Is it true that there will be devastating changes in my life?

ScorpioMaria

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Very difficult transit, especially 8th house and 12th house, please be very careful at least until Spring 2025

You may have dark thoughts, please do not despair, things will get better but probably not soon, it will take time :)

Try to use this time to improve yourself, your weight (if it is unhealthy), your physical and mental health.
As you improve yourself and your finances, you will feel better and be more confident and attract a new love.
Maybe try getting a job that is not very demanding, a part-time job?

You have a strong Venus in Libra, you have a talent for quiet beauty, harmony, gentleness, flowers, fabrics, cosmetics, etc.
Are you male or female?
 
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ScorpioMaria

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There is both physical danger and mental danger (ie mental illness), which can escalate to physical danger.
The danger involves profound change of some kind (Pluto square Sun, conjunct Moon)

The physical danger mostly comes from mental illness in your case (you are not flying anywhere); otherwise nothing specific, be careful around people, including random strangers.

Danger of crime, death, mental illness, hospitalisation, etc, please be careful with yourself and with others

Maybe try a non-demanding, non-dangerous, quiet, beautiful job, maybe working with plants or flowers, or arranging furniture/decorations of some kind, any way you can find an outlet for your well-developed sense of beauty

Love yourself, you have value :)
 
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FraterAC

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worst case scenario’s rarely play out
This is absolutely true. Especially using Transits only -- what some might say are dire predictions indeed pass by experienced as ordinary events in the wear and tear of life, with no lasting impact. "Oh, was that it?"
That approach to "advice" can just be fear-mongering, which does no one any good. No one should ever have fear and trepidation for the future. Ever!

As the Immortal Bard asked,
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?


You are NOT facing a sea of troubles. Do not project your fears, or anyone else's, into the future. Live in the Present, make the best decisions you can right now, and whatever comes, you can work through it.
 

JUPITERASC

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It was an astrologer in my country who said this. He said my life would go through a big change.

consult several astrologers
then compare their remarks
the comments here scared me even more. frankly yes, maybe I'm a pessimist, but there is no mental illness in my family.
These things are usually genetic.
learn to read your natal chart :)

it's useful because then
you decide for yourself


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JUPITERASC

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You are so right! your valuable life experiences are telling the truth. life is a constant change. thank you for guiding..

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I'm trying to understand my chart. i am not good about that.

I'm no expert either - we are all learning :)
some detailed info on TRANSITS




what do you think about my chart?
that a reliable time of birth is step 1

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sentR89day

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They probably looked at your Sun and Jupiter in the later degrees Libra, and saw that Pluto in Capricorn is transitting them. And they thought that your life would be destroyed by Pluto.

But Pluto isn't just about destruction, it's also a planet of change and rebirth. Focus on this side of Pluto, it's better for your mental health.
 

FraterAC

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They probably looked at your Sun and Jupiter in the later degrees Libra, and saw that Pluto in Capricorn is transitting them. And they thought that your life would be destroyed by Pluto.

But Pluto isn't just about destruction, it's also a planet of change and rebirth. Focus on this side of Pluto, it's better for your mental health.
Pluto transited conjunct my Moon and ASC about the time I moved 1000 miles from where I grew up. Yes, there were changes. But they weren't worse. They were just different.
Someone could've told me, OMG, your whole life is going to change! They might've been about half right. Things changed. But I was still who I was, and life went on, just like it did before.
Fear not!
 
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ScorpioMaria

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What does mental illness mean? Are you saying I will crazy? Is this a real mental illness? Or are you talking about depression?
You wrote "You're not flying anywhere". English is not my native language. What did you mean here? Did you really talk about moving?
"Physical danger in your case is mostly due to mental illness"
I didn't understand that either. can you explain more please??
I get it like you're saying I'm going crazy
I never said something bad is going to happen, I said there is more danger than usual.

Do not be afraid, be aware.

I am trying to keep this simple and focus on your natal chart and transits. Of course astrology can be as complicated as you want it to be. If you want progressions and returns, of course you could pay a professional astrologer like Samantha.

But you do not need a professional astrologer to help you understand and improve your life (though an astrologer can help). You need someone who will love you, listen to you, understand you, help you for free, such as a family member or close friend, or maybe a priest or therapist.

You said your life is unhappy, and I believe you. Your chart shows great unhappiness and difficulty throughout life. It's not your fault. On top of this, you will experience great change (last year, this year, next year), which may not be positive, due to the transits of Pluto and Uranus, and the malefic nature of the 8th and 12th houses. These houses are malefic, or 'bad', because usually their influence is more bad and good. The 12th house often has to do with mental illness, which is anything related to the mind, especially depression in your case, but also anxiety, eating disorders, personality disorders, schizophrenia, and many other things. The 12th house also has to do with loneliness, life lessons, late life, hospitals, home confinement, prisons, criminals, victims of crime, homicide, suicide, etc. And the 8th house often has to do with profound change, such as sex, crises, surgery, death, and extreme situations, as well as deep understanding, the occult, investment, and inheritance. These houses are malefic because their themes are usually not good. I do not know which themes apply to you, I am only presenting all the ones I can think of.

You have a Pluto transit affecting your Sun and Moon in these houses; Pluto represents deep understanding, profound change, or in certain cases, death (hopefully not!). Sun represents your identity, while Moon represents your emotions and your mother. You have a fundamental internal conflict between your identity and your emotions, between who you are and how you feel, and between the themes of the 8th house (Sun) and 12th house (Moon). Probably you had many problems with your father and mother. And now you have Pluto, representing profound change, in these houses. Hopefully nothing serious will happen. Usually something does happen, hopefully nothing bad. Please avoid flying on airplanes, just as a precaution.

Also, your Mars-Mercury-Pluto are square your Saturn-Ascendant, which also cause you considerable difficulty throughout life. And these difficult aspects are currently affected by a difficult Uranus transit, which symbolizes disruptive change (and possibly mental illness) as well, though probably less severe than Pluto. I can interpret this as well, but more paragraphs would be required.

None of this is your fault. Your parents played the cosmic lottery when they made you, and these are your numbers.
Be at peace with yourself, love yourself. You can improve and be happier if you want to be. You are going through a difficult period right now, certainly involving depression, and probably other things as well. This will pass, be careful, be safe, pray, and be at peace. Take care :)
 

ScorpioMaria

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I understand that you interpret the 12th house with 8th house meanings. You counted the meanings of 12 houses and 8 houses one by one. but I don't understand why you're talking so confidently about mental illness. Is that the only possibility the Uranus aspect says? It bothers me that you speak so clearly. You even counted death. It's true that I'm not feeling well, but I wouldn't even call it depression. I'd say boredom and a bit of despair. But you say I will suffer for the rest of my life. Besides, you're implying that maybe I'm going to die. If I get on a plane, will the plane crash? Don't you see anything good on my map? a family, success?
You really took my breath away.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to scare you, astrology can be dark, all of my astrologers were very dark

Please remember that astrology is predisposition, not predetermination. I only mentioned airplanes as a precaution, I mention airplanes a lot, I am flying often, I am in the aviation industry

Everyone else gives you happy talk, I am trying to encourage you and be real with you at the same time.
I was the first to help you, I spent the most time thinking about you, everyone else is reassuring you or disagreeing with me, that's OK.

You sound like you have depression, with sadness, boredom, despair, no love-life, no job for years. Depression is a mental illness, and is usually common and minor, but it can be serious and fatal. Please get some help from someone you trust, you do not need to pay money or swallow any medication. The Church helps people a lot, too.

I can see some good things in your chart, I just wanted to respond to you now, and reassure you that nothing is predetermined. :)
 

ScorpioMaria

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And a hard Uranus transit can mean many things, including psychological problems (though probably not in this case).
I will be having a hard Uranus transit soon, and I can only see some business/financial problems
 

FraterAC

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I understand that you interpret the 12th house with 8th house meanings. You counted the meanings of 12 houses and 8 houses one by one. but I don't understand why you're talking so confidently about mental illness. Is that the only possibility the Uranus aspect says? It bothers me that you speak so clearly. You even counted death. It's true that I'm not feeling well, but I wouldn't even call it depression. I'd say boredom and a bit of despair. But you say I will suffer for the rest of my life. Besides, you're implying that maybe I'm going to die. If I get on a plane, will the plane crash? Don't you see anything good on my map? a family, success?
You really took my breath away.
Efyl, I think you've gotten everything you're going to get from that consultation; I don't think anything different is going to be said, or any more insight forthcoming.
Note that almost none of the other comments agree with those dire predictions.
The 8th house can mean inheritance, money through a partner, or other resources from a hidden or obscure source. That is, "good karma" from the past. It can mean a process of transformation that may be more or less pleasant, but always results in growth. And if you're 106 it might mean one thing and if you're 26 something else altogether.
The 12th house can mean solitude, or privacy. It can mean the kind of insights into the inner life that result from solitary contemplation. It can mean a period of preparation before new experiences. If you're a criminal or subject to severe and chronic diseases, it might mean one thing. To the ordinary person those kinds of predictions would not apply.
The natal ruler of my 6th house of health is in my 12th house of confinement, with a couple of hard aspects, including one from Saturn. Bad news, right? Serious illness resulting in hospitalization, right?
Baloney.
I had a decades-long career working (6th house) in healthcare, almost all of it in hospitals (12th house). Touch wood, in my several decades of life I have yet to be hospitalized for anything, even for one day. And I'm not a superman or health fanatic; I'm just an ordinary guy.
There are untold subtleties in astrology, which decades of familiarity barely scratch. I feel like I'm just getting started.
Like I said, Fear NOT!
 

ScorpioMaria

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How am I helpful to you if I do not list any specifics? I am listing themes and possibilities that deserve attention

I never said you were doomed, I said you were unhappy, you said so yourself. And unhappy people tend to attract unhappy situations
 

ScorpioMaria

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Studying astrology is fine, wanting a relationship is fine.
But surely you have more immediate priorities in life, based on what you told me.

Please talk to someone you trust more than random people on the internet.
Improve yourself in every way you can (appearance, health, mindset, finances, etc) and you will feel so much better, and attract people.
You deserve to be happy and realise all your dreams :)
 

ScorpioMaria

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Life is risk, I am letting you know the risk. Or would you rather not know? Most people would rather not know.
You decide if you want to take the risk.
Even if I or you know our specific risks, we might decide to live our lives anyway. Hopefully everything will be OK.
I have risks and dangers too.

I did mention some good things about you, such as your Venus in Libra. That is very important, especially as a woman.
But I am not going to lie to you; you have a very difficult chart. I haven't looked at it closely since yesterday, I could look at it again if you want.
 
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ScorpioMaria

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You cannot change what you were born with (astrology, genetics, childhood environment), but you can understand and be at peace with yourself.
You can always improve yourself, especially if you know yourself and can see yourself realistically. :)

If I were you, I would research your difficult aspects: Sun-Moon Square, Mercury-Saturn/Ascendant Square, Mars-Saturn/Ascendant Square, Pluto-Saturn/Ascendant Square, etc. Even the Saturn-Ascendant conjunction can be difficult, though also positive. I would also research your signs and positive aspects as well for some perspective.

When you understand yourself fully, your transits and risks and changes will make more sense to you. ;)
 

JUPITERASC

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My chart also has tricky angles. but someone in particular told me that his life is going to change a lot this year. No love, no work. Is my chart just sadness? I have been unemployed for a long time. I don't even feel like working anymore. Someone said a love will come this year, but do you think it's true? When Pluto enters Aquarius, it will conjunct my zero degree Moon. Pluto squares my sun.

Can you at least tell me when my mood will improve and whether I will find love?
"...at least.."
well ours is an online amateurs forum :)

random often contradictory response
free advice
:moon:is associated with mood


 
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