...and what came before the Jupiter Venus conjunction was the Jupiter Mercury conjunction of May 16, 2001 ... and should have been given first...again, my bad.
...and it did occur before a years time had gone by, although the Jupiter Venus and Jupiter Mars conjs. did come along in very close time.
Estimated to be at or as near to an exactly centered conjunction as I am capable of.
It came to my attention these last few hours, that there may be more than one way of interpreting a conjunction. For example take that of Jupiter and Venus ...as posted the centered conjunction chart above, Venus exited the same degree well ahead of Jupiter... by about a minute and twenty seconds ...but when Jupiter existed the same degree the M.C. of the event chart for Philadelphia, the natal birth place of the U.S.A. (is that correct in form, r.e. "the natal birth place"? or should one just write, "The place of nativity"?) just three seconds later the M.C. was in the same degree of the Tropical Zodiac that the U.S.A.'s natal Part of War (Asc. + Mars - Pluto) is located at, i.e. 14* Virgo 48' 51". At the very last moment Jupiter was in that same degree , minute and secondth of a degree that it was conjunct with Venus in, the M.C. was at 13* Virgo 59' 35" and at the next it was at 13* Virgo 59' 51". Thus the M.C. was well enough inside a one degree orb of conjunction to the USA's natal Part of War , Tropical Zodiac, at exit>
This leads to a hypothesis as to whether one should gauge the planetary effect of a conjunction, in ref. to this particular event as to pertaining to Jupiter's overall influence, as to when that particular planet is in its last moment of occupancy of the exact same coordinates, i.e. XX* XX' XX".
This last event of a Jupiter Saturn conj. may have provided us all with a bit more information than we bargained for... a rather profoundly bit more information if I may be so bold as to suggest?
...and it does make sense to me when I give it some reflection....that the very last moment of a planets conjunction with that coordinate would naturally be the lasting effect that is carried on into the future at that point. just like the very last ripple of the water when a pebble is tossed into a still pond...that last ripple ever expanding outwards is that which left the last impression, the "lasting" impression upon all that it came into contact with.
Here is the chart for the last moment that Jupiter was at the exact same degree, minute and secondths of a degree as to when it was conjunct Venus, i.e. 7:12:46 p.m. June 6, 2002
and the chart for three seconds later at 7:12:49 p.m. June 6, 2002.
...and as it was to become following after the date of Sept. 11, 2001 the combo of Jupiter and Venus conj. as per regarding the next 20 years of the United States was a combination that gave as the "WHY" of a mundane chart interpretation as being that of ONE with that which indicates "War" caused by ones own nature, r.e. what is derived as to be the Part of War from ones own natal chart.
