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Ukpoohbear

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No you’re right. I noticed after I had posted that I had proposed rather than a revering of Lilith an exultation of Eve. I really meant something - danker, much danker than what I ended up writing. Funny how that works, how strong the repressive and sublimating instinct is.

Naturally celebrations of Lilith would have more to do with ancient festivals of sexuality, of which not a lot has been verbally transmitted.

Vaguely on a tangential note to what was earlier discussed, it was said that Alcibiades was arrested and jailed for “possession and distribution of the Eleusian Mysteries”.

Yeah it does just show how far society is away from accepting Lilith. Women included in the non acceptance.

I guess an emergence of it can be seen in the popularity of Jungian psychology, which is popular in the spiritual circles on the internet - the idea of the scapegoat becoming the one to ‘break the chains of ancestral trauma,’ which is very Lilith.

Or maybe by nature, Lilith can never be a visible queen. She works in the quiet of the darkness like Pluto. I’m sure she doesn’t mind not being accepted and helps others to accept that too :)

But yep, it seems impossible to conjure up an image where Lilith is at the forefront and would be interesting to try and imagine it.
 

blacksun?

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Lilith is the disowned. And in turn in rage she disowns. I think. Ive gone through that. But disowning is robbing oneself. Lilith has a Pyrrhus victory.

That is why I feel she must be re-owned by means of rites. Not the ones I proposed, which aren’t even real rites. Essentially by honouring the women who have lived the Lilith path. And honouring in general the Lilith nature as well as the side of man that is drawn to it.

Weve come some ways in earlier decades, but Eve, in her need to be immaculate, is insanely strong.

I noticed that by writing the opposite of what I thought I was writing.
Very interesting.
Repression, sublimation....

But Crowley has transmitted these rites, hasn’t he? Such rites anyway.
Eve is content to let Adam govern her, but Adam is a beast with respect to Lilith, who is the rider.

Eve is the passive feminine, Lilith the active.
Adams passive side is the whole path of his seed through sin, as repression. And as blind obedience.

To emerge out of sin in clean Lust, this is the Aeonic task.

Geburah-Gedulah axis, Strength, Leo, Teth, Snake.

To walk above the Sun
 

blacksun?

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Yeah it does just show how far society is away from accepting Lilith. Women included in the non acceptance.

I guess an emergence of it can be seen in the popularity of Jungian psychology, which is popular in the spiritual circles on the internet - the idea of the scapegoat becoming the one to ‘break the chains of ancestral trauma,’ which is very Lilith.

Or maybe by nature, Lilith can never be a visible queen. She works in the quiet of the darkness like Pluto. I’m sure she doesn’t mind not being accepted and helps others to accept that too :)

But yep, it seems impossible to conjure up an image where Lilith is at the forefront and would be interesting to try and imagine it.
Aha okay
That’s very interesting what you said right there about the scapegoat
Could you elaborate or link?
Also noted your point about Lilith not minding to stay in the shadows.

To conjure such an impossible image has been what I’ve been attempting since the end of 2015.
 

blacksun?

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"women included"
very much so - but men are the worst. The way men repress women, the true instincts, the true loves of women, the way men are cowards - the sheer, bottomless cowardice of men who are stiff, stuck, who have no knowledge of the horned one, or Diana, who can not dance, who are fearful of those that can -

our society deserves to go down if it doesnt defeat that cowardice.
But so many in it do not deserve it, as they've forever been battling this cowardice.

The danger is that when it goes down, something will be victorious that is even more cowardly.

So we must win this thing.
 
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blacksun?

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"Our herded kine were moving in the dawn
Up to the peaks, the greyest, coldest time,
When the first rays steal earthward, and the rime
Yields, when I saw three bands of them. The one
Autonoë led, one Ino, one thine own
Mother, Agâvê. There beneath the trees
Sleeping they lay, like wild things flung at ease
In the forest; one half sinking on a bed
Of deep pine greenery; one with careless head
Amid the fallen oak leaves; all most cold
In purity—not as thy tale was told
Of wine-cups and wild music and the chase
For love amid the forest's loneliness.
Then rose the Queen Agâvê suddenly
Amid her band, and gave the God's wild cry,
"Awake, ye Bacchanals! I hear the sound
Of hornèd kine. Awake ye!"—Then, all round,
Alert, the warm sleep fallen from their eyes,
A marvel of swift ranks I saw them rise,
Dames young and old, and gentle maids unwed
Among them. O'er their shoulders first they shed
Their tresses, and caught up the fallen fold
Of mantles where some clasp had loosened hold,
And girt the dappled fawn-skins in with long
Quick snakes that hissed and writhed with quivering tongue.
And one a young fawn held, and one a wild
Wolf cub, and fed them with white milk, and smiled
In love, young mothers with a mother's breast
And babes at home forgotten! Then they pressed
Wreathed ivy round their brows, and oaken sprays
And flowering bryony. And one would raise
Her wand and smite the rock, and straight a jet
Of quick bright water came. Another set
Her thyrsus in the bosomed earth, and there
Was red wine that the God sent up to her,
A darkling fountain. And if any lips
Sought whiter draughts, with dipping finger-tips
They pressed the sod, and gushing from the ground
Came springs of milk. And reed-wands ivy-crowned
Ran with sweet honey, drop by drop.—O King,
Hadst thou been there, as I, and seen this thing,
With prayer and most high wonder hadst thou gone
To adore this God whom now thou rail'st upon!"

- Euripides, Bacchae
 

blacksun?

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We had lofty plans, when I arrived in Canada, but indeed family patterns prevented me from bringing them to fruition. Whats there of the beginning is only these seedlings, from which not much could be told - I moved on to different forms then, of trying to liberate that which now needs to be liberated lest our world gives way to our mens cowardice, and falls prey to a world of even greater cowards - a world where the individual itself is disowned as a whole, a world of true, self-priding slavery, slavery as the last form of bliss.

I deleted the video at first, then I felt hollow and sad, now I post it again with its predecessor - it isn't much, Ill admit - not compared to what it should have been, many have been had I not fallen prey to my self-pity, to that which I confessed to after David revived this thread.
 

blacksun?

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Thanks! No we never ended up finishing a product, but then the story as it might evolve wasn’t dawning entirely on me then, we had just caught the scent.

I let myself be lured away from this high art. I d/evolved into music - let go of Apollo. Only by his power could I do it again.
 

blacksun?

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The past it was that lured me, patterns so fierce and weird I could not resist.

These patterns are Orlog, it is said that eight generations of ancestors vie for power in us.

Good luck identifying all those 1024 souls.

On the other hand, thats a wealth in powers.
 

Humanitarian

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"women included"
very much so - but men are the worst. The way men repress women, the true instincts, the true loves of women, the way men are cowards - the sheer, bottomless cowardice of men who are stiff, stuck, who have no knowledge of the horned one, or Diana, who can not dance, who are fearful of those that can -

our society deserves to go down if it doesnt defeat that cowardice.
But so many in it do not deserve it, as they've forever been battling this cowardice.

The danger is that when it goes down, something will be victorious that is even more cowardly.

So we must win this thing.
Males aren't universally bad, and sometimes even more Lilithian than overly conservative and traditional women who don't accept the Lilithian archetype in people...
 
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