Hardly Strictly Astrology: The Ugly Side of the Age of Aquarius

[david starling]

Regarding the entirety of the Human species, those Humans who know all Humans are idiots, are wiser than all of the Humans who think of themselves as geniuses.

 

[JUPITERASC]

Great post!
I would like to add, the problem is not just rapid development of human intelligence but also the lack of intelligence. We humans like to think about ourselves that we are "the absolute masters of Earth", "the only intelligent species". This is far from true. Whoever designed humans, designed them to be just intelligent enough to perform certain tasks but not intelligent enough to challenge the designers. Humans were designed to be the race of primitive slaves.

Our intelligence is not much greater than intelligence of other animals, probably we are not even the most intelligent species on the planet.
For example, orangutan Sandy scored 75 on IQ test live on TV, beating some of human competitors. Gorilla Koko scored between 70-90 on IQ tests. It is believed that elephants maintain 3D map of all places they ever visited in their life in their memory. This map is even updated with new information obtained through communication with other elephants. Chimps beat humans regularly in computer memory games. Dolphins, who are the most intelligent species on the planet IMO, can understand human language but we cannot understand theirs. And so on....

For all we know, the lowest threshold of what is called intelligence elsewhere in the universe could be IQ 1000 or IQ 2000. And we humans, with our average IQ 100 love to brag how intelligent we are. If we ever encounter some really intelligent species, with say IQ 2000, we would be nothing more than exotic animal to them, a ZOO specimen (but they probably don't have such barbaric concept as ZOO).

Considering that we are not that intelligent as we believe we are, our current situation is not much different than bunch of chimps sitting in front of red nuclear button and pondering whether to press it.
Frankly, I wouldn't rate humanity's chances too high.

Japanese researchers claim chimps have stronger memories than humans ​

Hippies had to do a lot of drugs to think Saturn's age would be great.

 

[Edrek]

Our intelligence is not much greater than intelligence of other animals, probably we are not even the most intelligent species on the planet.

I believe it's very important to always consider intelligence as a multi-faceted concept. "Intelligent" is often a "catch-all" word for very different types of capabilities, talents, aptitudes, perceptions, etc. I'm a strong advocate of the multiple intelligence theory - which I personally believe is "fact" after teaching all kinds of students and pets for over 30 years. Individuals - no matter what species - can be "very smart" in very different ways.

There are about nine intelligences (give or take) that have been recognized by those who have observed them in action for many years (as I have). Here's a chart that I find a basically satisfactory breakdown of "intelligences":

Whoever (or whatever) engineered the scientifically confirmed "explosive evolution" ("tumorous growth") of the cerebral cortex in the Pleistocene, which resulted in rapidly turning certain hominids into homo sapiens, obviously wanted to accelerate the "logical-mathematical" factor foremost, with "linguistic", "bodily-kinesthetic" and "spatial" probably close behind, as these intelligences would be the most practical to the "engineers" - good traits to have in groups of servants, workers and builders. It seems to me that the least important intelligences were the "interpersonal", "naturalist", 'intrapersonal" and "existential". (E.g., too much "intrapersonal" or "existential" intelligence would have made the servants question why they should unquestioningly serve their masters. Very inconvenient.)

Fortunately, these neglected intelligences grew on their own without manipulation in just enough people to keep civilization from being totally cold, unfair, cruel, and destructive - though it often comes very close to that...closer every day now....

A mitigating "logical" concept has been that of "enlightened self-interest" - i.e., making token efforts to show the masses that your pathologically avaricious trillionaire self is sometimes actually "generous" and "caring" - and hopefully they won't threaten you. The great concern I have is that more and more humans are falling for that gambit, as existential, intrapersonal,and interpersonal intelligences appear to be weakening rapidly - and more and more of humanity accepts "greed is good", "war is peace", and other nightmarish Orwellian tropes. But all this was prophesied long ago as inevitable during the climax and collapse of Kali Yuga.

Love them as I do, we still must accept that neither a dolphin nor a gorilla could ever build architectural wonders like the Pyramids, the Eiffel Tower, or the Great Wall of China, nor keep detailed inscribed records for posterity, nor create anything like a laptop computer (or even electricity) - and certainly nothing like Artificial Intelligence. Humans still have a clear advantage in cold logical-mathematical intelligence. BUT that is only one intelligence out of NINE.

At the same time, dolphins and gorillas have interpersonal and naturalist intelligences that make those of humankind in general seem savagely primitive. These two intelligences were not deliberately programmed into homo sapiens. Just look at the calamities throughout the world today, then think back to the Roman Colosseum, the Inquisitions, the Nazis, the oil industries, plastics choking our oceans, your daily news today...ad infinitum. Much to our shame, dolphins and gorillas stay in mutually supportive groups, welcome others into their clans, protect each other, show genuine concern, even for human beings! And they would never stupidly destroy their own environment as humankind has been doing for ages.

Regarding the entirety of the Human species, those Humans who know all Humans are idiots, are wiser than all of the Humans who think of themselves as geniuses.

Amen, brother! I could not have said it better! The great French writer, Gustave Flaubert, wrote: "The Earth has limits, but human stupidity is infinite." Einstein is reputed to have said something very similar.

 

[Cap]

Excellent points, Edrek.

Love them as I do, we still must accept that neither a dolphin nor a gorilla could ever build architectural wonders like the Pyramids, the Eiffel Tower, or the Great Wall of China, nor keep detailed inscribed records for posterity, nor create anything like a laptop computer (or even electricity) - and certainly nothing like Artificial Intelligence. Humans still have a clear advantage in cold logical-mathematical intelligence. BUT that is only one intelligence out of NINE.

However, I'm not convinced we have advantage over dolphins even in that one type of intelligence out of nine. Dolphins do have a spoken language and they pass the knowledge down through generations. In fact, if we want to discover what really happened in our ancient past we should learn how to communicate with them. Apparently, there is much effort going in that direction.

 

[Edrek]

I do agree that it is very probable that dolphins have linguistic/communicative (even historical) intelligence that is clearly (maybe vastly) superior to that of humans - in ways that we can't even comprehend yet. And it already seems self-evident that dolphins' interpersonal, naturalist, and spatial (their echo-location) intelligences are far superior to humans'. So it appears that dolphins already exceed homo sapiens in at least four of the nine intelligences above.

However, I still think that humans continue to dominate in cold, hard technical/logical/mathematical intelligence. At least tangibly. This intelligence has been hard-wired into humans. And it is one which - operating without sufficient intelligence in the other areas - has done the greatest harm to the Earth in endless ways - devastating warfare, dangerous pollution, unnatural extinctions, egregious income/power inequality....

Due to the limitations of dolphin anatomy, we may never know to what degree they possess this intelligence (which I know they have) or how they would employ it. This intelligence is not evil in itself - the evil is in its application. How would dolphins use it if they could...something to ponder.
Sadly, dolphins are not likely to reverse the destruction of our oceans, build underwater cities or submarines to protect themselves, or invent equipment that will permit them to navigate on land among us as we do underwater among them.

All of that first requires the one intelligence that obsesses and possesses homo sapiens the most, which is the only species that can fully wield it, given the more intricate, adaptable anatomy of human beings. That's why a hominid species was singled out for the "explosive brain evolution".

 

[JUPITERASC]

I will definitely concede that it is quite possible that dolphins have linguistic/communicative intelligence that may well be quite superior to that of humans - however, that is a different intelligence of the nine - but not one to be underrated! It is a different intelligence from the type that I believe humans still dominate - cold, hard technical/logical/mathematical intelligence (because this one was hard-wired into humans).

Unfortunately, due to the limitations of dolphin anatomy, we may never know to what degree they possess or could employ this latter intelligence - which has actually done great harm to the Earth in so many ways, from devastating weaponry to overwhelming pollution and species extinction.

Dolphins are not likely to ever put satellites into orbit, build underwater cities to protect themselves, or invent equipment that will permit them to navigate on land among us as we do underwater among them. That all involves the one intelligence that most obsesses mankind, coupled with his more complex and capable anatomy. (That's why a hominid species was singled out for the "explosive brain evolution".)

But if you allow for transmigratory evolution (which I scandalously do), these dolphins may be the brilliant citizens of a new and brighter Dwapara Yuga and mature Age of Aquarius that values all intelligences equally.

PS: The one "friend" I had who was a true genius (highest IQ score I'd ever seen) completely sabotaged his own life. He was intellectually arrogant, and he seemed to have no interpersonal, intrapersonal, or existential intelligences...and oddly enough was deficient in linguistic intelligence as well - he insisted on using bizarre mispronunciations, malapropisms. and had no sense of tact.

In fact he was frighteningly vengeful. He managed to alienate everyone, was thrown out of the honors program, wasted all his money recklessly. He had no musical talent whatsoever, threw trash out the window of the car, and believed there was nothing beyond this material world. He was overweight and clumsy. He had little that one might call "wisdom".

In fact, he lacked every intelligence above except the logical-mathematical, in which he excelled. He could figure out a mind-busting logic puzzle or solve the most difficult calculus problem faster than anyone I knew. And so what good did having that one great intelligence do him? Nothing. His was a tragically wasted life...a forerunner of what is to come, I believe.

 

[JUPITERASC]

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I believe it's very important to always consider intelligence as a multi-faceted concept. "Intelligent" is often a "catch-all" word for very different types of capabilities, talents, aptitudes, perceptions, etc. I'm a strong advocate of the multiple intelligence theory - which I personally believe is "fact" after teaching all kinds of students and pets for over 30 years. Individuals - no matter what species - can be "very smart" in very different ways.

e.g. CERN

There are about nine intelligences (give or take) that have been recognized by those who have observed them in action for many years (as I have). Here's a chart that I find a basically satisfactory breakdown of "intelligences":

View attachment 111816​

Whoever (or whatever) engineered the scientifically confirmed "explosive evolution" ("tumorous growth") of the cerebral cortex in the Pleistocene, which resulted in rapidly turning certain hominids into homo sapiens, obviously wanted to accelerate the "logical-mathematical" factor foremost, with "linguistic", "bodily-kinesthetic" and "spatial" probably close behind, as these intelligences would be the most practical to the "engineers" - good traits to have in groups of servants, workers and builders. It seems to me that the least important intelligences were the "interpersonal", "naturalist", 'intrapersonal" and "existential". (E.g., too much "intrapersonal" or "existential" intelligence would have made the servants question why they should unquestioningly serve their masters. Very inconvenient.)

Fortunately, these neglected intelligences grew on their own without manipulation in just enough people to keep civilization from being totally cold, unfair, cruel, and destructive - though it often comes very close to that...closer every day now....

A mitigating "logical" concept has been that of "enlightened self-interest" - i.e., making token efforts to show the masses that your pathologically avaricious trillionaire self is sometimes actually "generous" and "caring" - and hopefully they won't threaten you. The great concern I have is that more and more humans are falling for that gambit, as existential, intrapersonal,and interpersonal intelligences appear to be weakening rapidly - and more and more of humanity accepts "greed is good", "war is peace", and other nightmarish Orwellian tropes. But all this was prophesied long ago as inevitable during the climax and collapse of Kali Yuga.

Love them as I do, we still must accept that neither a dolphin nor a gorilla could ever build architectural wonders like the Pyramids, the Eiffel Tower, or the Great Wall of China, nor keep detailed inscribed records for posterity, nor create anything like a laptop computer (or even electricity) - and certainly nothing like Artificial Intelligence. Humans still have a clear advantage in cold logical-mathematical intelligence. BUT that is only one intelligence out of NINE.
At the same time, dolphins and gorillas have interpersonal and naturalist intelligences that make those of humankind in general seem savagely primitive. These two intelligences were not deliberately programmed into homo sapiens. Just look at the calamities throughout the world today, then think back to the Roman Colosseum, the Inquisitions, the Nazis, the oil industries, plastics choking our oceans, your daily news today...ad infinitum.

Much to our shame, dolphins and gorillas stay in mutually supportive groups, welcome others into their clans, protect each other, show genuine concern, even for human beings! And they would never stupidly destroy their own environment as humankind has been doing for ages.

Amen, brother! I could not have said it better! The great French writer, Gustave Flaubert, wrote: "The Earth has limits, but human stupidity is infinite." Einstein is reputed to have said something very similar.

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[Cap]

I do agree that it is very probable that dolphins have linguistic/communicative (even historical) intelligence that is clearly (maybe vastly) superior to that of humans - in ways that we can't even comprehend yet. And it already seems self-evident that dolphins' interpersonal, naturalist, and spatial (their echo-location) intelligences are far superior to humans'. So it appears that dolphins already exceed homo sapiens in at least four of the nine intelligences above.

However, I still think that humans continue to dominate in cold, hard technical/logical/mathematical intelligence. At least tangibly. This intelligence has been hard-wired into humans. And it is one which - operating without sufficient intelligence in the other areas - has done the greatest harm to the Earth in endless ways - devastating warfare, dangerous pollution, unnatural extinctions, egregious income/power inequality....

Due to the limitations of dolphin anatomy, we may never know to what degree they possess this intelligence (which I know they have) or how they would employ it. This intelligence is not evil in itself - the evil is in its application. How would dolphins use it if they could...something to ponder.
Sadly, dolphins are not likely to reverse the destruction of our oceans, build underwater cities or submarines to protect themselves, or invent equipment that will permit them to navigate on land among us as we do underwater among them.

All of that first requires the one intelligence that obsesses and possesses homo sapiens the most, which is the only species that can fully wield it, given the more intricate, adaptable anatomy of human beings. That's why a hominid species was singled out for the "explosive brain evolution".

I understand your point, humans are lacking in other types of intelligence. My point is that dolphins are superior to humans even in this specific type of intelligence where we are supposedly good.

"Cold, hard technical/logical/mathematical intelligence" would be the problem solving capacity and dolphins have far superior problem solving capacity in comparison to humans (in addition to other types of intelligence where dolphins are also superior). It's just that dolphins don't have that many problems to solve. We are their main problem.

IMO, average dolphin lives much happier life than average human. We have built this monstrous structure that we call civilization where almost every human on the planet works mostly meaningless jobs from 9 to 5 for the duration of his/her life in order to provide for basic necessities. Just think accounting, banking, record keeping and such - moving numbers around, what a sad, meaningless way to spend a life. The system that ultimately results in accumulation of wealth and power for very few humans, who then in turn engage in power struggle for ultimate control over the entire planet. This is not very intelligent way to live. If anything, this is testimony to our stupidity.

Anyway, for anyone who wants to support legal declaration of personhood and rights for cetaceans:

https://www.cetaceanrights.org/

Dolphins are known to commit suicide in captivity, giving them legal status of non-human person would prevent any further mistreatment of fellow intelligent species.

 

[Edrek]

"Cold, hard technical/logical/mathematical intelligence" would be the problem solving capacity and dolphins have far superior problem solving capacity in comparison to humans (in addition to other types of intelligence where dolphins are also superior).

I can't concur with what you write here.

One, it is now recognized that every type of intelligence involves problem-solving capability. And I am convinced after 30+ years of teaching that that is absolutely valid.

I should have warned you about the many amateurish descriptions of "types of intelligence" online which are just poor paraphrases of the original flawed, inchoate hypothesis first proposed over 40 years ago. Any description of logical-mathematical intelligence as merely "problem- solving capability" is nonsense - since problem-solving capability is an essential part of every other type of intelligence as well.

That's why I posted the more realistic nine-type chart above, which I ask that you re-examine. (There are more types proposed, possibly one for each sign of the zodiac. One I have my eyes on is a proposed "teaching–pedagogical intelligence".)

As this simplified chart above indicates, "logical-mathematical" tends toward "quantifying things, making hypotheses, and proving them". I would certainly include "analyzing functions, experimenting, inventing, and utilitarian construction".

A few tangible examples of animals not noted for superior logical-mathematical intelligence demonstrating their capacity to solve problems:

• Wolf packs work in planned cooperation to corral their prey exactly like dolphin pods work in cooperation to create "bait balls" for dinner. (Actually this requires a number of intelligences to accomplish.)
• Urban crows have been repeatedly filmed carefully dropping large, hard nuts onto city intersections exactly where they observe that cars' tires will roll over them - swooping down to pick up the cracked-open nutmeat when traffic clears.
• Octopi quickly learn how to unscrew the lid on a jar they've never seen before to get at edible prey inside. As in humans, their anatomy allows them more dexterity in solving physical problems.
• Chimps apparently teach others in their group how to "fish out" edible ants and termites in wood using a sappy stick.
• And after watching me get her food for less than a week, my brilliant 8-month-old kitten has figured out how to open my fridge, jump inside, push the lid off a big pot of her dry food and gorge herself. (I now have to block the door to the fridge.)

These are only a tiny sample of all the problem solving that animals do all the time, exhibiting intelligence that clearly goes beyond any genetic instinct.

However, all the above are not even close to the logical-mathematical intelligence required for figuring out the incredible complexities of astrology/astronomy, nor for Newton's Principia Mathematica or his invention of calculus, nor for discovering quantum mechanics and proving quantum entanglement, nor for landing rovers on Mars and controlling their movements from 140,000,000 miles away.

But it is suggested that dolphins could do any of this if they just had problems to solve?

It's just that dolphins don't have that many problems to solve. We are their main problem.

To start with your second statement, I fully agree - we certainly ARE their main problem. But in regard to your first statement:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/28/california-beaches-sea-lions-dolphins-dead
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/us/toxic-algae-bloom-california-dolphins-climate-scn/index.html
https://www.newsweek.com/warning-first-ever-american-dolphin-diagnosed-bird-flu-1895121
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ought-and-heat-in-brazilian-amazon-180983036/
https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-faq/why-are-the-dolphins-in-the-mekong-river-delta-dying/

Of course, this kind of disastrous news is harder and harder to find. Disregarded as too unpleasant and "negative", when people would rather indulge in viciously divisive hate and mass murder on ever-increasing scale so as to determine what heinous group of humans is better than another, when the majority are already monsters.

It is a heartbreaking honor that dolphins truly have multiple intelligences...

...instead of being dominated by just one - the logical-mathematical - operating pathologically out of control; a single intelligence that coldly quantifies child casualties like a game score, calmly hypothesizes how many will die from starvation, scientifically calculates how soon many species will become extinct, analyzes with fascination just how incredibly wide the gap between the rich and the poor has/will become, examines with great interest the effects of toxins on fellow beings, experiments recklessly, dangerously, with newly invented technological risks (like AI that has already encouraged us to put glue on our pizza, to eat a rock every day, and to jump off a bridge if we're depressed), all the while constructing incredibly useful killer drones and invaluable devices that will spy on and permanently record your every move.

Despite its many tangents, this old thread is now back to where it started in September 2019...as if one could already sense at that time the coming of a pandemic that would soon ravage the planet. The warning has long been sounded here - but it was only a small voice crying in the wilderness, heard by only a helpless few. And as this thread began, so it ends...empty and silent.

The greater the attempt to see reality, the more reality seems horrible and hopeless. We cannot hold back the progression of the Ages. It may take a few hundred years before there is any rebirth of our civilization. Denial may be a far preferable state of mind now. Some are already great masters of it.

May the dolphins reincarnate as the gentle masters of our future.

 

[Cap]

I can't concur with what you write here.

One, it is now recognized that every type of intelligence involves problem-solving capability. And I am convinced after 30+ years of teaching that that is absolutely valid.

I should have warned you about the many amateurish descriptions of "types of intelligence" online which are just poor paraphrases of the original flawed, inchoate hypothesis first proposed over 40 years ago. Any description of logical-mathematical intelligence as merely "problem- solving capability" is nonsense - since problem-solving capability is an essential part of every other type of intelligence as well.

I agree with you and I stand corrected. Yes, it is wrong to describe "logical-mathematical intelligence" as merely "problem-solving capability".
Dolphin brain architecture suggests they should excel in this type of intelligence too but I guess we will never know unless we find a way to communicate with them.

However, all the above are not even close to the logical-mathematical intelligence required for figuring out the incredible complexities of astrology/astronomy, nor for Newton's Principia Mathematica or his invention of calculus, nor for discovering quantum mechanics and proving quantum entanglement, nor for landing rovers on Mars and controlling their movements from 140,000,000 miles away.

But it is suggested that dolphins could do any of this if they just had problems to solve?

I partially agree here. While scientific and technological advancement may serve as an argument for logical-mathematical intelligence, the absence of such advancement doesn't necessarily mean the capability for such advancement is not there in the form of potential. If we go back enough in human history, before astronomy, mathematics, electricity, satellites or Mars rovers, it was the same human being with the same logical-mathematical potential but these capabilities were not yet fully manifested in the form of scientific/technological progress.
But in the case of dolphins, their anatomy may prevent them from manifesting such capabilities.

Assuming the universe is inhabited with other intelligent species besides humans and dolphins, probably there is an infinite variety of combinations of intelligence and technological level. There could be super-intelligent species with zero technological level just as there could be modestly intelligent species with high tech level.
Using the intelligence division provided by you, IMO the most intelligent species in the universe would be focused more on philosophical/spiritual questions (not in the religious sense) rather than on technological advancement, so they would exhibit primarily "existential intelligence". This is something that humans also have but it is in the shadow of "logical-mathematical" type of intelligence.

...instead of one overpowering one in a pathological, "tumorous" brain, one that coldly quantifies child causualties like a game score, calmly hypothesizes how many will die from starvation, scientifically calculates how soon many species will become extinct, analyzes with fascination just how incredibly wide the gap between the rich and the poor has/will become, examines with great interest the effects of toxins on fellow beings, excitedly experiments with a newly invented technology threat (like the latest one that encourages us to put glue on our pizza, rocks in our stomachs, and to jump off a bridge if we're depressed), and builds incredibly useful killer drones and invaluable devices that will spy on your every move.

Well said and unfortunately very true.

This old thread is now back on track, The Ugly Side of the Age of Aquarius. So perhaps this is where this old thread should die. The warning has been more more than sounded - despite the many tangents. But the greater the attempt to show reality, the more reality is devastating. It serves no beneficent purpose. It may take a few hundred years before there is any rebirth of our civilization. Denial may be far preferable at this time. Some are already great masters of it.

IMO, horrible as it sounds, even this is overly optimistic. Humanity, as it is, most likely won't live to see the Age of Aquarius. From the point of view of Human 1.0 Age of Aquarius may be the end of humanity. But, I guess it depends on perspective. From the point of view of Human 2.0 (cyborg) Age of Aquarius could be phenomenal.

I've been following the work of several independent scientists and researchers for several years now. Of course, you will not hear about this in MSM or mainstream scientific community but the situation is beyond grim. Transition towards cyborg human is in full swing and 99% of people are not even aware of this. Something (technology) was injected into humans via so called "covid vaccines" and now EVERYONE is infected. Since these things are self-replicating and can transfer from one organism to another, potentially all life on Earth as we know it could disappear, not just humans.

https://zeeemedia.com/interview/mar...-nanobots-inside-people-programming-humanity/

 

[Opal]

I believe it's very important to always consider intelligence as a multi-faceted concept. "Intelligent" is often a "catch-all" word for very different types of capabilities, talents, aptitudes, perceptions, etc. I'm a strong advocate of the multiple intelligence theory - which I personally believe is "fact" after teaching all kinds of students and pets for over 30 years. Individuals - no matter what species - can be "very smart" in very different ways.

There are about nine intelligences (give or take) that have been recognized by those who have observed them in action for many years (as I have). Here's a chart that I find a basically satisfactory breakdown of "intelligences":

View attachment 111816​

Whoever (or whatever) engineered the scientifically confirmed "explosive evolution" ("tumorous growth") of the cerebral cortex in the Pleistocene, which resulted in rapidly turning certain hominids into homo sapiens, obviously wanted to accelerate the "logical-mathematical" factor foremost, with "linguistic", "bodily-kinesthetic" and "spatial" probably close behind, as these intelligences would be the most practical to the "engineers" - good traits to have in groups of servants, workers and builders. It seems to me that the least important intelligences were the "interpersonal", "naturalist", 'intrapersonal" and "existential". (E.g., too much "intrapersonal" or "existential" intelligence would have made the servants question why they should unquestioningly serve their masters. Very inconvenient.)

Fortunately, these neglected intelligences grew on their own without manipulation in just enough people to keep civilization from being totally cold, unfair, cruel, and destructive - though it often comes very close to that...closer every day now....

A mitigating "logical" concept has been that of "enlightened self-interest" - i.e., making token efforts to show the masses that your pathologically avaricious trillionaire self is sometimes actually "generous" and "caring" - and hopefully they won't threaten you. The great concern I have is that more and more humans are falling for that gambit, as existential, intrapersonal,and interpersonal intelligences appear to be weakening rapidly - and more and more of humanity accepts "greed is good", "war is peace", and other nightmarish Orwellian tropes. But all this was prophesied long ago as inevitable during the climax and collapse of Kali Yuga.

Love them as I do, we still must accept that neither a dolphin nor a gorilla could ever build architectural wonders like the Pyramids, the Eiffel Tower, or the Great Wall of China, nor keep detailed inscribed records for posterity, nor create anything like a laptop computer (or even electricity) - and certainly nothing like Artificial Intelligence. Humans still have a clear advantage in cold logical-mathematical intelligence. BUT that is only one intelligence out of NINE.

At the same time, dolphins and gorillas have interpersonal and naturalist intelligences that make those of humankind in general seem savagely primitive. These two intelligences were not deliberately programmed into homo sapiens. Just look at the calamities throughout the world today, then think back to the Roman Colosseum, the Inquisitions, the Nazis, the oil industries, plastics choking our oceans, your daily news today...ad infinitum. Much to our shame, dolphins and gorillas stay in mutually supportive groups, welcome others into their clans, protect each other, show genuine concern, even for human beings! And they would never stupidly destroy their own environment as humankind has been doing for ages.

Amen, brother! I could not have said it better! The great French writer, Gustave Flaubert, wrote: "The Earth has limits, but human stupidity is infinite." Einstein is reputed to have said something very similar.

One thing I have noticed is that the creatures of earth, all have language, that differ from each other, but is understood by all of them. We are the ones that don’t understand them.

Why are the sea creatures beaching themselves? Radar broke? Stomachs so full of garbage that won’t breakdown, that they want to show us in their intelligence, that we are killing them.

Just read that they are finding microplastics in humans.