Kyle Rittenhouse trial
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The fact that it is taking so long shows that, on the very least, there are a portion of jurors who are voting not guilty. Might end on misstrial though.
Prosecution also tried to go after Kyle's fifth amendment rights during cross examination. The prosecution is constantly going after his constitutional rights, and should have been misstrial with prejudice.
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Taking long is good though, because on the very least, it means there are jurors who are in favour of acquittal, and these are unlikely to give in.
If there is a hang jury though, can't the defense use this as an example to advocate for a misstrial with prejudice? Because it is pretty clear by now that Kyle will never get a fair trial.
I"m cutting & pasting from the other thread.
They had closing arguments today. The prosecutor's rebuttal was so ridiculous, people laughed out loud. He said that Kyle should have put down his gun & fought the attacks with his bare fists! What a nut.
Kyle's defense attorney, Mark Richards gave an EPIC closing. Wow, he went through the timeline of how each man came up to Kyle to hurt him, attack him, & try to kill him. Kyle had to shoot them to defend himself.
With the verdict of NOT GUILTY or Mistrial will likely come down tomorrow. It has been very tough with the but brings liberation & freedom at last for Kyle.
and expect the angry, antifa mobs to riot like they always do.
The fake news don't show any of the trial except little bits from the prosector's lies. Yesterday, YT cut the stream from law channels that had over 80,000 live viewers. They don't like the truth getting out there. They print non-stop bull about him.
#WatchingtheWatchers #KyleRittenhouse #Rittenhouse
Rittenhouse Trial Day 9 Recap: Defense Rests, Use of Force Dr. Black, Drew H Live, Video Evidence
https://youtu.be/luUcikkabSE
They had closing arguments today. The prosecutor's rebuttal was so ridiculous, people laughed out loud. He said that Kyle should have put down his gun & fought the attacks with his bare fists! What a nut.
Kyle's defense attorney, Mark Richards gave an EPIC closing. Wow, he went through the timeline of how each man came up to Kyle to hurt him, attack him, & try to kill him. Kyle had to shoot them to defend himself.
With the verdict of NOT GUILTY or Mistrial will likely come down tomorrow. It has been very tough with the but brings liberation & freedom at last for Kyle.
and expect the angry, antifa mobs to riot like they always do.
The fake news don't show any of the trial except little bits from the prosector's lies. Yesterday, YT cut the stream from law channels that had over 80,000 live viewers. They don't like the truth getting out there. They print non-stop bull about him.
#WatchingtheWatchers #KyleRittenhouse #Rittenhouse
Rittenhouse Trial Day 9 Recap: Defense Rests, Use of Force Dr. Black, Drew H Live, Video Evidence
https://youtu.be/luUcikkabSE
kYLE a VERY NAIVE KID WHO WENT TO THE RIOT with his first-aid kit & a gun to protect the neighbourhood & people. The night before, the riots had caused huge property damage, a 70 year old man protecting his small biz had been whacked in the head by the antifa mobs & in critical condition. The police had virutally abandoned the downtown area, leaving the BLM.antifa mob to burn, destroy & kill. Kyle worked as a life-guard & had some medical training.
Good posting by Katydid. . But the trial is proving that Kyle did nothing wrong except defend himself against the 3 antifa thugs who attacked him. They are all criminals, one was a convicted pedo, the others charged with keeping his own mother & gmother as hostages with a knife. While Kyle was going around calling 'friendly, friendly, who needs medical help' the 3 thugs were setting fires & getting into brawls.
They followed Kyle & said they were going to kill him & smash his cramium. It's all on video & the FBI finally released their drone footage which they kept for 18 months. Rosenbaum, the suicidal pedo tried to grab the gun to use it against Kyle & Kyle shot him. Then the other thug tried to bash his head in with the skateboard so Kyle had to shoot him. Finally, the last criminal tried to shoot Kyle with a Glock which he was carrying illegally. Kyle shot him & got his arm & he lived.
The fake news keep lying about Kyle who works in Kenosha & didn't want his town completely destroyed by the violent mobs. We need more people who are willing to stand up to the violent, radical criminals.
But he will be completely acquitted, not guilty. Self-defence is not a crime.
& complete freedom for Kyle coming up.
But he has to deal with the emotional baggage of killing 2 men who would have killed him & that's not an easy thing. He was only 17 at the time.
I try to catch up on the trail every night with the analysis of defence attorney.
He believes that Kyle should never have been charged in the first place; just more lunatic left, woke bull.
#WatchingtheWatchers #KyleRittenhouse #Rittenhouse
Rittenhouse Trial Day 6 Recap: Gaige Grosskreutz Direct & Cross Exam, Crime Lab, Kenosha PD
https://youtu.be/dYfU9fcboMo
Good posting by Katydid. . But the trial is proving that Kyle did nothing wrong except defend himself against the 3 antifa thugs who attacked him. They are all criminals, one was a convicted pedo, the others charged with keeping his own mother & gmother as hostages with a knife. While Kyle was going around calling 'friendly, friendly, who needs medical help' the 3 thugs were setting fires & getting into brawls.
They followed Kyle & said they were going to kill him & smash his cramium. It's all on video & the FBI finally released their drone footage which they kept for 18 months. Rosenbaum, the suicidal pedo tried to grab the gun to use it against Kyle & Kyle shot him. Then the other thug tried to bash his head in with the skateboard so Kyle had to shoot him. Finally, the last criminal tried to shoot Kyle with a Glock which he was carrying illegally. Kyle shot him & got his arm & he lived.
The fake news keep lying about Kyle who works in Kenosha & didn't want his town completely destroyed by the violent mobs. We need more people who are willing to stand up to the violent, radical criminals.
But he will be completely acquitted, not guilty. Self-defence is not a crime.
& complete freedom for Kyle coming up.
But he has to deal with the emotional baggage of killing 2 men who would have killed him & that's not an easy thing. He was only 17 at the time.
I try to catch up on the trail every night with the analysis of defence attorney.
He believes that Kyle should never have been charged in the first place; just more lunatic left, woke bull.
#WatchingtheWatchers #KyleRittenhouse #Rittenhouse
Rittenhouse Trial Day 6 Recap: Gaige Grosskreutz Direct & Cross Exam, Crime Lab, Kenosha PD
https://youtu.be/dYfU9fcboMo
POST FROM CHIAMARIA FROM OLD THREAD.
I was watching the closing arguments closely yesterday too. The prosecution side was pretty much arguing that Kyle should have willingly relinquished the thing that he brought to protect himself so that someone else could get a hold of it and kill him with the very thing that was meant to protect him to begin with. Does that even work in the real world? Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? I bet if the prosecution were in his position they would have used the gun liberally themselves. I doubt the pedophile, who said he wanted to kill Kyle, was going to remove the gun just so that he could say "Whoa whoa dude, why the hostility? Put down the gun and let's be friends!"
In cases like these, fists fights don't resolve the issue, especially when you have two people ganging up on you (as was the case with one person hitting him with a skateboard and another trying to kick him). The videos showed full proof that Kyle was 100% acting in self defense, and then he went to TURN HIMSELF INTO THE POLICE. He showed such marked restraint and control that is amazing for anyone in that scenario, let alone a 17 year old. You may train for these sorts of situations your whole life but when you find yourself in it you might react very differently and could lose control of your nerves, but Kyle didn't. I was on Youtube but, like you said blackbery, the stream got cut off, so we moved to twitch to continue watching it.
I hope to god that the jury finds him not guilty as this will be a watershed moment for all gun owners in the US. I'm seeing that he's about to experience a Mars return in his chart, and I'm not sure how that could play out because I'm not sure if he has a day or a night chart. It is not conjunct his natal Mars yet, but it is applying, and it'd hit his T-square with Mars, Uranus and Jupiter, all in fixed signs. Both Mars and Uranus are in their domiciles, though, which might help a bit.
Transit Uranus is trining his Sun exact, but it is retrograding and receding. It is also trining his Chiron and squaring his Jupiter and Neptune, which is creating a temporary grand cross with Neptune, T-Mars, Jupiter and T-Uranus. On top of that, T-Saturn is conjuncting his Neptune and is also triggering this temporary grand cross. It feels like he is really being forced to confront his demons, whatever they may be regarding this case. It's a super heavy energy.
The transit Venus is about to conjunct his Chiron and Sun exact, and this is a helping kind of energy, especially given the fact that his Sun is pretty much unaspected and its only "friend" is Chiron, which indicates many wounds throughout his life with his personal identity and maybe not knowing if he fits in anywhere. Venus is a quick planet, but it'll be handy for this very moment.
There is also transit Jupiter that is applying and conjuncting his Uranus, which is also triggering the same t-square, which will kind of be like having Uranus(Jupiter)-Jupiter-Mars in a way, which can lend a positive energy for this T-square, even if Kyle is about to experience a Mars return.
We don't know Kyle's time of birth unfortunately, so I'm not sure how strong the conjunction between his moon and T-Pluto is, and whether it is applying or receding, though there'll likely be a strong enough conjunction there indicating some sort of death and rebirth of his emotional processes. Same with his natal Mercury. It's kind of like the little boy is being beaten out of him and he is experiencing an evolution in his way of understanding and comprehending things from a mental and emotional perspective.
Honestly, from these transits it could go either way, but there are more heavy energies than ones that are favourable. However, we can also expect the unexpected.
ETA: Sorry, had to share this babylon bee article https://babylonbee.com/news/kenosha-...on-for-verdict
CNN is even warning that protests could be even worse than last year, when they were mostly peaceful. "If Rittenhouse isn't found guilty, we may even see partially non-peaceful protests this year," said one anchor. Other residents have opted out of painting their doorposts, and will instead hire Kyle Rittenhouse to protect them.
oh god, my sides!
I was watching the closing arguments closely yesterday too. The prosecution side was pretty much arguing that Kyle should have willingly relinquished the thing that he brought to protect himself so that someone else could get a hold of it and kill him with the very thing that was meant to protect him to begin with. Does that even work in the real world? Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? I bet if the prosecution were in his position they would have used the gun liberally themselves. I doubt the pedophile, who said he wanted to kill Kyle, was going to remove the gun just so that he could say "Whoa whoa dude, why the hostility? Put down the gun and let's be friends!"
In cases like these, fists fights don't resolve the issue, especially when you have two people ganging up on you (as was the case with one person hitting him with a skateboard and another trying to kick him). The videos showed full proof that Kyle was 100% acting in self defense, and then he went to TURN HIMSELF INTO THE POLICE. He showed such marked restraint and control that is amazing for anyone in that scenario, let alone a 17 year old. You may train for these sorts of situations your whole life but when you find yourself in it you might react very differently and could lose control of your nerves, but Kyle didn't. I was on Youtube but, like you said blackbery, the stream got cut off, so we moved to twitch to continue watching it.
I hope to god that the jury finds him not guilty as this will be a watershed moment for all gun owners in the US. I'm seeing that he's about to experience a Mars return in his chart, and I'm not sure how that could play out because I'm not sure if he has a day or a night chart. It is not conjunct his natal Mars yet, but it is applying, and it'd hit his T-square with Mars, Uranus and Jupiter, all in fixed signs. Both Mars and Uranus are in their domiciles, though, which might help a bit.
Transit Uranus is trining his Sun exact, but it is retrograding and receding. It is also trining his Chiron and squaring his Jupiter and Neptune, which is creating a temporary grand cross with Neptune, T-Mars, Jupiter and T-Uranus. On top of that, T-Saturn is conjuncting his Neptune and is also triggering this temporary grand cross. It feels like he is really being forced to confront his demons, whatever they may be regarding this case. It's a super heavy energy.
The transit Venus is about to conjunct his Chiron and Sun exact, and this is a helping kind of energy, especially given the fact that his Sun is pretty much unaspected and its only "friend" is Chiron, which indicates many wounds throughout his life with his personal identity and maybe not knowing if he fits in anywhere. Venus is a quick planet, but it'll be handy for this very moment.
There is also transit Jupiter that is applying and conjuncting his Uranus, which is also triggering the same t-square, which will kind of be like having Uranus(Jupiter)-Jupiter-Mars in a way, which can lend a positive energy for this T-square, even if Kyle is about to experience a Mars return.
We don't know Kyle's time of birth unfortunately, so I'm not sure how strong the conjunction between his moon and T-Pluto is, and whether it is applying or receding, though there'll likely be a strong enough conjunction there indicating some sort of death and rebirth of his emotional processes. Same with his natal Mercury. It's kind of like the little boy is being beaten out of him and he is experiencing an evolution in his way of understanding and comprehending things from a mental and emotional perspective.
Honestly, from these transits it could go either way, but there are more heavy energies than ones that are favourable. However, we can also expect the unexpected.
ETA: Sorry, had to share this babylon bee article https://babylonbee.com/news/kenosha-...on-for-verdict
CNN is even warning that protests could be even worse than last year, when they were mostly peaceful. "If Rittenhouse isn't found guilty, we may even see partially non-peaceful protests this year," said one anchor. Other residents have opted out of painting their doorposts, and will instead hire Kyle Rittenhouse to protect them.
oh god, my sides!
Excellent posting Chiamaria, good to know there are other members who understand the legal meaning of self defence.
the most important planet in a chart, with Kyle, even more so, being a male. Thank you for pointing out the another indicator that Kyle will be found not guilty or a hung jury which means he will go free. But it won't be an easy life even with his freedom. There will always the lunatic left who will try to hurt him, he probably will have to leave Wisconsin...even before the trial, the antifa.blm thugs were giving him death threats & he had to hide in an undisclosed address. He should move to Texas where there are plenty of 2nd Amendment people who support Kyle.
#WatchingtheWatchers #KyleRittenhouse #Rittenhouse
Rittenhouse Trial Day 11 Recap: Closing Arguments Review
https://youtu.be/LtL8g3Bjeq0
Rekeita Law was one of the law channels streaming live that got cut off a couple of times so corrupt media could lie about what went on in the trial.
The doucebag msm keep lying about Kyle & supporting the pedo & the other thugs who attacked him.
in USA chart H3 & plenty of deception in their communication zone.
https://youtu.be/whA5p5qmJrc
Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberations LIVE - Waiting for a Verdict
the most important planet in a chart, with Kyle, even more so, being a male. Thank you for pointing out the another indicator that Kyle will be found not guilty or a hung jury which means he will go free. But it won't be an easy life even with his freedom. There will always the lunatic left who will try to hurt him, he probably will have to leave Wisconsin...even before the trial, the antifa.blm thugs were giving him death threats & he had to hide in an undisclosed address. He should move to Texas where there are plenty of 2nd Amendment people who support Kyle.
#WatchingtheWatchers #KyleRittenhouse #Rittenhouse
Rittenhouse Trial Day 11 Recap: Closing Arguments Review
https://youtu.be/LtL8g3Bjeq0
Rekeita Law was one of the law channels streaming live that got cut off a couple of times so corrupt media could lie about what went on in the trial.
The doucebag msm keep lying about Kyle & supporting the pedo & the other thugs who attacked him.
in USA chart H3 & plenty of deception in their communication zone.
https://youtu.be/whA5p5qmJrc
Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberations LIVE - Waiting for a Verdict
Even if it's a hung jury, the Judge has a Mistrial With Prejudice and a Mistrial Without Prejudice card to play from the defence.
Lawyers say he is keeping them in his back pocket to ensure Kyle doesn't spend one day in jail. Judge knows this is the most obvious case of selff-defence he's ever presided over.
The antifa mob sent the Judge violent, threatening emails. Really vile people.
They threatened his family too. That is a crime.
They have also threatened the jury by having the fake news follow the Jury van to try to photograph them. That is jury intimidation, a crime.
The prosecutors lied over & over again.
If Kyle is not acquitted of all charges, then we don't have a legal system anywmore.
Lawyers say he is keeping them in his back pocket to ensure Kyle doesn't spend one day in jail. Judge knows this is the most obvious case of selff-defence he's ever presided over.
The antifa mob sent the Judge violent, threatening emails. Really vile people.
They threatened his family too. That is a crime.
They have also threatened the jury by having the fake news follow the Jury van to try to photograph them. That is jury intimidation, a crime.
The prosecutors lied over & over again.
If Kyle is not acquitted of all charges, then we don't have a legal system anywmore.
Best place to watch it LIVE. He gets over 100,000 views per show because he has good lawyers on the show, probably at least 20 now.
THEY ALL AGREE That Kyle acted in SELF DEFENCE & some of them were successful prosecutors.
Kyle Rittenhouse LIVE Jury Deliberations Day 4 - VERDICT OR MISTRIAL, PLEASE
https://youtu.be/k6sWpPdt7aU
THEY ALL AGREE That Kyle acted in SELF DEFENCE & some of them were successful prosecutors.
Kyle Rittenhouse LIVE Jury Deliberations Day 4 - VERDICT OR MISTRIAL, PLEASE
https://youtu.be/k6sWpPdt7aU
Katydid posted this on the old thread.
Let's look at what this kid's actions were before he shot in self defense.
That morning, he was a lifeguard at the Community Center. After work, he volunteered to help clean up the vandalism at the High School. He scrubbed off the black paint put there by Antifa.[ Sun/Moon in Cap, taking responsibility]
Then he went along with a group of other armed citizens to try and PROTECT the business of a friend of his family. The man had already lost 2/3 of his family business the previous nights. [Sun/Moon sextiling Venus/Mars in Scorpio--warrior energy]
Kyle put out a dumpster fire, that had been wheeled up close to the businesss he was trying to protect. He thought they were going to use it to set it on fire.
HE WAS CHASED BY ANTIFA MEMBERS, WHO WERE ANGRY THAT HE PUT OUT THE FIRE.
Everything he did after that chase began was in self defense.
Let's look at what this kid's actions were before he shot in self defense.
That morning, he was a lifeguard at the Community Center. After work, he volunteered to help clean up the vandalism at the High School. He scrubbed off the black paint put there by Antifa.[ Sun/Moon in Cap, taking responsibility]
Then he went along with a group of other armed citizens to try and PROTECT the business of a friend of his family. The man had already lost 2/3 of his family business the previous nights. [Sun/Moon sextiling Venus/Mars in Scorpio--warrior energy]
Kyle put out a dumpster fire, that had been wheeled up close to the businesss he was trying to protect. He thought they were going to use it to set it on fire.
HE WAS CHASED BY ANTIFA MEMBERS, WHO WERE ANGRY THAT HE PUT OUT THE FIRE.
Everything he did after that chase began was in self defense.
Rittenhouse Judge Kicks MSNBC Out of Trial After Alleged Jury Stalking Incident
Judge Bruce Schroeder of the Kenosha County Court in Wisconsin announced Thursday morning that he had ejected MSNBC from further coverage of the Kyle Rittenhouse trial after a man claiming to be a producer allegedly followed a bus containing jurors.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/11/18/watch-rittenhouse-judge-kicks-msnbc-out-of-trial/
Judge Bruce Schroeder of the Kenosha County Court in Wisconsin announced Thursday morning that he had ejected MSNBC from further coverage of the Kyle Rittenhouse trial after a man claiming to be a producer allegedly followed a bus containing jurors.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/11/18/watch-rittenhouse-judge-kicks-msnbc-out-of-trial/
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Rittenhouse Juror Taken Over by ROGUE Juror?
Juror Question #5 Explained
- Viva Frei Vlawg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPpfilaCiDw
If this isn’t self defense, than NOTHING IS SELF DEFENSE.
The right for any of us to even exist is on trial.
Put down your gun and take your beating. - your government
They want to be able to heap abuse on people
and then lock up anyone who fights back.
That's what this has always been about
making Kyle an example
for the rest of the people who won't just "...Take a beating...".
Hands, feet, skateboad, gun.
All lethal
and all attacked Kyle.
The prosecution has fabricated evidence
sabotaged evidence sent to the defense
pushed trials down the line to lock away witnesses behind the 5th amendment
violated Kyle's 5th amendment right twice
broke a court order to bring in propensity evidence
lied to the jury both about law, fact, and testimony
lied to the court
it's unbelievable this is allowed in our country.
this trial is about abolishing the right to self defense.
Once you lose that there's no reason for you to have firearms
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Rittenhouse Juror Taken Over by ROGUE Juror?
Juror Question #5 Explained
- Viva Frei Vlawg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPpfilaCiDw
If this isn’t self defense, than NOTHING IS SELF DEFENSE.
The right for any of us to even exist is on trial.
Put down your gun and take your beating. - your government
They want to be able to heap abuse on people
and then lock up anyone who fights back.
That's what this has always been about
making Kyle an example
for the rest of the people who won't just "...Take a beating...".
Hands, feet, skateboad, gun.
All lethal
and all attacked Kyle.
The prosecution has fabricated evidence
sabotaged evidence sent to the defense
pushed trials down the line to lock away witnesses behind the 5th amendment
violated Kyle's 5th amendment right twice
broke a court order to bring in propensity evidence
lied to the jury both about law, fact, and testimony
lied to the court
it's unbelievable this is allowed in our country.
this trial is about abolishing the right to self defense.
Once you lose that there's no reason for you to have firearms
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Rittenhouse DA CAUGHT Withholding MORE EVIDENCE
This Is Beyond Insane
Judge MUST Rule Mistrial
the judge will let this go to the jury's decision.
It will be guilty on at least one charge.
A mistrial will then be declared.
The problem: once the jury has come back with a guilty decision
the State can then appeal the mistrial.
It's going to be a perfect example of "...lawfare..." against a 17 year old kid
with trials that go on and on and on.
this case is really important.
It’s not just about the freedom of a kid
but it’s about the integrity of the justice system.
If they can get away with all of this
then I dunno what kind of justice we will get later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuE-nKEz1PM
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Rittenhouse DA CAUGHT Withholding MORE EVIDENCE
This Is Beyond Insane
Judge MUST Rule Mistrial
the judge will let this go to the jury's decision.
It will be guilty on at least one charge.
A mistrial will then be declared.
The problem: once the jury has come back with a guilty decision
the State can then appeal the mistrial.
It's going to be a perfect example of "...lawfare..." against a 17 year old kid
with trials that go on and on and on.
this case is really important.
It’s not just about the freedom of a kid
but it’s about the integrity of the justice system.
If they can get away with all of this
then I dunno what kind of justice we will get later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuE-nKEz1PM
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