Is this the end of our relationship?

[juliet]

Our relationship started online 3 years ago but we haven't met often because of the distance (1 hour flight) and his very busy career. Since the situation does not look as if it will change, I have wanted to end it. Tried nearly a year ago but it didn't work. I missed him terribly and we decided to give it another chance. Now, I told him that it must end, and we could still stay in touch.

So, could this now be the end for us? I feel the decision is really his. I am so weak as far as he is concerned, that he could change my mind if he wanted to.

The horary below may help me to see things better, for which i would be hugely grateful.

He is Mars and I am Venus, which places us on an equal footing. Mars is in detriment in Libra, but in the 1st house, which shows he is more keen for the relationship to continue.

This is the very first time I have seen an aspect between him and me in a horary chart - a trine. This to me looks like an applying aspect. What would that mean given the question? Thank you.

 

[IleneK]

The trine between you/Venus and him/Mars perfected a while ago, perhaps when matters were more harmonious between you. But they do not apply to an aspect now. And from a traditional horary viewpoint, Mars is actually in the 2nd house, positioned so close to its cusp.

But most important, I think, is the reception between your significators. With him/Mars being in the sign of Venus' dignity, it shows that you still receive him well. However, you/Venus are in the sign of Mars' fall, so you are not received so well by him in this matter of staying together.

If you have known each other for three years, are only an hour apart by air, and still have met only on occasion, it seems to me that your emotional energy might be much better spent elsewhere and this might be the time to end the relationship.

 

[Marinka]

I use equal houses, all planets, and moon marks events ---

Moon inc Mars - break and adjust angle. Mars is him, time to on and adjust your life.
Moon sxt sun - maybe finishing this as friends or maybe better, as just acquaintances.

Venus and Mars angle has already occurred - so it is over.

 

[juliet]

Thank you Ilanek,

We meet infrequently. Only once in 6/7 months, if lucky. There are many people who would be happy to continue with such a relationship, always waiting to unite. That to me is just depressing. Whichever way I look it is difficult. A break up is horrible, to say the least.

 

[tikana]

hmm interesting

i am getting a yes as for the end because look at Mars it is void and about to change signs. it's like two planets are moving away from each other.

i hope i am wrong

T

 

[juliet]

hmm interesting

i am getting a yes as for the end because look at Mars it is void and about to change signs. it's like two planets are moving away from each other.

i hope i am wrong. T

Hi Tikana,
That seems to concur with what Ilanek and Marinka said, doesn't it? That Venus and Mars are separating?

 

[tikana]

Juliet

if a guy wanted to b with you, he would have found the time in those 3 years. I HIGHLY doubt that his career life was taking over him 24 hours and 7 days a week.

T

 

[juliet]

Yes, certainly more than once every 7 months. Thanks. Helps to hear some common sense. I shouldn't be so anxious about my own decisions.

 

[Love2Know]

Yes, certainly more than once every 7 months. Thanks. Helps to hear some common sense. I shouldn't be so anxious about my own decisions.

^^^^^^^^^^^ exactly

 

[amandajoie]

I agree yes it is over venus in his 4th house of endings. Moon in 8th, did you ever give him money?

 

[juliet]

I agree yes it is over venus in his 4th house of endings. Moon in 8th, did you ever give him money?

No, I didn't give him money, just alternated paying for meals. What made you ask that?

 

[venuschild]

Is that 26 or 28 Sun in Cancer?

Can't tell..querant with holding data!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!

I wish people wouldn't be so shy about the data, it's tough on the consultants!

If it's 26 degrees, Sun is squaring Mars, generally a NO INDICATOR; NO being it is not the end.

How can we consult this without the nessasary data?

But other testimonies must be consulted!

Or how can we gather this without the data?

But the artist has NOT provided details, soooo amateurish when they are sharing and asking for help!

Simple form for Scorpio secret agent man horoscopes: Go East or West 15, 30, 45, 60, 75 degrees in longitude while using the nearly the same latitude Degrees & Minutes and Oooh - La -La almost the same horoscope with only a few minor minutes of difference in the chart!

Now doesn't that make better form than omitted data?

Why?

Because variables like a planet's speed can NOT be noted from your negligent map, there are reasons we include the data!

So James Bond(Scorpio), can we have a correct horoscope to work with to avoid the amateur hour type charts?

 

[juliet]

If you enlarge the screen, 28 degrees is clearly visible. Perhaps, reducing the size of the chart wasn't such a good idea.

But your tone!! Given that you are the bearer of interesting tidings, I will not take offence. Is this below less amateurish?

Thanks for taking an interest. Would like to hear what you think.

 

[Vista]

South Node in the 7th house = NO

Uranus in the 7th, not used in horary typically but worth noting due to being in the 7th house. None of the signficators are aspecting Uranus however Uranus always points to unpredictability, instability or in your case, an abrupt ending perhaps?

 

[venuschild]

Juliet:

But your tone!! Given that you are the bearer of interesting tidings, I will not take offence. Is this below less amateurish

Here's what you don't understand:

A)Without the time, date and co-ordinates how can you calculate the lord of the hour to see if the horary is in sinc by the planet or in it's triplicity?

http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp

http://hours.geocosmic.org/cgi-bin/chart/Input.exe?PARAM=RP&FINALFORM=ncgr.html

http://hours.geocosmic.org/cgi-bin/chart/Input.exe?PARAM=RP&FINALFORM=ncgr.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_hours

http://easycalculation.com/date-day/planetary-hours.php

B) How are we who are dealing with a phantom mystery horoscope as we don't even have alternative data to arrive at the same map as I previously posted how to do it, how can we as your consultants tell how fast the Moon is moving and the speeds of the other planets without the map, true or alternative as cited?

As in this table how can anyone but you tell of if the Moon is slow in motion or any of the other planets are slow in motion in order to properly give them their respective amount of points as is shown within this table:

We can Not, we your consultants are left in the dark aren't we?

C) Wouldn't it be very helpful to those you ask for counsel if they had the aspect grid provided when one calculates a horoscope from astro.com when you have the map that has an icon above the map if you calculate the chart at 75% size which says ADDITIONAL TABLES (PDF)?

Why do we care to know the speed of the planets, particularly Luna?

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6497

http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2012/07/08/lessons-in-horary-astrology-lesson-2-planets-your-tools/

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7737

http://books.google.com/books?id=O3GODMFBfzMC&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq='horary+moons+speed+slow+moon+motion''&source=bl&ots=2Dz7UtEY7C&sig=1hGjESo9tOzF-W9ESagM6tVmez4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MxHQU-LIPIqBogSRioLABQ&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q='horary%20moons%20speed%20slow%20moon%20motion''&f=false

http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/aphor/aphor.html

15.A Planet that is slow in motion, prolongs the thing questited after, so that it's hardly performed; the nautre of the Signe wherein the Planet is, doth herein much advantage the judgment.

http://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/a-horary-glossary/

See in the above document where it says: AVERAGE DAILY MOTION, MEAN MOTION, & SLOW IN MOTION

If you absorb what is being said above you'll realize that you have just waded into horary astrology and those who have not, or will not, or don't understand how important the speeds of planets are and the lord of the hour are telling everyone what level of horary they are presently at!

And as stated, we all start somewhere but staying in the same place isn't this called inertia?

This site more than explains what I'm saying under the section FOLLOW THE RULES:

https://www.light.org/Doctrine-of-Horary-Astrology-SL089.cfm

No I'm not in the least picking on you, we all start as novices, beginners, some move up to intermediates, and others whom are very sincere and earnest write books that are baffling in that they are confused upon certain concepts yet enlightened upon other points, while a few become iconic because of their success, knowledge, and wisdom!

Then there are giants, mentors of astrology like Olivia Barclay that revolutionized horary by asking us, telling us, '...if we don't read the mentors of the distant past do we really truly understand what we are attempting to do in horary...'?

I remember years ago on the first page of astro.com website this current icon astrologer, Robert Hand wrote '...of since the Renaissance astrology has under gone a devolution into a pseudo-science to many..', I'm committed as many are on Forums and else where that it evolves in this dawning of the Age of Aquarius back into a Divine science!

Yet will omitting valuable data, will this detract from horary excellence and look bad on this open forum as if we aren't that dedicated, or it's just a bunch of non-sense and a pseudo science that others should disregard because we aren't appearing noteworthy to the public?

Jupiterasc says it best:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76928

Hello Diogo and welcome to our mixed-ability astrological learning forum where although many of us are complete beginners, others similar to yourself have had an interest and studied for two years and we also have members who have many decades of astrological study completed so we learn by discussion and exchange of astrological opinion

 

[juliet]

Venuschild,

If what you say is truly necessary, then should there not be a consensus reached with the moderators and instructions provided? Is this something that needs to be decided with them first? Everyone, as far as I can see, does and continues to post horaries as I did.

 

[juliet]

South Node in the 7th house = NO

Uranus in the 7th, not used in horary typically but worth noting due to being in the 7th house. None of the signficators are aspecting Uranus however Uranus always points to unpredictability, instability or in your case, an abrupt ending perhaps?

Vista,

Thank you for your input. So, if the SN in 7th house means that the relationship might continue, would Uranus offset that with its unpredictability?

Uranus certainly spelt instability - the ending was brewing, as it were, and was discussed off and on. Whilst it may have seemed sudden to him, it was not to me, but we will still stay in touch.

 

[venuschild]

Juliet:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/faq.php?faq=horary#faq_horary_astrology_boards


If you have digested this GUIDELINES page, under horary chart data you can see it is insisted upon by the Forum for date, time, place(Latitude & Longitude), yet some children don't wish to read the rules nor abide by suggestions nor rules. And the Moderators don't truly wish to be like a policeman sitting in our homes to make sure we behave nor be covertly incognito spying on everyone; they wish us to be respectful adults.

If you note many forum rules and proper etiquette in the past via this Forum were clearly out of line, way to compromised and finally the hammer had to swing upon the apparent foes!

But those who post best and studious do they get more worthy bites and maybe others are just ignored?

 

[Marinka]

Venuschild,

If what you say is truly necessary, then should there not be a consensus reached with the moderators and instructions provided? Is this something that needs to be decided with them first? Everyone, as far as I can see, does and continues to post horaries as I did.

Juliet .. astrologers have their own procedures for doing horary charts. Normally in a "professional setting", a client would call an astrologer and discuss the questions and the details determined by the astrologer (time & place). In a forum setting, that is not possible as there is not an astrologer waiting for your question so you are expected to form the question and create your own chart. Most people like to hide the details and that is acceptable. If someone wants more details, they ask and if you refuse, that's fine.

Note, with natal charts, some astrologers have their own programs and want to have the original data to run their programs to generate results. He/She would let you know if they want it and it's up to you to decide whether to give it. Again, you can refuse.

What you provided was fine ...... as you can see, many astrologers responded with their interpretations.