Is This Relationship Worth It? - Please Help!

Beachnan

Member
Hello,

Asking again for some guidance on our synastry. I feel like we were fated to meet and we’ve had an instant connection and attraction. I also so some of the frictional elements in our synastry that has already reared its head. We’ve been together now 6 months.

We’re both working through past relationship issues, but I’m wondering if ours is a relationship that can endure in the long run and is it worth it for me to continue to invest my time and energy in because we have something beautiful and worth pursuing from our charts that isn’t a fleeting relationship but something substantial that’s long lasting?
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.madeleine.grace.

Well-known member
Hello,

Asking again for some guidance on our synastry. I feel like we were fated to meet and we’ve had an instant connection and attraction. I also so some of the frictional elements in our synastry that has already reared its head. We’ve been together now 6 months.

We’re both working through past relationship issues, but I’m wondering if ours is a relationship that can endure in the long run and is it worth it for me to continue to invest my time and energy in because we have something beautiful and worth pursuing from our charts that isn’t a fleeting relationship but something substantial that’s long lasting? View attachment 96286View attachment 96287
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.madeleine.grace.

Well-known member
Honestly, I’d say this relationship has so much potential for the both of you! Great opportunities, mutual understanding, emotional comfort. This is beautiful, but whether or not it ends lies completely with you. I do believe your partner finds much comfort in you, so it’s very doubtful he’d be the one to break things off unless he thought it were for the better- meaning for your sake. Here’s some of what I see in your synastry

Synastry Report by Madeleine Grace, Made for Beachnan (Person 2)
Person 1: Taurus Sun
Person 2: Cancer Sun

With a Sun (♉️) trine Moon (♍️) aspect, there is a naturally harmonious connection with one another. The Sun supports his partner’s emotional expression and can even sense his partner’s feelings. He tends to take on the leadership role in the relationship, initiating action. Meanwhile, the Moon has a calming effect on the Sun and is excepting of his overall energy.

A Sun (♉️) square Lilith (♌️) aspect provides a beautiful hunger to grow as individuals and as a couple. There is a negative side to this aspect, which is the possibility of too much tension. There may be an excessive expectation to grow, so that if one falls behind, the other may grow impatient on the pace of their partner’s growth. This doesn’t have to be a negative aspect, so long as you use this tension to fuel each other to overcome the obstacles.

Another positive aspect with the Sun (♉️), this time a sextile with the Midheaven (♓️). This aspect brings a beautiful sense of financial and emotional security, from the Sun to the Midheaven. The Sun encourages the Midheaven to greater ambition and effort, likely pushing her to achieve a social status and/or success. Great aspect for family relationships, business relationships, and/or marital relationships.

Here, there is Moon (♌️) sextile Venus (♊️). The Moon has a secure and intuitive feeling that Venus will be there for him in the most loving and caring way. He believes the relationship can and will grow in many ways, but most looked forward to, an increased emotional security between him and his partner and between his partner and him. The Moon feels a strong sense of devotion and will feel very nurturing toward her. There is a great chance of the Moon desiring the creation of a harmonious home and family with Venus.

Moon (♌️) conjunct Lilith (♌️), a somewhat challenging aspect, but certainly not one that can’t be fixed with the right kind and amount of TLC, which this aspect also insures is there. Here, the Moon and Lilith have a very intense emotional connection, but that can be a little painful at times. The Moon has much love and trust for Lilith, but has some troubles and painful memories/experiences of his own that Lilith can’t help but trigger from time to time. Once again, it’s nothing that can’t be resolved.

This Moon (♌️) sextile Ascendant (♊️) aspect is also positive. The Moon adjusts well to the Ascendant’s way of expression, manner, approach, and outlook on life and in general. All of which can even have a comforting effect on him. The Ascendant can help her partner overcome emotional problems so as to achieve more security. This aspect can improve prospects for emotional compatibility and understanding of each others modes of self-expression.
 

IleneK

Premium Member
The synastry has a lot of nice features. The Sun Moon trine, which is almost exact by degree and in earth, is lovely. Moon in Virgo is very drawn to Sun in a Taurus by reception.
And exalted Jup conjunct the other Cancer Sun, with Jup also exalting that Sun, well, that feels very good for Cancer Sun and is good fortune, too.

In terms of longevity, there is a very close sextile, ( for opportunity), between your Saturn and both of your Venuses, each of which both conjunct your Ascendant. So you tend toward longevity in relationship on your own and this other person feels the honest expression of that in you.

Communication between you is something of a challenge. Both of your Mercuries do trine by sign, which is inherently harmonious. But they make no aspects with any planets in the other’s chart. So this is something you would want to talk about (no pun intended 😊). Open the subject when things are easy between you to figure out how best to communicate when things aren’t easy between you.

So there is a foundation for getting along, liking what you see in the other and how you treat each other. There is potential. And you see the challenges manifested in the hard aspects between planets.

The truth is I don’t think a synastry chart can tell if a relationship will last in the long term. I think it depends more on the commitment between two people to kindly and compassionately work through all the s**t that will continually come up in every relationship, no matter how harmonious the synastry is.

If you both feel that commitment in your bones then there is a good chance of success in experiencing a long lasting and satisfying relationship.
 

Beachnan

Member
Thank you both for your replies. This is so helpful. I know that we have this amazing connection and some learnings along the way.

To confirm, I’m the inner circle and he’s the outer. I don’t have exact time of birth, so would the chart vary much from what you see it here other than knowing the houses his planets reside in?
 

Beachnan

Member
If you’d like, I can study it more tomorrow
That would be great. Thank you kindly. I’m attaching the other synastry chart I’ve looked at and here is where my confusion lies. Again, because I don’t know his birth time, I use 12pm as a standard.

There are some differences with this chart.

I’m especially curious to know about our:

My Moon square his Venus
My Venus opposite his Neptune
My Sun opposite his Uranus
Mercury square mercury
His Sun square my Pluto

How impactful are these aspects? Is there anything else here that we have to be mindful of?

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.madeleine.grace.

Well-known member
I don’t have exact time of birth, so would the chart vary much from what you see it here other than knowing the houses his planets reside in?
If we were to have the birth time, it would vary, but not by too much. The information we’ve already provided isn’t likely (at all) to change once/if the birth time is provided. The report as a whole, on the other hand, that is what varies. From what I assume you’ve read above, some of the chart reading did include your Ascendant and your Midheaven and -if completed- later on your Vertex and your Part of Fortune. So, if the birth time were included, it would only add more aspects and wouldn’t be likely to take away from what we’ve already seen in your chart- unless they were stronger aspects that were opposing others.

Basically, the answer is:

It would only add more information about the relationship, not change the information on the relationship.
 

Beachnan

Member
The synastry has a lot of nice features. The Sun Moon trine, which is almost exact by degree and in earth, is lovely. Moon in Virgo is very drawn to Sun in a Taurus by reception.
And exalted Jup conjunct the other Cancer Sun, with Jup also exalting that Sun, well, that feels very good for Cancer Sun and is good fortune, too.

In terms of longevity, there is a very close sextile, ( for opportunity), between your Saturn and both of your Venuses, each of which both conjunct your Ascendant. So you tend toward longevity in relationship on your own and this other person feels the honest expression of that in you.

Communication between you is something of a challenge. Both of your Mercuries do trine by sign, which is inherently harmonious. But they make no aspects with any planets in the other’s chart. So this is something you would want to talk about (no pun intended 😊). Open the subject when things are easy between you to figure out how best to communicate when things aren’t easy between you.

So there is a foundation for getting along, liking what you see in the other and how you treat each other. There is potential. And you see the challenges manifested in the hard aspects between planets.

The truth is I don’t think a synastry chart can tell if a relationship will last in the long term. I think it depends more on the commitment between two people to kindly and compassionately work through all the s**t that will continually come up in every relationship, no matter how harmonious the synastry is.

If you both feel that commitment in your bones then there is a good chance of success in experiencing a long lasting and satisfying relationship.
I attached another synastry chart where is shows our mercuries are square.

Regardless, communication is most definitely one of our challenging areas. I’m learning how to communicate with him as he is stubborn with his way of communicating. I find in the moment he either shuts down or takes things personally. my follow up to our ‘misunderstandings’ usually softens when we miscommunicate.
 

IleneK

Premium Member
Thank you both for your replies. This is so helpful. I know that we have this amazing connection and some learnings along the way.

To confirm, I’m the inner circle and he’s the outer. I don’t have exact time of birth, so would the chart vary much from what you see it here other than knowing the houses his planets reside in?
Moon is a key feeling connection indicator in our charts and in synastry.
In a noon chart Moon may be plus or minus six degrees off. If Moon is at the early or late part of a sign, it can also be in the wrong sign. So no birth time matters, but you can still look at it. You will know more about how it affects the one asking, the one in the center of the chart, since you won't know the areas of life in the other person's chart. Like if you Sun is in the other person's 7th [good] or 8th or 12th [not so good]. Also you will not be able to know if any of your planets aspect the other person's angles, especially the 1st/7th.
 

.madeleine.grace.

Well-known member
That would be great. Thank you kindly. I’m attaching the other synastry chart I’ve looked at and here is where my confusion lies. Again, because I don’t know his birth time, I use 12pm as a standard.

There are some differences with this chart.

I’m especially curious to know about our:

My Moon square his Venus
My Venus opposite his Neptune
My Sun opposite his Uranus
Mercury square mercury
His Sun square my Pluto

How impactful are these aspects? Is there anything else here that we have to be mindful of?

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Those are impactful aspects. I personally believe every aspect should be taken into consideration, even per person. The “luminaries” as they call it are typically the most impactful. Here’s something I made that you might find interest in. It might just answer some of your questions. It’s printable if it’s something you’d want to keep with you physically.
 

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Beachnan

Member
Moon is a key feeling connection indicator in our charts and in synastry.
In a noon chart Moon may be plus or minus six degrees off. If Moon is at the early or late part of a sign, it can also be in the wrong sign. So no birth time matters, but you can still look at it. You will know more about how it affects the one asking, the one in the center of the chart, since you won't know the areas of life in the other person's chart. Like if you Sun is in the other person's 7th [good] or 8th or 12th [not so good]. Also you will not be able to know if any of your planets aspect the other person's angles, especially the 1st/7th.
This is quite helpful. I never know how to go about asking for his birth time. So as I’m understanding, there would be some differences in the chart based on his true birth time, but many of these aspects between he and I would remain the same?
 

Beachnan

Member
Those are impactful aspects. I personally believe every aspect should be taken into consideration, even per person. The “luminaries” as they call it are typically the most impactful. Here’s something I made that you might find interest in. It might just answer some of your questions. It’s printable if it’s something you’d want to keep with you physically.
Thanks -you’ve created a very interesting chart. I’m going to print and study more.
 

IleneK

Premium Member
This is quite helpful. I never know how to go about asking for his birth time. So as I’m understanding, there would be some differences in the chart based on his true birth time, but many of these aspects between he and I would remain the same?
Yes, all the other aspects between planets, excluding Moon, would remain the same.
 

.madeleine.grace.

Well-known member
Hello! I’d say “good morning” as it’s 9:42 AM, but this might not be your time zone lol. I’m gonna look into the chart right now. If you have any more questions, now is the perfect time to ask!
 

.madeleine.grace.

Well-known member
Your Moon (♍️) square his Venus (♊️) shows a romantic attraction for your partner. These feelings you have for him are very hard to ignore, but it’s hard to tend to it when you have to tend to emotional issues from a past relationship. This aspect is characterized by dealings of the past by one or both persons of the relationship.

Your Venus (♊️) opposite his Neptune (♐️). You’re so deeply in love with him that you tend to idealize the romance. This romantic idealization, or even fantasy, can keep you from truly getting to know your partner, and/or the other way around.

“My Sun opposite his Uranus”
There is no Sun-Uranus opposition

“Mercury square mercury”
There is no Mercury-Mercury square.

“His Sun square my Pluto “
There is no Sun-Pluto Square
 

Beachnan

Member
Your Moon (♍️) square his Venus (♊️) shows a romantic attraction for your partner. These feelings you have for him are very hard to ignore, but it’s hard to tend to it when you have to tend to emotional issues from a past relationship. This aspect is characterized by dealings of the past by one or both persons of the relationship.

Your Venus (♊️) opposite his Neptune (♐️). You’re so deeply in love with him that you tend to idealize the romance. This romantic idealization, or even fantasy, can keep you from truly getting to know your partner, and/or the other way around.

“My Sun opposite his Uranus”
There is no Sun-Uranus opposition

“Mercury square mercury”
There is no Mercury-Mercury square.

“His Sun square my Pluto “
There is no Sun-Pluto Square
Thanks for the additional information. When I used a couple of different reports, I get some variances with the aspects. Some have mercury square mercury along with the other aspects I mentioned above. Again, the variances may be due to no birth time for him?

I’ve added another report that shows we do have some of these other aspects and recognizing his moon, ascendant and descendant are not entirely accurate, my biggest questions would be :

Is this a relationship based on our synastry that is enduring? What does is say about how he ‘feels’ about me (I know me being a Sun cancer everything is about feeling lol)
What should I be contentious about when it domes to him and his placements (his areas of difficulty).
I just want to make sure this a relationship worth pursuing and this is someone that will have my best interests at heart and not someone that will take my kindness for granted or weakness.
 
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