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<blockquote data-quote="greybeard" data-source="post: 479856" data-attributes="member: 28124">Yes.As a planet moves to complete the aspect, things happen on several planes...Here's an actual example:Moon in 9th Aquarius applies to Saturn Leo 4th, directional arc = 13 degrees.Age 13, Mother abandons family, goes to another country with her lover, never to be heard from again.Native is eldest child, now saddled with duties of caring for smaller siblings.Note that the catalytic event (abandonment) resulted in an ongoing condition (the new duties).Moon is significator here, Saturn promittor.&nbsp; The Moon's action brings forth the promise held by Saturn...Look at what happened.Do you think this event was formative of character?&nbsp; In what way?&nbsp; What were the effects on the native of the mother leaving the family?Those psychological/character-building effects are described by the same aspect that describes the &quot;event&quot;. A very tight aspect (say an applying quincunx of Moon to Uranus, 35') is extremely powerful and becomes very deeply rooted in the psyche because it occurs so early in life.&nbsp; Such an &quot;accident&quot; [something which is adventitious or of external origin] is said to be &quot;dispositional&quot; (in psychiatry) because it happens early in life and strongly influences character development.&nbsp; An &quot;accident&quot; occuring at age 13 (our wide-orbed opposition of Moon to Saturn in the 4th) is said to be &quot;definitive&quot; (again, in psychiatry) because it occurs later in life and acts as a precipitating or provocative agency.&nbsp; The quincunx mentioned above occurs (perfects) about 7 months after birth by direction, and also secondary progression.This means it occurs so early in life that it is &quot;never&quot; available to consciousness, but must be deeply buried in the unconscious, and therefore very powerful in character formation (it is almost innate.)We can't know the actual details of the event, but we can describe its essential nature or characteristics.&nbsp; What would you say happened when this quincunx perfected?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="greybeard, post: 479856, member: 28124"] Yes. As a planet moves to complete the aspect, things happen on several planes... Here's an actual example: Moon in 9th Aquarius applies to Saturn Leo 4th, directional arc = 13 degrees. Age 13, Mother abandons family, goes to another country with her lover, never to be heard from again. Native is eldest child, now saddled with duties of caring for smaller siblings. Note that the catalytic event (abandonment) resulted in an ongoing condition (the new duties). Moon is significator here, Saturn promittor. The Moon's action brings forth the promise held by Saturn...Look at what happened. Do you think this event was formative of character? In what way? What were the effects on the native of the mother leaving the family? Those psychological/character-building effects are described by the same aspect that describes the "event". A very tight aspect (say an applying quincunx of Moon to Uranus, 35') is extremely powerful and becomes very deeply rooted in the psyche because it occurs so early in life. Such an "accident" [something which is adventitious or of external origin] is said to be "dispositional" (in psychiatry) because it happens early in life and strongly influences character development. An "accident" occuring at age 13 (our wide-orbed opposition of Moon to Saturn in the 4th) is said to be "definitive" (again, in psychiatry) because it occurs later in life and acts as a precipitating or provocative agency. The quincunx mentioned above occurs (perfects) about 7 months after birth by direction, and also secondary progression. This means it occurs so early in life that it is "never" available to consciousness, but must be deeply buried in the unconscious, and therefore very powerful in character formation (it is almost innate.) We can't know the actual details of the event, but we can describe its essential nature or characteristics. What would you say happened when this quincunx perfected? [/QUOTE]

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