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<blockquote data-quote="Astro-Intuitive" data-source="post: 206923" data-attributes="member: 11235">This is an extremely interesting thread! I am glad to see other astrologers (such as Cosmiccradle) employing the INCARN technology and methods of horoscope verification and total functionality. I would like to know more about what specific books by Alan Leo mentioned the Sun-Moon-ASC relationship to the precise moment horoscope elements become &quot;fixed&quot; in a horoscope. (Willner mentions a connection among the Sun-Moon-Uranus.)&nbsp;I was fortunate enough to get to know John Willner for a short time before he died (although, through e-mail correspondence - not in person) and to purchase the program from Fred Bickum (updated as Incarn2) shortly thereafter. I also agree that this method needs to be explicity known, because I think it will help so many astrologers (and the astrological community as a whole) to raise astrology to the standard of precision and practical application to which it is highly capable (and attainable).&nbsp;The only other thing that I know plays a role in the moment cosmic elements become fixed in a horoscope - other than the Sun-Moon-Uranus connection - is the zodiacal signs of Cancer and Sagittarius (which have a correlation to the Pineal and Pituitary glands, respectively, in the human body).&nbsp;If anyone has more insights into this I'd be very much interested in hearing more.&nbsp;Shaun</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Astro-Intuitive, post: 206923, member: 11235"] This is an extremely interesting thread! I am glad to see other astrologers (such as Cosmiccradle) employing the INCARN technology and methods of horoscope verification and total functionality. I would like to know more about what specific books by Alan Leo mentioned the Sun-Moon-ASC relationship to the precise moment horoscope elements become "fixed" in a horoscope. (Willner mentions a connection among the Sun-Moon-Uranus.) I was fortunate enough to get to know John Willner for a short time before he died (although, through e-mail correspondence - not in person) and to purchase the program from Fred Bickum (updated as Incarn2) shortly thereafter. I also agree that this method needs to be explicity known, because I think it will help so many astrologers (and the astrological community as a whole) to raise astrology to the standard of precision and practical application to which it is highly capable (and attainable). The only other thing that I know plays a role in the moment cosmic elements become fixed in a horoscope - other than the Sun-Moon-Uranus connection - is the zodiacal signs of Cancer and Sagittarius (which have a correlation to the Pineal and Pituitary glands, respectively, in the human body). If anyone has more insights into this I'd be very much interested in hearing more. Shaun [/QUOTE]

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