Hope for Acting?

Arijana

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so,I've wanted to become an actress ever since I was 9 years old. That's my life,my indentity,not just my passion. Last year I was preparing for two universities the acting academy,and hotel management. However I didn't enroll for the Academy in the end because I wasn't prepared enough and I was afraid I was not up to my best abilities...however since then,I've noticed a lack of...will from my oart,which makes me sad :( I actually began studying hotel management because I want to move from my country and begin acting in a country where there is a little more prosperity with it,because my country is a horrible place to be an artist...so I was wondering,do you see acting in the future for me,or it to be my true vocation? or rather,just tell me whatever you see carreer wise :)

do you see a talent for acting?
I also have Juno in my first house

I've also been told I have some aspects indicating fame :) so I'd like to hear your thoughts on that too :)
 

ume

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Hi Arijana,

first question: what is "oart" i tried to look it up in the dictionary but couldn't find. So i don't understand what kind of change happened inside you.

I advice you to draw a progression+transits chart, and post that. It will show the changes. (You can draw two chart, one with the date around you changed, and the other with the current transits.)

For acting, Pluto rx in the 1st house can give you a powerful ability to see behind things. It is also in his Scorpio. Like analyse a role, and understand it.

I think Leo midheaven is also an indicator that you like to be on the 'scene'.

Moon in the 9th house can indicate that you like to travel or interact with foreigner, or an interest in foreign things.

Juno asteroid doesn't have to do anything with acting. It is about the life-partner you will choose.

About your personality, you lack fire element, and your Venus is a singleton planet. I advice you to read about it. :)

Also good luck, acting needs more persistence and luck than talent. (It is true i think generally about art these days. Don't waste time, go to acting school, and after that get an agent.)
 
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ume

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Sorry, i can't help you with that. I only know that Neptune generally can indicate dancing ability. Position and aspects. Neptune is the ruler of Pisces, and you have Pisces Sun, but just only that can't be an indication, i think.

Quintiles and Bi-quintiles show special talent.

I hope other forum members can help you with this. I am also curious. :joyful:

EDIT: i just found something. Neptune in the 2nd house can mean income comes from dancing. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/secondhouse.htm
 
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Arijana

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thanks ume :)

I saw your first post only after you posted the first comment,so I didn't see it at first:joyful:

it's ''part'' not oart,mispelled something by accident:innocent:

that's the thing,I can't do acting in my country so there is no ''getting an agent etc.'' in my country, I study hotel management so I can move somewhere where I can be an actress.
I'm not after fame,I would do it either way,but just curious :)

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=214783&postcount=1

here is my chart withe progressions and transits.
I've noticed the change as in,I've went down creatively :(
 

ume

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and yeah,I know I have no fire in me,though I am strangley very passionate and fiery:rightful:

There is an interesting thread, if you want to read more about this. lacking an element doesn't mean you are not - in your case - fiery.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077

I advice you to take action.

Progressed Sun is in your 5th house. Very good, and also lucky Jupiter transiting it too. This is a very creative time for you. Good time to flourish in your artistic dreams. (Good time for romance, and children too.) Just always stay with two feet on earth, and everything is in your favour. Work hard.
Saturn will enter your 11th house soon. It means you face reality (maybe difficulty or need more hard work) in that area. 11th house also the house of far future and plans.

Would you answer some questions?

Were there a change about 6 years ago in your life? Did you start your interest in acting at that time?

Are you feel that you are getting far from your family and home? Distance yourself?
Are you geetting a bit more tired these years?

Happened something around 2009 March/April?
 

BobZemco

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Sorry, don't see it.

You have Taurus and Libra on the 7th and 12th, and that's good, but your Venus is really badly placed. It's in the 3rd in Aquarius and makes no aspects, except two really bad semi-sextiles to Mercury and Uranus.

You have a Leo 10th, but the Sun is in the 4th and even using wider orbs the only thing going is a sextile to a weak Neptune which is opposing your Moon.

Pisces 5th House just don't get it. And your Mars is quincunx the MC and Jupiter.

The only two planets south are the Moon and Jupiter. For any kind of entertainer, you really need elevated planets, especially in the 10th. It would also really help to have a planet or two in the 5th, 7th or 12th Houses.
 

ume

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Sorry, don't see it.

You have Taurus and Libra on the 7th and 12th, and that's good, but your Venus is really badly placed. It's in the 3rd in Aquarius and makes no aspects, except two really bad semi-sextiles to Mercury and Uranus.

You have a Leo 10th, but the Sun is in the 4th and even using wider orbs the only thing going is a sextile to a weak Neptune which is opposing your Moon.

Pisces 5th House just don't get it. And your Mars is quincunx the MC and Jupiter.

The only two planets south are the Moon and Jupiter. For any kind of entertainer, you really need elevated planets, especially in the 10th. It would also really help to have a planet or two in the 5th, 7th or 12th Houses.

Hi, can you help me, plese? I am newbie.

When one look for acting abilites why 7th and 12th house is important? I thought it is more a 1st, 5th and 10th house matter.
 

Arijana

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There is an interesting thread, if you want to read more about this. lacking an element doesn't mean you are not - in your case - fiery.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077

I advice you to take action.

Progressed Sun is in your 5th house. Very good, and also lucky Jupiter transiting it too. This is a very creative time for you. Good time to flourish in your artistic dreams. (Good time for romance, and children too.) Just always stay with two feet on earth, and everything is in your favour. Work hard.
Saturn will enter your 11th house soon. It means you face reality (maybe difficulty or need more hard work) in that area. 11th house also the house of far future and plans.

Would you answer some questions?

Were there a change about 6 years ago in your life? Did you start your interest in acting at that time?

Are you feel that you are getting far from your family and home? Distance yourself?
Are you geetting a bit more tired these years?

Happened something around 2009 March/April?

for question number one.. Yes,six years ago something really bad happened to me,I moved to a new city and that one year period was hell for me. My interest in acting began since I was like..five six years old maybe and at nine years old and I've started acting in theatres,my mother is the highly artistic type and she was the one that brought professional actors to come see me act,she was the one that practised with me nearly every day,she hosted modeling shows and would bring me back stage while she was working so I was around the cameras and the models,my love for singing also came then,I went to music schools, her love for art and entertainment had passed on to me..But 6 years ago, I had to quit acting and anything artistic since I moved and things were very hard for me back then.


the second question -you mean,do I want to move away and distance myself from my family? yep :)

the last question- about February/March 2009 I entered a hugely important relationship for me :)


@ Bob I appreciate your different opinion :) though you are the first astrologer ever to look at my chart that said it's not artistic. I suposse my real question is can someone see acting as my career, since I know I have talent 100 percent :) and so,in that way,I understand your answer,since you meant it in a way that you don't see acting as my profession,right? :)

btw my 5th house is in Aries,my 4th house is in pisces. and what about uranus,neptune,mercury,pluto on my asc?
 

Arijana

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the reason I ask is also because I'm studying something I don't really even like than much just so I can get out of my country and pursue acting,so for me,it's not a joke. I'm 100 percent sure I will have an artistic profession and leave this one but I just don't know what will it be,so I have to know what do yall see in my career part.
 
I think having 3planets in fire houses should help with the lack of fire (Equal house) 2planets in Angular houses 'cardinal' should help initiate things. She is very practical and emotional with elements

Ume,
EDIT: i just found something. Neptune in the 2nd house can mean income comes from dancing. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/secondhouse.htm
I have pisces ruling 2nd and it could also suggest working with the feet, chiropodary and having no clear view of income and fluxuations,dellusions and confusions about how to earn an income :innocent:

I agree with Bob there are too many challenges and contradictions.
Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

Leo MC sun placed in 5th (Equal house) and well aspected BUT for acting mercury and neptune and 'something' prominent in 10th could suggest this. Sun, jupiter and mars rule these houses and don't make an aspect. I would have expected to see a fair few in fire, espec Leo and/or 5th house. Neptune is Apex bottom end of Kite formation and has more relevance and Neptune needs to be well aspected to function in 'acting or playing a role'
Neptune is challenged in that stellium and all opposed by natal moon in 9th. Scorpio Asc is not a particularly sociable sign, in fact its very very private and doesn't like people knowing it's business. To impress people with flair and flamboyance you need fire which this chart simply lacks.
 

ume

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I think having 3planets in fire houses should help with the lack of fire (Equal house) 2planets in Angular houses 'cardinal' should help initiate things. She is very practical and emotional with elements

Ume, I have pisces ruling 2nd and it could also suggest working with the feet, chiropodary and having no clear view of income and fluxuations,dellusions and confusions about how to earn an income :innocent:

I agree with Bob there are too many challenges and contradictions.
Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

Leo MC sun placed in 5th (Equal house) and well aspected BUT for acting mercury and neptune and 'something' prominent in 10th could suggest this. Sun, jupiter and mars rule these houses and don't make an aspect. I would have expected to see a fair few in fire, espec Leo and/or 5th house. Neptune is Apex bottom end of Kite formation and has more relevance and Neptune needs to be well aspected to function in 'acting or playing a role'
Neptune is challenged in that stellium and all opposed by natal moon in 9th. Scorpio Asc is not a particularly sociable sign, in fact its very very private and doesn't like people knowing it's business. To impress people with flair and flamboyance you need fire which this chart simply lacks.

Thank you for your information. I totally forgot to watch the nature of the houses!
I also have pisces in the 2nd! :wink:

Also than you for your analysis, i can't wait to try out this in experience.
So Uranus don't have anything to do with acting? Or films?

Is it mostly Sun, Mercury and Neptune related?
 
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Arijana

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I think having 3planets in fire houses should help with the lack of fire (Equal house) 2planets in Angular houses 'cardinal' should help initiate things. She is very practical and emotional with elements

Ume, I have pisces ruling 2nd and it could also suggest working with the feet, chiropodary and having no clear view of income and fluxuations,dellusions and confusions about how to earn an income :innocent:

I agree with Bob there are too many challenges and contradictions.
Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

Leo MC sun placed in 5th (Equal house) and well aspected BUT for acting mercury and neptune and 'something' prominent in 10th could suggest this. Sun, jupiter and mars rule these houses and don't make an aspect. I would have expected to see a fair few in fire, espec Leo and/or 5th house. Neptune is Apex bottom end of Kite formation and has more relevance and Neptune needs to be well aspected to function in 'acting or playing a role'
Neptune is challenged in that stellium and all opposed by natal moon in 9th. Scorpio Asc is not a particularly sociable sign, in fact its very very private and doesn't like people knowing it's business. To impress people with flair and flamboyance you need fire which this chart simply lacks.

Yes,but that's the thing,I have impressed people, I was infront of cameras before in my life,and I haver eyes to se ehow people react to me, and I AM FIERY much more than anyone with a dozen fire placements and I can kick the sh.it out of anyone with a fire chart. And the reason why I say this also is that your theory is simply not true. It just seems ridiculous to me, I;ve seen so many charts of so many singers and actors that don't necearly have fire things in their chart and that does not mean in any way that they can't impress,:mad: which makes no sence,cuz that would mean that anyone with strong fire in their chart is going to be an entertainer,and rest are just Sc.rewed ,NOT TRUE:mad: so with all due respect your theory goes down the water,because I have impressed ,though not with flamboyance rather intensity and passion,so yes,I will give you that on stage I'm passionate not fiery,and I separate the two,since fiery is something playfull to me,sparkly,vivid,lively, and passion to me is much more deeper than fire. adn I am extremely good on getting the attention on me.

and don't make me list famous actors and singers and writers and dancers who have a scorpio ascendant.

plus,if we want to look at it that way, water stands for artistic, fire no.



And I'm not practical at all :)

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The only thing that worries me is,that I have kind of lost my creativity :( this year especially,there's a down on my spirit,I feel dead,not inspired for a long time,just...very very negative.

And the reason why I may sound combative now is,because it's not funny for me,to risk something,and I will risk so much and then someone comes along and says '' I don't see anything'' ,because,yeah,that does upset me,because I have no proffesion that is for me...and if I'm not going to be an artist....than what am I gonna be? a homeless bum?
 

Arijana

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so atrologer50 don't take my words personally :) I just got upset a little with your one sentence

the rest what you said I respect totally,as in your opinion, and I'm curious to know what challenges and contradictions ? :)

if anything artistic isn't for me...than what vocation is..? :) nothing else fullfills me.
 
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I wouldn't limit them to 'just' these but planets in 10th around MC. I've heard Neptune in 10th (not conj MC)could be good at acting, playing a role or wearing a uniform or hat. There could be loads of things pointing to it. Just that this OP chart to me doesn't seem to quite fit the idea or theory of acting per se but hey I'm NO expert on what constitutes a great actor either....
 
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so atrologer50 don't take my words personally :) I just got upset a little with your one sentence

the rest what you said I respect totally,as in your opinion, and I'm curious to know what challenges and contradictions ? :)

if anything artistic isn't for me...than what vocation is..? :) nothing else fullfills me.

I apologise if my words upset you, it wasn't intentional. Please prove me wrong and go forward with your hearts desire and become an anctor. Do NOT let astrology limit your life :wink:

Ume has created a new thread with famous actors on to see what makes them good at it, if you can find it. Maybe you find some common aspects or not as the case may be....
 

Arijana

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I apologise if my words upset you, it wasn't intentional. Please prove me wrong and go forward with your hearts desire and become an anctor. Do NOT let astrology limit your life :wink:

Ume has created a new thread with famous actors on to see what makes them good at it, if you can find it. Maybe you find some common aspects or not as the case may be....


and I apologize for getting flared up ( :p ) for no reason :smile:

I respect your opinion, I simply asked if it wasn't acting then what would it be that I am good at that is in the art field :)

the uniform thing is a good observation,since I do study hotel management,uniforms are a must :)
 

eviltwin

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Wouldn't Sun trine to the Ascendant be favorable for actors?

Also, I would imagine Scorpio ascendants could do very well in acting, because a lot of acting is getting in touch with the 'depths of feeling' of the character, and working out of being in touch with that (an actor's job, as I understand it is also to convey things about a character that only the actor is able to 'see,' and to convey a lot of it in non-verbal terms, to really show the 'inner life' of the character). This energy also probably reinforced with all the water in the chart?

Also, the ruler of the MC (Sun) is a part of a Kite-trine formation involving the moon, pluto, and neptune. Wouldn't that help also, in enhancing her chance of making acting her profession?

Arijana,

In the end, if you feel acting is 100% the right path for you, don't worry about what your chart has to say or not say. Take what the chart tells you are your strengths, work around the weaknesses, and just go for it. Nothing in life is final, and if things are meant to be, they will be. In the end, life gives us exactly the experiences we need, and it all only makes sense in hind sight.

Cheers!

PS - Don't worry about the feeling of 'lack of creativity' thing... I imagine you haven't had as much time as of late to pursue acting, even for leisure? Creativity will come only when you are in the context to apply it. Otherwise, it often looks like a deep, black, empty pit. Actually, that empty pit is the doorway through which it comes... its just that we never notice it when we are engrossed in expressing our creativity!
 
Wouldn't Sun trine to the Ascendant be favorable for actors?
Not just sun trine asc either think moon and merc to, but that is good for anyone it's not an 'actors' specific thing. I'm not sure what is actually

Just looking at basics then, ONLY 2planets above the horizon--

"Since there are more pictures below than above, this chart has an inner world focus. A person who has such a chart, although they may be out in the outer world, will most likely tend to be focused on their own inner world of personal concerns."
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/Step_1_Inner_and_outer_focus.htm#continue

"Since there are more pictures to the left than to the right, this person is focused on themselves. This person, although they may take other people into account, focuses on themself"
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/Step_2_Self_and_other_focus.htm#continue
 
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