birth time for you to plug that in their chart.
 
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