I strongly HATE my chart...

fifteen

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Thanx lol, & I actually like that answer, but my question is this, so are you implying that every single person with venus on the ascendant is considered physically attractive?

Well, I didn't had a very close look. I just based it on the sun/moon and ascendant. I didn't say attractive, I said lovely. :) The meaning of the word of attractive, can be different for everyone. I do think that Venus brings an air of loveliness a kind of sweetness to a sign. Since Venus rules Taurus, the chance that you look lovely to others is there. I usually look at the ascendant in case of the body/external features. Sometimes the ascendant seems stronger present, in others the Sun element is more present, or it is a mixture of the sun/moon/asc. That's why it is so difficult to guess someone's sign. But this my speculation and my own anecdotal evidence.
 

Horus

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Indeed it does help, & thank you very much for such an in depth fully detailed answer, its all coming in full circle, so my north node is aries therefor I must develop my aries qualities in which my soul has or wants to have? Also I'm actually a third degree black belt in southern wushu kung-fu lol.

:smile: You're welcome. It's excellent that you've pursued Kung Fu (and I did suspect that you might have done martial arts already with a powerful Mars in the sign of discipline) and so you have instinctually pursued some of the North Node soul agenda, and I'm quite certain that you acquired some Arian traits from that. But look at the 12th house part of that again. Any placement there -even a lunar node- benefits from meditation.

And yes this still helps with dealing with difficult emotions from that Moon, gaining perspective and insight. While one theme of the 12th is solitude and spiritual practice, it also holds a potential humanitarian agenda, so finding a way to help others will also aid your evolution.

It's also notable that your Chiron is in the air sign of Gemini. This does not confer air but tells you the nature of your "wounds" with a variety of possibilities such as trouble with siblings, trouble with early education, difficulty learning, speaking, reading, writing, talking, etc. with such things impacting the 2nd house of money, values and self-worth in some way. Only you know the truth of what applies here, if anything.

But meditation and inner work will help here too.

So I am here to be independent/strong/brave/powerful/healer/athlete/astrologer/magician/leader & so forth? They say I have more positives than negatives, when do you see me succeed & being able to fully develop all of these characteristics?

Well, I never wrote that you need to be all of these things and you are integrating from other advice you've received here which I don't necessarily endorse myself. I think that you already have (or are) some of these things- yes? I believe that the Arian independence is more in the context of relationships (after looking at your SN and Saturn) than financial self-sufficiency -just to be clear. As I wrote before, you don't want to be in any needy, co-dependent, or self-sacrificing situation. When you get into a serious love relationship and if you find yourself lapsing this way, please remember this. Virgo is pretty good about setting boundaries and that will help you if you find yourself with an overly demanding and/or domineering female.

...every single person with venus on the ascendant is considered physically attractive?

Not necessarily. Venus can confer charm and grace without looks...but also beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so no one is universally physically-attractive to everyone else on the planet.
 

vitas

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Well, I didn't had a very close look. I just based it on the sun/moon and ascendant. I didn't say attractive, I said lovely. :) The meaning of the word of attractive, can be different for everyone. I do think that Venus brings an air of loveliness a kind of sweetness to a sign. Since Venus rules Taurus, the chance that you look lovely to others is there. I usually look at the ascendant in case of the body/external features. Sometimes the ascendant seems stronger present, in others the Sun element is more present, or it is a mixture of the sun/moon/asc. That's why it is so difficult to guess someone's sign. But this my speculation and my own anecdotal evidence.



Good analysis, so according to my chart is my ascendant strong? or stronger than my sun? lol. I'm curious as to what my chart indicates in terms of physical appearrances, may sound vain & superficial however the efficacy of astrology has strongly to do with out inner & outer selves...

:smile: You're welcome. It's excellent that you've pursued Kung Fu (and I did suspect that you might have done martial arts already with a powerful Mars in the sign of discipline) and so you have instinctually pursued some of the North Node soul agenda, and I'm quite certain that you acquired some Arian traits from that. But look at the 12th house part of that again. Any placement there -even a lunar node- benefits from meditation.

And yes this still helps with dealing with difficult emotions from that Moon, gaining perspective and insight. While one theme of the 12th is solitude and spiritual practice, it also holds a potential humanitarian agenda, so finding a way to help others will also aid your evolution.

It's also notable that your Chiron is in the air sign of Gemini. This does not confer air but tells you the nature of your "wounds" with a variety of possibilities such as trouble with siblings, trouble with early education, difficulty learning, speaking, reading, writing, talking, etc. with such things impacting the 2nd house of money, values and self-worth in some way. Only you know the truth of what applies here, if anything.

But meditation and inner work will help here too.

So I should give back to the world & be a service to people, this is what my soul demands & wants & will aid to my evolution? Also, you mention chiron wounds what exactly is this suppose to mean? I mean I consider myself a good communicator, and since this is in the second house, does that mean if I want to make lots of money and build resources I would have to heal such wounds? I am a bit confused.. So my soul desires to adapt arian traits huh? Hmmm very interesting, & I should meditate and so forth?



Well, I never wrote that you need to be all of these things and you are integrating from other advice you've received here which I don't necessarily endorse myself. I think that you already have (or are) some of these things- yes? I believe that the Arian independence is more in the context of relationships (after looking at your SN and Saturn) than financial self-sufficiency -just to be clear. As I wrote before, you don't want to be in any needy, co-dependent, or self-sacrificing situation. When you get into a serious love relationship and if you find yourself lapsing this way, please remember this. Virgo is pretty good about setting boundaries and that will help you if you find yourself with an overly demanding and/or domineering female.



Not necessarily. Venus can confer charm and grace without looks...but also beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so no one is universally physically-attractive to everyone else on the planet.


It all makes perfect sense now, so my aries north node is within context of dealing with relationships? Hmm so I am attractive but I must learn how to be independent? & I am magnetic but I must learn how to act more like an aries when dealing with love etc??? Also, do you see any women coming my way anytime soon? LOL.. In terms of a mate or prefferably soul mate lol.
 

Horus

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So I should give back to the world & be a service to people, this is what my soul demands & wants & will aid to my evolution? Also, you mention chiron wounds what exactly is this suppose to mean? I mean I consider myself a good communicator, and since this is in the second house, does that mean if I want to make lots of money and build resources I would have to heal such wounds? I am a bit confused.. So my soul desires to adapt arian traits huh? Hmmm very interesting, & I should meditate and so forth?

Meditation practice helps everybody (it's just healthy) but especially you. Mercury rules both Gemini and Virgo, and I would guess that your Mercury does help your communication in some respects.

Your Chiron can mean any number of things -only you know what applies truthfully and what doesn't. Google Chiron in Gemini for more. I just think that it's beyond accidental coincidence that you lack the Air element and that chiron is in air -I think the problem/challenge is connected. And Google Chiron in the 2nd house for more on that. I would be more inclined to think it affects self-worth than money and property, but only you know that. It might have a negative impact there until you heal or address that Geministic wound/problem somehow. Meditation might be one way, and there may be others, dunno, because I don't know what's really going on with you.

And yes your North Node soul purpose is develop positive Arian traits and I would guess that you've gotten some of those through pursuit of martial arts already.

It all makes perfect sense now, so my aries north node is within context of dealing with relationships? Hmm so I am attractive but I must learn how to be independent? & I am magnetic but I must learn how to act more like an aries when dealing with love etc???

1. Yes to the first question -IMO.

2. Yes, independent but not necessarily all alone. This is about mentally-healthy independence that isn't needy, co-dependent or requiring someone else in order to be happy and fulfilled, it's about cultivating internal happiness and it's probably achieved through spiritual practice-- connecting to your higher self, and/or about humanitarian efforts of some kind -that's the 12th house.

3. Yes, partially -apply some Aries in that regard, but you don't need to "act" or become another full-blown Sunsign -just be your Taurean/Scorpionic/Virgonic self , but lose any negative Libra tendencies and draw healthy boundaries with your mate which support your own identity, goals and dreams. Don't let a partner mess with those and don't you lose sight of your own in favor of theirs or sacrifice them -that's the lesson I see here which you failed to learn in another life.

You are getting lots of feedback in this thread-- use your Scorpionic intuition on it. Follow parts that resonate or feel good, right, or true to you, and skip the rest. It's that simple.

Also, do you see any women coming my way anytime soon? LOL.. In terms of a mate or prefferably soul mate lol.

Saturn will be on your DSC, the cusp of the relationship house later this Fall. That usually bodes ill for existing relationships as they are severely tested and often end in breakup or divorce if they don't survive that test.
Saturn can also block relationships from happening while it traverses this house if the native isn't ready to commit or fulfilling their natal Saturnian karma (by sign,aspect, and house).

If you are alone, Saturn here can signal the beginning of a committed partnership of some kind (even business) commencing at the beginning of the transit or sometime during Saturn's passage through your 7th which will last a couple of years. You are, btw, looking for the traits of your Moon, Venus, DSC, and cusp ruler in a partner = that's Scorpio x 4! Maybe some Capricorn too since Mars co-rules Scorpio.
 

dude123

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I strongly love my chart.

You should do the same as well, brother. It's not good to hate something is is already innate in you...
 

vitas

Well-known member
Meditation practice helps everybody (it's just healthy) but especially you. Mercury rules both Gemini and Virgo, and I would guess that your Mercury does help your communication in some respects.

Your Chiron can mean any number of things -only you know what applies truthfully and what doesn't. Google Chiron in Gemini for more. I just think that it's beyond accidental coincidence that you lack the Air element and that chiron is in air -I think the problem/challenge is connected. And Google Chiron in the 2nd house for more on that. I would be more inclined to think it affects self-worth than money and property, but only you know that. It might have a negative impact there until you heal or address that Geministic wound/problem somehow. Meditation might be one way, and there may be others, dunno, because I don't know what's really going on with you.

And yes your North Node soul purpose is develop positive Arian traits and I would guess that you've gotten some of those through pursuit of martial arts already.



1. Yes to the first question -IMO.

2. Yes, independent but not necessarily all alone. This is about mentally-healthy independence that isn't needy, co-dependent or requiring someone else in order to be happy and fulfilled, it's about cultivating internal happiness and it's probably achieved through spiritual practice-- connecting to your higher self, and/or about humanitarian efforts of some kind -that's the 12th house.

3. Yes, partially -apply some Aries in that regard, but you don't need to "act" or become another full-blown Sunsign -just be your Taurean/Scorpionic/Virgonic self , but lose any negative Libra tendencies and draw healthy boundaries with your mate which support your own identity, goals and dreams. Don't let a partner mess with those and don't you lose sight of your own in favor of theirs or sacrifice them -that's the lesson I see here which you failed to learn in another life.

You are getting lots of feedback in this thread-- use your Scorpionic intuition on it. Follow parts that resonate or feel good, right, or true to you, and skip the rest. It's that simple.



Saturn will be on your DSC, the cusp of the relationship house later this Fall. That usually bodes ill for existing relationships as they are severely tested and often end in breakup or divorce if they don't survive that test.
Saturn can also block relationships from happening while it traverses this house if the native isn't ready to commit or fulfilling their natal Saturnian karma (by sign,aspect, and house).

If you are alone, Saturn here can signal the beginning of a committed partnership of some kind (even business) commencing at the beginning of the transit or sometime during Saturn's passage through your 7th which will last a couple of years. You are, btw, looking for the traits of your Moon, Venus, DSC, and cusp ruler in a partner = that's Scorpio x 4! Maybe some Capricorn too since Mars co-rules Scorpio.


Hey, sorry for the delay, my internet was a bit off/on back & forth.... I appreciate your analysis/answers/suggestions etc, my scorpion intuition tells me to follow your advice fully and so I will... It's strange I have so many scorpio qualities, especially the moon venus etc... I'm pretty sure that would make me magnetic to many people lol... Honestly scorpio women scares me lol just kidding, honestly I want to right my wrongs and build up some more good karma, I still don't understand why people say my chart is highly magnetic & positive, but I am new to astrology, I only wish to build up good karma but then again I don't want to go the negative libra tendencies like you said, mars is very strong, I am a hardcore athlete, I literally train every single day for hours on end... I am an extremist lol... I just want to do what's right you know? But thanx again for the detailed analysis I appreciate it fully...


I strongly love my chart.

You should do the same as well, brother. It's not good to hate something is is already innate in you...

I am learning to accept what I can't change little by little...
 
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