Do you have any natal planets combust?

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Thanks for the reply A50
i did not use pluto as some people are saying only use 5deg for combust, so does that mean i take on uranian and pluto personality or are they hidden by the sun? (well they are in the 12 house,)
This tread is very interesting, but it confused me in some way. :unsure:

The orbs for sun and moon are upto 10' so yes you will have some scorpio/pluto traits. Problem being they are 'trapped' hidden in 12th house. Here are some links for further research..

12th house planets/aspects
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoun...rmaHouse12.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses-sun.html#Twelfthhttp://www.astrology.com/aboutastrology/interpreting/houses/house12.html

Research threads on AW
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ght=12th+house
 
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MJ82

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New to this thread, and sorry if I missed it in this forum, but can someone explain what combust exactly means? And how can you tell if you have a natal planet combust? Thanks :whistling:
 
New to this thread, and sorry if I missed it in this forum, but can someone explain what combust exactly means? And how can you tell if you have a natal planet combust? Thanks :whistling:

Originally Posted by Olivia http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=276124#post276124
If it's within 17 minutes of the Sun, it's cazimi.
Basically what happens in cazimi is the planet is considered to be 'sitting in the lap of the king' and is given great power.


If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign.

From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.

In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift.


Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.
Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous.
Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.

A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.

“For technical purposes, in Western astrology, most ancient and medieval authorities considered a planet combust or burnt when its position was within 5-8 degrees on either side of the Sun. However, a planet will continue to be weakened by the Sun until it has elongated by 15-17 degrees from it. (Lilly says 17 degrees on p. 113 of Christian Astrology.) This positioning is said to be under the beams of the Sun, and although it may be stronger than being combust, it will still cause a noticeable weakening in a planet's effectiveness.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)

“Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature.
Wilson says "there seems manifest a difference in genius and propensities of natives, according to the distance of their Mercury from the Sun; and that those whose Mercury is combust have little wit or solid judgment, though they will persevere in business and frequently with good success.”
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php
 
Cazimi/combust
“So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)
 

Moog

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I've been analyzing other people's charts, and some of them have planets that are combust. However, it appears (to me anyway) that their combust planets perform just fine in real life (for example, this one person who has Jupiter exalted but combust still has lots lof luck in life). I don't have any planets combust so will never know how combust planets affect a native, but if you do, how has a combust planet affected you personally? Or do you find that it performs just fine?

Mercury and Libra are both combust in my own chart. But, they lay in the 12th house (whole sign) which also spoils their strength, according to traditional astrological rules.

Very hard to decide which was the cause of my early communication problems without more study and observation. Could be both.
 
Mercury and Libra are both combust in my own chart. But, they lay in the 12th house (whole sign) which also spoils their strength, according to traditional astrological rules.

Very hard to decide which was the cause of my early communication problems without more study and observation. Could be both.

libra is a sign not a planet, mercury has to be very close to a planet to be considered combust....

Having planets in 12th house even with Modern astrologers like myself consider planets in 12th to be afflicted, hidden as 12th house *dissolves* planetary energies...
 

Moog

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libra is a sign not a planet, mercury has to be very close to a planet to be considered combust....

Having planets in 12th house even with Modern astrologers like myself consider planets in 12th to be afflicted, hidden as 12th house *dissolves* planetary energies...

Oops, that shoulda read VENUS, not Libra. They are both in Libra

Yeah, 12th house gubbins definitely seems to have problems.
 

Lion o ness

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I have both Moon, and Mercury combust.

Moon..
Moon conjunct Sun is very emotional, which is true I am very emotional. But at the same time I rarely express it..
My emotions are locked away, and I express them in my own ways and/or privately...
Most people would say I am not an emotional person.

Mercury Rx
I like to talk and communicate, but I need to feel comfortable with someone. I cant just talk to anyone..
I think really fast, and sometimes, my sentences will run into each other, because Im already thinking about the next 2 sentence's,
 
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