david starling
Well-known member
And I am not going to answer, because it is a waste of time. Why do you care?
Because I respect Traditional Astrology, and want to know more about it.
And I am not going to answer, because it is a waste of time. Why do you care?
Because I respect Traditional Astrology, and want to know more about it.
If you are interested to learn traditional astrology
then you shall find the answer by reading ALL ancient astrologers
if you are not sufficiently interested to read any traditional authorities
then I recommend you follow moderator helpful guidelines as follows
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Members who wish to explore a combination of traditional and modern ideas should feel free to start a new thread in an appropriate forum for further discussion
This is the Traditional Astrology forum. Out of all the different boards in this forum, this one is the home for traditional astrologers. It was created so that traditional astrologers can discuss traditional astrology with each other, without having to justify it to non-traditionalists or be interrupted by people disagreeing with traditional perspectives. Traditional astrologers, welcome home! You already know what to post and what not to post, so you may go ahead and post without reading further.
If you are not a traditional astrologer, you are welcome as a guest. Good guests respect the rules of the house. In this house, the main rule is that all posts must stick to traditional astrology only. Please read the rest of this and make sure that everything you post here is strictly traditional. If your post is not traditional, it belongs on one of our other boards, not here.
then read traditional texts, many are free onlineBecause I respect Traditional Astrology,
and want to know more about it.
inexplicably you have failed to comprehend that petosiris is not your private tutor
fact is,
inexplicably you are unwilling apparently to learn traditional from traditional texts
while simultaneously claiming you respect traditional
and that you wish to learn traditional
Inexplicably, this thread is billed as an "Introduction" to ancient knowledge , and is therefore a tutorial, intended to transmit, not withold, information on the subject at hand.
Fine, the text in ''Valens'' may not be actually his, but has been attributed to Teucer of Babylon and ''Rhetorius''. We do not know the exact author, but those indications have been transmitted through various manuscripts. I can't think of lengthy descriptions of the signs outside of this transmission, besides Firmicus preserving a separate tradition that looks at the four angular signs - see page 161 http://www.astrologiahumana.com/firmicusmaternustheoryandpractice.pdf or Pythagoras, who also mentions toil, but notes some positive characteristics (like seekers of hidden knowledge because of the enigmatic quality), note many of the descriptions mixed with the Valens' in the OP come from him.
Sorry to bust in here, but someone mentioned to me that Capricorn is associated with the occult traditionally? Is that referenced on page 161 when it says, "The secrets of sacred rites or a foreign way of life or a hidden religion will be known to him." Just curious!
inexplicably, you are posting on our traditional board with carping criticism
of traditional principles
while demanding a personal tutorial from the generous OP of this thread
who is not beholden either to you or to anyone on our forum
the OP comments when the OP chooses to comment
not when unreasonable demands are made
by those who are blatantly flaunting the rules of our traditional board
i.e.
you commented earlier on this thread as follows
you continuallly flout the fact
that our traditional board
has the following moderator advice clearly displayed
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This is the Traditional Astrology forum.
Out of all the different boards in this forum, this one is the home for traditional astrologers.
It was created so that traditional astrologers
can discuss traditional astrology with each other,
without having to justify it to non-traditionalists
or be interrupted by people disagreeing with traditional perspectives.
Traditional astrologers, welcome home!
You already know what to post and what not to post,
so you may go ahead and post without reading further.
If you are not a traditional astrologer,
you are welcome as a guest.
Good guests respect the rules of the house.
In this house, the main rule is that all posts must stick to traditional astrology only.
Please read the rest of this and make sure that everything you post here is strictly traditional.
If your post is not traditional, it belongs on one of our other boards, not here.
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120411
would be interesting if you provide your interpretation of the reference you gaveSorry to bust in here, but
someone mentioned to me that Capricorn is associated with the occult traditionally?
Is that referenced on page 161 when it says,
"The secrets of sacred rites or a foreign way of life or a hidden religion will be known to him."
Just curious!
fact is the rule states clearly as followsI asked a question about a Traditional topic, on a thread entitled as an "Introduction".
Clearly, anyone already familiar with Hellenistic Astrology
wouldn't require such an introduction, so
a question from someone unfamiliar with it is perfectly understandable.
I'm on Thread and not in violation of the rules of this board.
clearly you are not a traditional astrologerSo, according to Valens, all Capricorns suffer from those maladies, regardless of the Chart configuration?
I, for one, believe it's an untenable generalization.
would be interesting if you provide your interpretation of the reference you gave
just curious
i.e.
"The secrets of sacred rites or a foreign way of life or a hidden religion will be known to him."
also would be useful if you would state whether you are a traditional astrologer
interested in traditional discussion
or simply a curious guest on our traditional board
would be interesting if you provide your interpretation of the reference you gave
just curious
i.e.
"The secrets of sacred rites or a foreign way of life or a hidden religion will be known to him."
also would be useful if you would state whether you are a traditional astrologer
interested in traditional discussion
or simply a curious guest on our traditional board
For guests, as stated, "The main rule is that all posts must stick to traditional astrology only ". You seem to be implying that guests are unwelcome if they ask a question of those already knowledgeable in the Traditional arena. Is that a rule of your own making?
thanks for referring to the following comment SCUExcuse me, mr David, we can't denying that there are history in the past that make the reader of this thread could read something "unserious questions"
So I could see why Trad member like Jupiter and petosiris to prevent it again.
That's all what I read.
Respectful
R
the rules are made by moderators and apply to ALL of us members INCLUDING GUESTSFor guests, as stated,
"The main rule is that all posts must stick to traditional astrology only ".
You seem to be implying that guests are unwelcome
if they ask a question of those already knowledgeable in the Traditional arena.
Is that a rule of your own making?
All,
Keep your disagreements respectful.
You may disagree over what is or isn't traditional astrology,
up to a point.
Stick to the topic, respectfully,
Osamenor
thanks for referring to the following comment SCU
the rules are made by moderators and apply to ALL of us members INCLUDING GUESTS
i.e.
This is the Traditional Astrology forum.
Out of all the different boards in this forum, this one is the home for traditional astrologers.
It was created so that traditional astrologers can discuss traditional astrology with each other,
without having to justify it to non-traditionalists
or be interrupted by people disagreeing with traditional perspectives
and you have violated that rule with the following interruption
disagreeing with our traditional perspectives
and so
guests follow our house rules
as stated by moderators
for example
I simply quoted rules of our traditional boardI disagreed with ONE ancient astrologer's opinion concerning Capricorn,
not with all "traditional perspectives".
That's why I asked about the opinions of other ancient astrologers regarding that Sign.
Some academics have questioned the validity of ancient sources by saying they are too positive (3/12 royal signs?!), and then we have david on our forum.
Truthfully, people need to look at a chart themselves. Here is an easy and short guide to follow - https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121677
many have not even read any traditional textsThen, why has Trad become considered as "Doom and Gloom" astrology?
Truthfully, people need to look at a chart themselves.
Here is an easy and short guide to follow - https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121677