I have attached the chartPlease post the natal chart with that configuration in it. And yes, Neptune in the 8th could mean that the person is blind (at first) to the fact that the other person may be abusive. We think of abuse as something that is obvious from the beginning.
And it might be. But the person with Neptune in one of the marriage houses (7 or 9) may not be vigilant about this issue. They may make excuses at first (for the other person's abusive ways, esp. verbal abuse). If the other person has had a bad day or a bad week or a bad financial situation we may may that excuse for them.
But abuse is usually something "handed down" from parents to children. And if a person is abusive it's probable that they learned this from the dynamics in their home.
If we fall in love with someone we can try to "live with it" - because we are in "love." AND we assume that the person can change.
However: abusers don't change.
Neptune in the 8th is very problematic at it can also mean deception in the relationship. OR not being fully truthful about the past. OR a number of other issues that are hidden at first which Neptune keeps us from seeing the truth and sometimes even keeps us from WANTiNG to see the truth.
The square to Mars represents issues with men or issues with asserting yourself or dealing with your own desires, needs and creativity.
The square to Saturn means that there is a "war" between the "titans" - Neptune and Saturn. Saturn wants structure and truth and strength. Neptune is the deceiver.
So....not great for relationships.
And if Saturn actually OPPOSES Mars then you have to make a conscious decision of whether you want to have drama in your life even if it means not having a future of a safe, structured, future where you can have a permanent, traditional family, - because you can't have children if you are in an abusive relationship. The abuser will abuse the children too.
I have given you a partial answer - as I have not actually seen the chart. There might be other energies which can modify the negativity of the squares. But I would have to see it.
here is my chart
Thank youSure enough, you have highly relevant Pluto aspects. Pluto conjunct Juno, the partnership asteroid--that's rather similar to Pluto conjunct Venus. And trine Jupiter, your DC ruler, while Pluto itself is in your seventh house whole sign (though sixth Placidus). And trine your sun, too.
If you've experienced partner abuse, that says something about your relationship to Pluto - power. Chances are you draw people into your life who reflect your shadow side. Relationships are shadow work for you. If you're not conscious about it, that's a set up for being in an abusive relationship.
And maybe there's an extra strong emotional attachment to your partner(s), or even just to the idea of being in a relationship, with your moon on the DC. If that's the case, you might be inclined to rush into a relationship and/or hold onto it at all costs, so as not to have to be single. If the relationship is with someone who's abusive, that would result in you ignoring the red flags at the early stage and then not wanting to leave after the abuse surfaces.
and I have neptune in 8th square saturn means poor spouse?
Thank you,It was all helpful comment.Now I understand better.Do you mean poor as in the opposite of rich? Or poor as in they're not a good spouse?
Assuming you mean financially, I don't think your eighth house has anything to do with whether your spouse is rich or poor or anything in between. How strong your eighth house is, compared to your second house, might indicate whether you prosper more through your own individual efforts (second house) or through shared, inherited, or other people's resources (eighth).
If the eighth house is stronger, maybe your spouse is your main source of financial support. Maybe you benefit greatly from inherited wealth. Or maybe you earn your own living, but the way you earn it is strongly dependent on other people's money. That could be a job that's funded by grants, or a government job funded by tax money, or a sales job that pays commission only, or a fundraising job in which you have to secure the funding for your own salary. If you spend much of your life studying, and you pay your living expenses through student allowances (if you live in a country that has them), that would also be eighth house.
If your second house is stronger, you're more likely to need to make your own income than be able to depend on other people's. In that kind of case, maybe you make more money than your spouse. Maybe you're the one who supports them. Or, if you and your spouse work together, maybe you're the one who handles the financial side. You probably wouldn't profit much from inheritance, or if you did inherit money, your earnings would still be greater than anything you inherit.
In your case, your second house is ruled by an angular moon. That looks very good for your finances and your ability to make your own living. But, since the moon is on the DC, that might speak to getting some help from a spouse/partner. Maybe they support you financially at a certain time in your life. Maybe you share a business with them. Or, the DC could indicate having one or more business partners, or making a living in a field where you would work one-on-one with clients. You've mentioned wanting to be a lawyer. That could be that kind of field.
Neptune doesn't rule your second house or your eighth, and it's so close to the cusp of your ninth house that it arguably has more say over ninth house matters than eighth house ones. It doesn't rule any house, in fact, since you have Pisces intercepted. I don't see Neptune having any particular impact on your finances, or, if you marry, your spouse's.
I'd say they're both more or less equally strong. Your Saturn isn't angular, but it is decently placed by sign and house. If we take it to mean anything about your spouse's finances, I would expect his income to be steady (Taurus), maybe because he's very conscientious about earning and saving. The eleventh house placement suggests, maybe, good long term planning, or income that isn't necessarily high to begin with but increases over the long term, or income gained through group endeavors.Is my 2nd home stronger than my 8th?
If you haven't started your career yet, how do you know how well you really earn?I don't want my partner to earn less money for me, since I don't gain so well
Thank youI'd say they're both more or less equally strong. Your Saturn isn't angular, but it is decently placed by sign and house. If we take it to mean anything about your spouse's finances, I would expect his income to be steady (Taurus), maybe because he's very conscientious about earning and saving. The eleventh house placement suggests, maybe, good long term planning, or income that isn't necessarily high to begin with but increases over the long term, or income gained through group endeavors.
The eleventh house also indicates your own income from your career, because it's the second house from the tenth. I've gathered that you're currently a student. Possibly, when you get a career going, this Saturn/eleventh house placement will describe your income. Whether you marry or not, you can do well enough financially if you manage your income in a Taurean way--conscientiously, with prudent investments and saving.
If you haven't started your career yet, how do you know how well you really earn?
The DC placement of your second house ruler does suggest income that either comes from a spouse/partner, or that the two of you make together. Maybe you'll start a business with your spouse. Maybe, if you go ahead with your plan to become a lawyer, you'll marry a fellow lawyer, and have a practice together. That would fulfill both your second and your eighth house at once.