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<blockquote data-quote="Cosmiccradle" data-source="post: 204115" data-attributes="member: 12967">I seem to have forgotten how pointless it is to say anything regarding house systems unless I first preface treatment of the Asc.&nbsp;I do not use physical birth time Ascendants, nor does any INCARN Astrologer. Incarn astrology calculates Asc with the birth time (if there is a reliable one) only as a starting place, but determined by the algorithms known by Alan Leo, John Willner, Fred Bickum, which involve the use of the Sun, Moon, Uranus to determine what are essentially the inter-dimensional doorways through which a person can &quot;enter&quot; this dimension. Astrologers who have known these algorithms have not shared them with others. They are available now to everyone in the form of the INCARN software. [ INCARN2 for windows <a href="http://www.sbastro.com" target="_blank">www.sbastro.com</a> ]&nbsp;Seems a little weird &quot;big secret to be had in software&quot; what's your take on this Kannon?&nbsp;Or is <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=93604559" target="_blank">macthebull</a> perhaps better, pic sure looks like you.&nbsp;<a href="http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&amp;groupID=100266570&amp;page=10&amp;EntryID=70350159&amp;CategoryID=0&amp;get=1&amp;adTopicId=0&amp;lastpagesent=9&amp;Mytoken=2B26C574-B6A8-4F26-952801CEF1F64C0D96062107" target="_blank">http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&amp;groupID=100266570&amp;page=10&amp;EntryID=70350159&amp;CategoryID=0&amp;get=1&amp;adTopicId=0&amp;lastpagesent=9&amp;Mytoken=2B26C574-B6A8-4F26-952801CEF1F64C0D96062107</a>&nbsp;All mixed up CC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cosmiccradle, post: 204115, member: 12967"] I seem to have forgotten how pointless it is to say anything regarding house systems unless I first preface treatment of the Asc. I do not use physical birth time Ascendants, nor does any INCARN Astrologer. Incarn astrology calculates Asc with the birth time (if there is a reliable one) [B]only[/B] as a starting place, but determined by the algorithms known by Alan Leo, John Willner, Fred Bickum, which involve the use of the Sun, Moon, Uranus to determine what are essentially the inter-dimensional doorways through which a person can "enter" this dimension. Astrologers who have known these algorithms have not shared them with others. They are available now to everyone in the form of the INCARN software. [ INCARN2 for windows [URL="http://www.sbastro.com"]www.sbastro.com[/URL] ] [COLOR=darkred]Seems a little weird "[COLOR=darkslategray]big secret to be had in software[/COLOR]" what's your take on this [B]Kannon[/B]?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000]Or is [URL="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=93604559"][B][COLOR=#003399]macthebull[/COLOR][/B][/URL] perhaps better, pic sure looks like you.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b0000][/COLOR] [URL]http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100266570&page=10&EntryID=70350159&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=9&Mytoken=2B26C574-B6A8-4F26-952801CEF1F64C0D96062107[/URL] All mixed up CC. [COLOR=#8b0000][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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