Forensic Astrology

leomoon

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TIPS:
Fixed Signs Rising: = the matter is established already under way determined to meet it's goal
ASC in Last 3 Degrees = "Non Radical" or Stricture Against judgement of the chart Via Combusta (15 deg LIbra - 15 Scorpio) \Similar to Mars cj. Uranus or "disruptive! Produces unexpected turns of events when planet is rx and the other direct in aspect or Venus square Neptune rx mutual application if $ then one partner could be lying when there is a partnership

9th House = Law, Publicity, Media coverage & Travel long distances
18 Libra = Degree of Arrest
07 Scorpio = Self contained and inclined toward materialistic
Intercepts = thwarted or obstructed. unable to land i.e. 12th hs. & mutables.
(see Tiffany Tehan)

Neptune rules mysteries & Secrets
Mercury the traditional ruler of children
Saturn fate, destiny & death
 

leomoon

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Infamous case of missing (kidnapped & murdered?) Steven Koecher in Utah - (last seen on a video in the neighborhood passing out flyers for a new job he took on for installing windows)
Steve Sun Scorpio
Last Seen: Moon was in Scorpio 21st degree, a "definite loss" deg.
Saturn square Pluto conj. Uranus at the ASC Pisces (a ruse) same degree as NN
Moon Square both chart rulers (Jupiter & Neptune)
note: POF= misfortune in 12th house Saturn in 7th opposing the ASC/Uranus cj. a stalker (Juno) may have been a woman who lured him into a house?
 

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leomoon

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Steven Koecher: Last seen on video in Henderson Nevada at a cul de sac parking spot. Wikipedia:
At 11:54 a.m., a home security camera on Savannah Springs Avenue in Sun City, a retirement community in the Anthem development in southern Henderson, recorded Koecher's car driving into the cul-de-sac where it was later found. Six minutes later or 12:00 (see chart above post) , a figure believed by his family to be Koecher, wearing a white shirt and slacks, walked the opposite direction down the sidewalk in front, carrying something in one hand that appeared to be a file folder or portfolio. Shortly afterwards another security camera in a garage on adjacent Evening Lights Street caught his reflection as he walked north. Koecher has not been seen since.

Note: Accdg. to Wikipedia, his cell phone remained active for 2 more days.....I can't recall why Tuba constructed this chart however, it must have been connected to something or other she considered to be evidence in the case. Its been too long now to recall ) Ref> chart 2

 

Opal

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As for the chart titled: Last Contact 5:47 PM (I don't know if you have a link for timing)?? But it may be the last time Joey and Chase met for dinner in Northern California? Or was it the last phone call Joey had with Summer his wife ? Its important we know the situation with the chart.

In post #10, are the links with the times I used.

“It was an ordinary day until 5:47 p.m. After that, no one heard from them again. All credit card activity stopped. The family vanished.”

“They got their first clue when they learned a neighbor's surveillance camera had captured what appeared to be the family's Isuzu trooper leaving the cul de sac at 7:47 p.m. on the night they went missing.”
 

Opal

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I am trying in this thread to use times of moments, to see what the moments influence that is known compares to the chart for that moment.
 

Opal

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In this chart, last known contact, the moon is at 4 degrees in the 3rd house of communication in Scorpio.

Saturn is at 4 degrees in the 2nd house of Libra, a personal money house.

Pluto is at 4 degrees in the 5th of children, and of escaping from responsibilities. In Capricorn.

Jupiter is at 4 degrees Pisces, in the 7th. In the house of the perpetrator but the house is ruled by Aquarius.

Neptune and Chiron are conjunct in the same degree at 25 Aquarius, also conjunct the descendant, the perpetrator at 21 degrees Aquarius.

Did the Neptune conjunct Chiron in Aquarius hide the perpetrator’s intentions?
 

leomoon

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I am trying in this thread to use times of moments, to see what the moments influence that is known compares to the chart for that moment.
Are there any posts here that you want me to delete that don't belong then? Just let me know and I'll delete them.
 

Opal

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Are there any posts here that you want me to delete that don't belong then? Just let me know and I'll delete them.
All is fine Leomoon, thank you for all you give! I do want this thread to have the information you have imparted, but I would like to try and keep most examples, of something with an exact time. A known 911 call. A known last seen time. A known death time. I want charts, that the time is exact, to see what the stars show.

With the Moscow murders, I look at the charts of times, and what we are told doesn’t mesh to me.

Now, I want to see other charts, with known times and places. There are things recorded, I want to see the moment of whatever.
 

leomoon

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All is fine Leomoon, thank you for all you give! I do want this thread to have the information you have imparted, but I would like to try and keep most examples, of something with an exact time. A known 911 call. A known last seen time. A known death time. I want charts, that the time is exact, to see what the stars show.

With the Moscow murders, I look at the charts of times, and what we are told doesn’t mesh to me.

Now, I want to see other charts, with known times and places. There are things recorded, I want to see the moment of whatever.
OK then, these charts I posted are all "known times" given. Even the noon chart. It was precisely at noontime for the Steven K recorded disappearance on CCTV. (closed circuit camera where he parked)
 

Opal

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Leomoon,

What’s your experience with overly watery charts. Koecher’s is quite watery. I’m noticing a connection between very bloody scenes and water.

Also, the 12th is pretty active. Similar to the animals attacking charts.

There is a lot of feminine energy too. Goes with the woman theory.
 

leomoon

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Leomoon,

What’s your experience with overly watery charts. Koecher’s is quite watery. I’m noticing a connection between very bloody scenes and water.

Also, the 12th is pretty active. Similar to the animals attacking charts.

There is a lot of feminine energy too. Goes with the woman theory.
Steven K was believed to be single and different - they thought he once had a girlfriend he had had wanted to stop to see over the holidays. He was from a large Mormon family and all his siblings were professionals except for Steven. He was trying to find his way in the world. Slower than the rest of them it was said. His father died while trying to find him. It was very sad. If I had to come up with one word to describe Steven, its probably naive . Here is his natal chart with transits on the day he disappeared: note: The TR of Atropos & Mars over his natal Mars and tr Moira over his Juno tells us he was very likely lured somewhere, perhaps into a house for some reason by one or more people perhaps in the "last seen neighborhood" distributing flyers. Since they are asteroids connected to death, I don't think he got out alive.

from Wikipedia: (there was also a Facebook):

Theories​

We've considered every possibility. But each possibility has a contradiction. Is it plausible that someone is walking down the street and then suddenly they've vanished? All clues are consistent with that, but that's not possible.
— Rolf Koecher, [10]

Koecher's family believes, given his financial circumstances at the time, that he had gone to Henderson that morning for a job opportunity.[2] Despite the odd location where he parked his car, on the video the neatly dressed Koecher is walking purposefully, suggesting he knew where he was going and what he was going there for. "He doesn't look confused or dazed", Steven's brother Dallin said in 2018.

But beyond that, there is no evidence to suggest what happened afterwards, nor has anything emerged subsequently which could. "We know about as much now as we did the second we realized he was gone," the St. George police detective in charge of the case said in 2018.[17] Koecher's difficulties notwithstanding, his family does not believe he chose to voluntarily disappear in order to escape them, or take his own life. His mother said that in her last conversation with him, on December 10, he was optimistic about his ability to find another job and the two were making plans for his Christmas visit home
 

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Opal

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Infamous case of missing (kidnapped & murdered?) Steven Koecher in Utah - (last seen on a video in the neighborhood passing out flyers for a new job he took on for installing windows)
Steve Sun Scorpio
Last Seen: Moon was in Scorpio 21st degree, a "definite loss" deg.
Saturn square Pluto conj. Uranus at the ASC Pisces (a ruse) same degree as NN
Moon Square both chart rulers (Jupiter & Neptune)
note: POF= misfortune in 12th house Saturn in 7th opposing the ASC/Uranus cj. a stalker (Juno) may have been a woman who lured him into a house?
Both modern and traditional significators for him, are tightly conjunct in the 12th, in Aquarius. Conjunct Chiron as well. Square the moon in the 8th, in Scorpio.

His asc is Scorpio and his 4th is Aquarius, he could be abducted. I was out last night, back tonight.
 

leomoon

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I don't know if you or others heard of this rather gory case from Bonita Springs Florida:


Teresa Ann Grace Sievers, MD, 46, of Bonita Springs died unexpectedly Monday, June 29, 2015 at her residence. Teresa was born November 19, 1968 in Derby, CT

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/news-press/name/teresa-sievers-obituary?id=16001082

Teresa was the main breadwinner in this family. Her husband worked in her office as a kind of office manager. He had a childhood friend named Curtis Wayne Wright who could pass for his identical twin people said, and it was this friend who arranged for Teresa's husband Mark Sievers the death of Teresa when asked. Curtis (called Wayne), the best friend employed a friend of his also living out of town - with the nickname "The Hammer"and indeed, it was a hammer that was used in the dark in Teresa's kitchen as Teresa came back in town from her trip they attacked in her kitchen in a dark house that night.

The marriage was troubled, and Mark Sievers wanted the money that Teresa controlled & business she started for himself as well as the children instead of a divorce knowing he'd end up on the short stick. They had 2 children still young. They also had an "opened marriage" in which they would share partners. I think it was the husband's idea.

Youtube picks up from finding the body of Teresa: (after listening to part of the commercial, you can "skip ad" on the right when it shows up -


It appears that actor George Clooney will be in a movie about the murder of Teresa Sievers:


https://deadline.com/2021/09/lysa-h...ix-george-clooney-smokehouse-wiip-1234847314/
 
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leomoon

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Teresa Sievers Case:

Teresa Sievers was found dead in her Bonita Springs Fla. home (near Ft.Meyers) while traveling home alone one day early from a family celebration in Connecticut, while her husband and children stayed in CT. Teresa, he said, had patients she wanted to see.

"Still another says he heard a man’s voice shouting, shortly after that, coming from the direction of the Sievers’ home".

According to the transcript information on the show, it was around dawn or around 5-6A.M. (see paragraph from Wikipedia below)


Wikipedia: PUTS THE MURDER LATER THAN 6 A.M.

On the morning of June 27, 2015, Wright took a rental car from Hillsboro, Missouri and went to pick up Rodgers. The two men then drove over 1,000 miles to the Sievers family home in Bonita Springs, Florida. A GPS system log, which was later shown as evidence in court, tracked the route the men took. En route, they stopped at a gas station and were caught on surveillance tape. Wright and Rodgers arrived at the Sievers' home at approximately 6:00 a.m. on the morning of June 28. They entered the property and disabled the security alarm before leaving and taking another drive. The men were caught on surveillance tape at a local Walmart store where they purchased trash bags, wet wipes, black towels, black shoes, and a lock-picking kit. They then returned to the Sievers' home and waited for several hours until Teresa returned

JUNE 28, 2015 ARRIVED 6AM AND LEFT FOR WAL-MART RETURNING TO THE HOUSE TO WAIT FOR TERESA.

Photos here, including at Wal Mart:

 
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leomoon

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Chart 1 is Teresa Siever's murder plan Arrival of the 2 friends (one of them bff of her husband who gave him the key) making sure the security lights and camera were off that night. They went to Wal Mart seeing they still had time as Teresa wasn't home yet at 6AM - It appears to me that by the time of the 2nd chart (approx. 7:20) the two clowns were on their way back to Missouri, hightailing it out of town before anyone came to look for the dead Teresa laying on the kitchen floor in front of her refrigerator now. I don't think it was later than this hour.
 

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leomoon

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Jimmy Rodgers, aka “Hammer” on his FB account nickname. DOB: 4/1/90 Fenton Mo.
Posted a raunchy photo making fun of using a hammer to harm someone. It was posted on Facebook the 16th of June 2015, 13 days BEFORE Teresa Sievers was hammered to death. TOB unknown, used Sunrise Charts -

Wayne Wright: - he and Mark Sievers, the husband were the "brains" behind the entire thing. I don't think he touched Teresa, that was Jimmy Rodgers role.
 

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Opal

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Interesting. 6:20am chart. No, I was not aware of this case. Thank you.

Mars Cancer on the Ascendant. Sun is there too.

Chiron Pisces on the MC. Neptune is there too.

With Cancer Ascending she is the Moon, in Scorpio. Saturn is in the 29th degree Scorpio as well. And Atropos.

So again, in a very bloody murder, we have all the water signs occupied.

Pluto in the 7th Capricorn is aspecting tightly Moira 3rd house Virgo, and Klotho, in the 12th Gemini. Communication. Gemini and the 3rd, with Pluto partner in the 7th.

I think the time of the murder will be within 5 minutes of this chart. When either Mars is exact on the ascendant or when Chiron is exact to the MC.

Very interesting Leomoon!

I am working out of town. Getting home late and tired. Wind, winds me!
 

Opal

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In the 7:30am chart, there is nothing in the 4th.

Lilith, Lachesis and the NN are now in the 3rd.

3rd is communication and short journeys.

Moira was in the 3rd for both.

Pluto, Moira and Mercury are at 14 degrees, differing signs. Tightly aspecting.
 
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