There's no credible modern astrological definition of 'an astrological planet'Well it won't unless it's proved it isn't
That's a matter of opinion
which it hasn't been thus far
has it occurred to any of the dwarf planet pluto afficianados that no one 'hates' that dwarf planet?has it occurred to any Pluto hater that they might be under a Saturn psychology hold themselves? Aka in the kin of the people who hated the first printing press, the ones who invented the Internet etc? akin to the holders of power which was about to be disseminated for kingdom come! Why does Saturn HAVE to be the master and be all and end all of all things astrological, it just does not make any sense at all in any way shape or form...because the physics say so too, Saturn is NOT the end of the physical solar system and astrology is based on the physical solar system..
.it might be a small planet but then so is bloody mercury
has it occurred to any of the dwarf planet pluto afficianados that no one 'hates' that dwarf planet?
Quite simply, traditional astrology has a definition of what consitutes a traditional astrological planet
modern astrologers lack consensus as to what constitutes 'a modern astrological planet'
Mercury is close to the Sun and so takes just 88 DAYS to orbit the sun
whereas distant invisible dwarf planet pluto requires 248 YEARS
There's no credible modern astrological definition of 'an astrological planet'
and no proof of dwarf planet pluto being 'a modern astrological planet'
That's a matter of opinion
there's no definition of 'a modern astrological planet'
This thread topic does not concern Saturnyou are free to stay in the 17th century along with all the Luddites witch burners bible bashers....??
SATURN is NOT the end of the astrology universe and I'm soooo glad he/she is not because he/she is a pain in the **** most of the time, and most people have got his//her number now, respect it, but free to explore beyond it,,,,,in your world maybe the headmaster was God, well, guess what, he isn't, good night
This thread topic does not concern Saturn
if you wish to discuss Saturn and the astrological universe
you are free to commence a new thread
The dimmer, but visible, fixed stars aren't used in astrological delineation, either, even though the ancients could see them.
They don't cast enough light.
I think there are a few problems with the outers. One is that their significations were nicked from the classical planets. The other is that they're blamed/praised for almost everything. Someone tells of some emotional distress, and you see Mars in Libra on the ascendant opposing Saturn in Aries, but no, that can't be it, it's the biseptile from Pluto to Venus. You got rich. Pluto transitted your second house. You went bankrupt. Pluto transitted your second house. These are really delineations I've seen.
The outers, with an emphasis on Pluto, are about the only thing many modern astrologers look at. And that's crazy.
People are saying there's something wrong with my psychology, with other people who use trad techniques, because using Pluto is so normative, there must be a signature in our birth charts as to why we don't. I did, for over 20 years, and the more I worked with it, the more charts I looked at, the less impressed I was. So I dropped the outers. And my astrology got better for it.
Can you use Pluto? Sure, and the vast, vast majority of people here do. But you don't HAVE to. Charts are perfectly comprehensible without it, and it seems to obfuscate matters more than clarify them when it is used, at least from what I've seen.
That's a discussion for another threadit most certainly DOES involve Saturn as Saturn is the final end of the traditional astrology school
whereas Pluto is the end of the modern school, as far as planets go that is,
and the argument is about Pluto not being a planet
..don't you see the relevance?,
I suppose one could start a thread about Uranus or Neptune too in ths vein, they are meaningless, why hasn't anyone?
That's a topic for discussion on another thread and by all means commence one
Do traditional astrologers value them more than Pluto or value them at all? Or none?
It's no skin off my nose Jupiter,
Just because you don't recall anyone questioning dwarf planet pluto's astrological use before
I just don't recall anyone making such a song and dance act about Pluto meaning nothng before...,,,
There's no postable answer to thatJupiterasc i have a questions
why do you hate pluto that much because it is just too real ?
or it is because your too weak ?
and okay you know what you dont have to belive in pluto
but dont come here and try to convinse people who do cause you just look WEAK and DUMB
Read my answers
why you not answer my questions
so one more question
if scientists decide that jupiter is a dwarf planet
would you still call yourself jupiterasc ehhh ????.!