Jupiter-Time, 400 day calendar, approaching the Scorpioyear!

[blacksun?]

And I mean something much wilder than what I seem to be saying. Too wild to be saying it outright.
Something collective, something Royal, something somewhat Minoan

Probably should involve dolphins
Bulls,
Gold,
Azure

By the power of the Trident

“Green is the color of anger”
(Jupiter)
I know I know this is why I stopped philosophy

It’s just too heretic
For a time like this

But as almost men now are sly and grimacing, what is a shaman to do?

“The ancient lake baby”

 

[blacksun?]

So to be fair, what there is to do now is not a restoration of affairs as they once were - It is only now that mankind is in the position to become godmankind and dedicate true glory to Earth, as before so many animals have done- only now, in his despair, is man ready to become full being, no longer a bridge to something, no longer a crossing-over, no longer “a sign without significance” or “symbol without meaning” - (Holderlin) but well, der bloody Uebermensch
As N said, the highest woman is rarer and higher than the highest man.

 

[blacksun?]

Ok let me not be a tease and say it outright after all
I believe we need a word-queen
A queen in fact for every season.
An elected queen, not a political ruler but a lady of the people
Naturally they ought to be selected from the pool of all cultures, not in any particular order; a queen from the ME would be of different qualities than one from America, and we do not know how high woman is, we can only find out empirically
There is no precedent.
For America, I presume to be as simple as to point at a pop singer first name starting with an A.

The first baby step is the most gigantic leap.

 

[blacksun?]

Yes, tread into banality
I must acknowledge descent
Man must take his position below woman
As a sign of good faith
Or like Tom Joad crawling under the truck after he met the One Eyed
Man does not understand woman, that must at least be the premise, for this process to begin its sifting
Woman holds all the cards, man stil decides what game we’re playing

 

[blacksun?]

By Jupiter’s orb! But then philosophy must have to really give trust and not keep queenhood symbolic - there must be executive power involved in it, I only understood that after I understood how that works - admirers are invited to transfer gifts upon the wearer of the throned and crowned (young - Kabbalah) woman and she must be at liberty or in duty to spend it on her Planet as she sees fit.

Of course within the law, but then the law, or so I have heard, is love.

 

[Opal]

Very well stated.

Lilith asked for equality. Her vengeance, to those that even had the nuts, to request she go back to her rapist, was justified. In my opinion anyway.

God’s response was interesting, he treated her as more of an equal, not someone under his dominion.

Carnal lust and caring. As mine are water, I feel that she is similar to Chiron, pointing out the pains, and the ecstasies, from a feminine perspective.

 

[Opal]

By Jupiter’s orb! But then philosophy must have to really give trust and not keep queenhood symbolic - there must be executive power involved in it, I only understood that after I understood how that works - admirers are invited to transfer gifts upon the wearer of the throned and crowned (young - Kabbalah) woman and she must be at liberty or in duty to spend it on her Planet as she sees fit.

Of course within the law, but then the law, or so I have heard, is love.

Equality. Without it, there is nothing else.

That was all she requested.

Her rage comes, from her intelligence, and the disbelief that she was admonished because of his ****.

 

[david starling]

About the sole domicile-ruler of , : I'm more convinced about than ever: Her Greco/Roman archetype is Ourania/Urania(Roman name for Ourania), goddess of the Heavens; NOT her grandfather, Ouranos/Caelus(Roman name for Ouranos), god of the Heavens.

So, we have 3 female Roman archetypal domicile-rulers--; ; AND, .

Interesting symbolism for the eleventh sign in the digital numerals: "11", side-by-side partnership; and, on its side, "=", equality.

 

[Opal]

I wish to mention to the violently anti-Trump that I am in no way racist or intolerant - my friends and lovers include of all kinds of races and religions. Ive en considered turning to Islam just to be able to be with someone I love. That is my Aquarian nature, I really do not give a flying -- for these things. I just hate shows like "dear white people", which is as blatantly racist as the Klu Klux Klan.

I have read, that Aquarian’s prefer not being pinned down. They are comfortable with themselves, and don’t like the rules set forth in most relationships. You wouldn’t care about race, more about liking, the specialized interests you have, with you. Equally.

 

[Opal]

About the sole domicile-ruler of , : I'm more convinced about than ever: Her Greco/Roman archetype is Ourania/Urania(Roman name for Ourania), goddess of the Heavens; NOT her grandfather, Ouranos/Caelus(Roman name for Ouranos), god of the Heavens.

So, we have 3 female Roman archetypal domicile-rulers--; ; AND, .

Interesting symbolism for the eleventh sign in the digital numerals: "11", side-by-side partnership; and, on its side, "=", equality.

I see Taurus as more Venusian, Feminine sign, 2nd house. When Libra’s planet, shows up, will be in fair time!!!!😁😆

♒️side by side lightning, also represents Aquarius and Uranus.

 

[david starling]

The Aquarius glyph can be visualized schematically as 2 seagulls, flying together in formation, befitting for an Air-sign. As for a "Fixed"-Air sign, seagulls can hold still in the wind.

 

[Opal]

Good observation!!!

 

[david starling]

I see Taurus as more Venusian, Feminine sign, 2nd house. When Libra’s planet, shows up, will be in fair time!!!!😁😆

♒️side by side lightning, also represents Aquarius and Uranus.

I agree to disagree on both counts.

But, that doesn't really matter. What DOES matter is that BOTH AND have a Latin FEMALE archetype, as does the Moon. Emotionally speaking, there's excellent rapport between the 3 of them, imo.

imo (Lightning belongs to sky-ruler Jupiter; and, the goddess of Justice, holding the scales and a sword(Air-sign suit in tarot), is Venus as Morning-star. Taurus gets the sensual Evening-star version. This was originally the case involving Inanna/Ishtar in ancient Sumeria: fighting against evil by day, & making love by night.)

 

[Opal]

Shocking Blue Venus

 

[david starling]

Hell with it. Scairt to say this because its so real and sacred but, something is going on with our Sun.
Maybe its reaching a certain stage in its lifespan, maturing. I tell you something is changing about it.
Maybe thats why old Elon has put up the iron spacecurtain. But, I recommend investigation. I shouldn't say more than that.

Part of The Sun Has Broken Off And Formed a Vortex… What The Heck Is Going on?

 

[Ukpoohbear]

Unbelievable moment a piece of the sun BREAKS OFF baffles scientists

NASA captured the moment a filament of plasma breaks off from the sun and then starts circulating around the northern pole like a tornado - an event never seen by human eyes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[blacksun?]

Toleya

Haha
Thanks for the link
Yeah she’s going through some growth issues, our dear Sun

On that whole Queen of the Planet thing, I noticed as I had written it that like this it seems trivial dreaming, nonsense really - I noticed the important things can’t be phrased, can’t be said. Nature likes to hide and magic is nature at her finest.

Equality - okay then let’s go for that.

But we need ritual to consecrate what’s in us.

“Express what you have in you and it will set you free, keep it in and it’ll kill you.”
-many, many wizards

 

[blacksun?]

Sun
Wild beast
Offering, harboring wild beasts
Calling to us in our wild beast
Calling
Beckoning just by being there
Terribly
Just there
Shadows wash in front of you
And here we are
Legions
Wounded we are
But here.

 

[Ukpoohbear]

I like the idea of equality.

It does seem to be a human nature thing to make a Queen of Hearts, but there seems to be a tragedy associated with the Queen of Hearts as well.

The Queen archetype seems to closely fit the Eve archetype and the Lilith archetype is shunned.

For eg, Princess Diana - Eve and her counterpart Lilith would be the now Queen Consort Camilla.

Marilyn Monroe - another tragic early death, Queen of Heart’s.

Britney Spears was portrayed as America’s sweetheart before she had a tragic downfall and is now shunned as a Lilith archetype. (Did she need to die like Princess Diana and Marilyn Monroe in order to still be pure enough to be loved?)

 

[blacksun?]

I like the idea of equality.

It does seem to be a human nature thing to make a Queen of Hearts, but there seems to be a tragedy associated with the Queen of Hearts as well.

The Queen archetype seems to closely fit the Eve archetype and the Lilith archetype is shunned.

For eg, Princess Diana - Eve and her counterpart Lilith would be the now Queen Consort Camilla.

Marilyn Monroe - another tragic early death, Queen of Heart’s.

Britney Spears was portrayed as America’s sweetheart before she had a tragic downfall and is now shunned as a Lilith archetype. (Did she need to die like Princess Diana and Marilyn Monroe in order to still be pure enough to be loved?)

No you’re right. I noticed after I had posted that I had proposed rather than a revering of Lilith an exultation of Eve. I really meant something - danker, much danker than what I ended up writing. Funny how that works, how strong the repressive and sublimating instinct is.

Naturally celebrations of Lilith would have more to do with ancient festivals of sexuality, of which not a lot has been verbally transmitted.

Vaguely on a tangential note to what was earlier discussed, it was said that Alcibiades was arrested and jailed for “possession and distribution of the Eleusian Mysteries”.