KING CHARLES III Has A PEREGRINE MARS - Undignified TEMPER Tantrum In PEN-GATE Debacle

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PRINCE CHARLES NATIVITY

SAGITTARIUS MARS in the BOUNDS of SATURN
Trines early TROPICAL Leo Ascendent
SCORPIO SUN opposing TAURUS MOON





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"SAGITTARIUS MARS in the BOUNDS of SATURN
Trines early TROPICAL Leo Ascendent
SCORPIO SUN opposing TAURUS MOON"

Sorry, can you go through this again? What does the first part mean, Mars in the bounds of Saturn?
Also, Mars is such a very wide trine to ascendent, it is almost non-effective. The saturn in semi-sextile is exact, though.
Sun and moon are in opposition but again, so wide to be very weak.
The moon on NN in the 10th is very powerful. And very symbolic, if we consider moon to represent his mother, Queen Elizabeth.
 
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ElenaJ said:
"..SAGITTARIUS MARS in the BOUNDS of SATURN.."
Sorry, can you go through this again?
What does the first part mean, Mars in the bounds of Saturn?
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"....essential dignities and debilities are used to determine the condition of a planet in an astrological chart.
and
ancient original, more elaborate dignities include multiple rulerships & co-rulerships for each sign of the zodiac..." :)


The five essential dignities are:

Domicile
Exaltation
Triplicity
Terms/Bounds
Decans/Faces

 
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JUPITERASC said:
"....essential dignities and debilities are used to determine the condition of a planet in an astrological chart.
and
ancient original, more elaborate dignities include multiple rulerships & co-rulerships for each sign of the zodiac..." :)


The five essential dignities are:

Domicile
Exaltation
Triplicity
Terms/Bounds
Decans/Faces

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So basically you are just using the word Bound rather than Term. Fancy Sunday!
 
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The proclamation occurred on 10 September 2022 at 10:00 BST at St James's Palace in London.
while MERCURY was STATIONARY only six hours before RETROGRADING :)
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The King joined the second part of the council, attended only by Privy Counsellors
and delivered a personal address regarding the Queen's death.
He took an oath to preserve the independence of the Church of Scotland, which was reaffirmed
by signing two documents as the Queen Consort and the Prince of Wales witnessed his signature.
At the conclusion of the ceremony, Privy Counsellors signed the proclamation.
During the signing,
the King appeared to show visible frustration at there being several items on his table which went viral online.

Charles III's Accession Council was the first to be televised and the first to be streamed online.
At 11:00, 21-gun salutes at the Tower of London, Cardiff Castle, Edinburgh Castle, Castle Cornet, Gibraltar
and naval bases and stations at sea marked the accession of Charles III.

Most parliamentary activities were suspended for 10 days.
At 15:30, the king hosted the prime minister and the cabinet for an audience.


Saturday 10 September 2022 at 16:36 just six hours after signing MERCURY turned RETROGRADE
OPPOSING ARIES JUPITER retrograde
TRINE AQUARIUS SATURN retrograde
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MERCURY TURNS DIRECT 1 Oct 2022 at 22:08

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so let's check for related events when Mercury Direct returns to that degree :)

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Monday - 17th October 2022 at 22:08 MERCURY DIRECT RETURNS TO DEGREE at SIGNING
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Thanks for all this work, JupiterAsc!

The King's natal mars forms a T-square with the mars/neptune square looming in the background of all the charts.
He also has transiting saturn square natal sun.
"Uneasy is the head that wears a crown".
 
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ElenaJ said:
Thanks for all this work, JupiterAsc!

The King's natal mars forms a T-square with the mars/neptune square looming in the background of all the charts.
He also has transiting saturn square natal sun.
"Uneasy is the head that wears a crown".
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"...Mars in Sagittarius individual is bold and controversial in their actions.
They can be quite fanatical and vocal about their beliefs
They need to watch a tendency to bully or intimidate others.
They may have a lack of respect for others :)
which could cause a groundswell of opposition
that the native will eventually have to contend with..."
Curtis Manwaring

Monday - 17th October 2022 at 22:08 MERCURY DIRECT RETURNS TO DEGREE at SIGNING
be interesting to note if any significant events :)

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Noticeable also is the mars/sun square, that reflects the King's natal ascendent ruler and MH ruler.

Many comments have been made about his very red hands, circulation problems. Leo/sun.
Wishing him godspeed, but he may have a short reign.
 
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ElenaJ said:
Noticeable also is the mars/sun square, that reflects the King's natal ascendent ruler and MH ruler.

Many comments have been made about his very red hands,
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not just red but also chronically swollen
note
watery Scorpio Sun is in Jupiters bounds
- doctors probably treating

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ElenaJ said:
circulation problems. Leo/sun.
Wishing him godspeed, but he may have a short reign.
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indeed
also it's 2022 - monarchy is unpopular
remember US war of Independence was to free itself from British rule :)



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SCORPIO MERCURY - SUN conjunction natally
Traditionally - "...the image of the Scorpion is feminine, nocturnal, poisonous, unchangeable, fierce, thievish.
It indicates inquiries, deception, lawsuits, fights and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler
men born under the influence of Scorpio are disproportioned and awkward
tricky, turbulent, base, covetous, lying, bitter because the Scorpion sting
competitive, powerful, destroyers of property, thieves, murderers, traitors, burglars
and haters of their own families...." :)
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Yes, swollen as well.
Gemini rules the hands, mercury ruler, and the King's mercury is conjunct South Node and exactly square ascendent.
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SCORPIO "...Domicile of Mars, depression of Moon,
it controls the urinary system, the lower gastrointestinal tract...."
clearly
water/fluid retention issues

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ElenaJ said:
Yes.
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interesting that physical manifestations of planetary phenomena
in particular the fluid retention
- are accounted for it seems :)

ElenaJ said:
The rest of your description of scorpio is brutal!!! Help!
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well clearly NOT ALL SCORPIO natal placements manifest identically :)

in this case it's notable that
there is a history of "...deception...fierce...fights...tricky..powerful..."
example
the deception and tricky duping of Diana
there was a 12 year age difference between her and Charles

When Charles was first introduced
to the future Princess of Wales during a grouse hunt at Althorp, the Spencer family home,
in November 1977, he was there dating her older sister, Sarah - a short-lived relationship
Sarah, went on to marry Neil McCorquodale
and reportedly said
she wouldn’t marry Charles “...if he were the dustman or the King of England...”
very wise of Sarah :)
her big sister may not have been head-over-heels
but 16-year-old Diana - vulnerable age
evidently had a different impression
telling her friends that one day she was going to marry Prince Charles
and laughing that he was, “...The one man on the planet who is not allowed to divorce me...”
according to THE DIANA CHRONICLES
The relationship didn’t heat up until Diana was 18-and-a-half.
“...I was asked to stay with some friends in Sussex and they said, ‘Oh, the Prince of Wales is staying,’
and I thought I hadn’t seen him in ages,,...”
she told her speech coach on a tape that was later used for the Channel 4 documentary
DIANA: IN HER OWN WORDS

“...He’d just broken up with his girlfriend and his friend Mountbatten had just been killed.
I said it would be nice to see him. I was so unimpressed.
I sat there and this man walked in and I thought, well, I am quite impressed this time round. I was different...”
The prince was smitten too.

“...He was all over me...” she said on the tapes.
”...We were talking about Mountbatten and his girlfriend and I said, ‘You must be so lonely.
It’s pathetic watching you walking up the aisle with Mountbatten’s coffin in front, ghastly
you need someone beside you....’
Whereupon he leapt upon me and started kissing me
and I thought, urgh, this is not what people do.
And he was all over me for the rest of the evening, following me around like a puppy....”

The couple famously met each other just 12 times before becoming engaged.
Unfortunately, those courtship butterflies were short lived.
“...We had this ghastly interview the day we announced our engagement,” she said.
“And this ridiculous [news] man said, ‘Are you in love?’ “I thought, what a thick question.
So I said, ‘Yes, of course, we are,’ and Charles turned round and said, ‘Whatever love means.’ A
nd that threw me completely. I thought, what a strange answer. It traumatized me....”

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ElenaJ said:
Yes.
The rest of your description of scorpio is brutal!!! Help!
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well let's check :)


www.standard.co.uk

Prince Charles ‘given €3m in cash in bags by Qatari politician’

The Sunday Times claimed the prince accepted large cash donations for his charity the Prince of Wales’s Charitable Fund
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to put it "...kindly..." if not "...thievish..."
Charles famously had accepted $3.1 million in cash donations from "...a Qatari billionaire..."
from the family of Osama bin Laden
Clarence House confirmed that the terrorist’s brothers donated money to the royal charity
between 2011 and 2015
some of which was received personally in a suitcase and shopping bags
his staff revealed they had to count the cash
apparently there were more than one such similar payments
But The Sunday Times reported that Prince Charles had brokered the payment
after a private meeting with Bakr bin Laden at Clarence House in London
on October 30, 2013, two years after Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan.
The paper also reported that the heir to the throne had agreed to accept the donation
despite the vocal objections of his own advisers.
some of the prince’s aides had warned Charles of the inevitable blowback
should it become known that his charity had accepted money
from the family of the man who orchestrated
the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, including 67 Britons


www.theguardian.com

Prince Charles given €3m in cash in bags by Qatari politician, according to report

Money was passed immediately to one of the prince’s charities, says Clarence House
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

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JUPITERASC said:
"...Mars in Sagittarius individual is bold and controversial in their actions.
They can be quite fanatical and vocal about their beliefs
They need to watch a tendency to bully or intimidate others.
They may have a lack of respect for others :)
which could cause a groundswell of opposition
that the native will eventually have to contend with..."
Curtis Manwaring
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"....THE FIRM..." :)
aka ColonisingIsUs
aka PillagingIsUs
aka StolenArtefactsRUs
CEO gone after seventy years

Charles has a child he sired with Camilla in their teens - who lives in Australia
that kid, now adult, is challenging his parents C&C right now in court for DNA testing :)
C waited many decades for the throne

World is watching to see how C treats his son and his family.
Interesting C made Jimmy Saville an adviser and close friend.



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Monday - 17th October 2022 at 22:08 MERCURY DIRECT RETURNS TO DEGREE at SIGNING
be interesting to note if any significant events :)
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Interestingly
Partial Solar ECLIPSE 4-degree orb natal Mercury & direct opposition natal moon :)

(local time): 25 October 2022 - 11:01 (BST, DST)
House system: Whole Sign system
Latitude, Longitude: 51°31'N, 0°8'W
City: London
Country: United Kingdom (GB)

PARTIAL ECLIPSE CHART
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