mountainlily
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Thank you for clarifying Zarathu!
Do You Have A Grand Trine?
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RamonaSmileee
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Ok, so I guess I have 2 Grand Trine: Virgo Asc trine Mercury in Taurus trine Neptune in Capricorn and 2.Virgo Asc trine Mercury trine Uranus in Aquarius. All I know about those is that the first is good for writers 
Cold Fusion
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Grand trines, a t-square, a yod, plus probably a chart with the most aspects there is, with many planets at 17 degrees (Asteroids too), my Sun-Neptune midpoint is conjunct the M.C.
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mjackieward7
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do I have a fire grand trine without trines?,is it possible ?
Osamenor
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It's not possible to have a grand trine without trines. A grand trine is three trines snapped together like Tinker toys, forming a triangle. You can have trines without having a grand trine, but you can't have a grand trine without having trines.
To have a fire grand trine, you have to have a planet in Aries, a planet in Leo, and a planet in Sagittarius (or planets in two of those signs and an angle in the third), all of which form trines with each other.
I am in the grand trine club because I have just that: sun in Leo, moon in Sagittarius, and a Jupiter/IC/Chiron conjunction in Aries, all trine.
mjackieward7
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I have a grand trine with my Sun, MD, and Moon/Uranus/Neptune conjunct, all in earth
I just noticed it this week so I'd love to know more about it
I don't think is possible or consider to have a Grand Trine without a third planet. First of all, you need the energy of the third planet other wise, where would the energy of the other two planets interchange in a continuous conduct point. See if there is no third planet, is like two water whose pouring water out with out a third conector and yea it can trine to the angles but you still need a third planet. A grand in itself is three planets conecting in a harmonious way to each other. So no, you need a third planet if you are to be consider to have a grand trine. I am new at astrology and I started researching this issue in the last weeks and I think this is most accurate form of perceiving grand trines.
Best regards
Osamenor
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The definition of a grand trine is either three planets that all trine each other, or two planets plus one angle that all trine each other. Some astrologers also consider it a grand trine if it involves two planets plus a point other than an angle, such as the north or south node, Part of Fortune, etc. So yes, it is possible to have a grand trine without a third planet.
The angles are not strong enough to form grand trines or other complex aspects by themselves, without the involvement of planets, but they are strong enough to change an aspect between planets into a complex aspect--such as a trine into a grand trine--if the angle is only one point in the aspect and the others are formed by planets.
Osamenor
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Yes, you have a grand trine. A sun/Mercury conjunction (Libra) trines Saturn (Aquarius) and the moon (Gemini), all in the early degrees of their signs. So it's an air grand trine.
waterygemini
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Do we have a thread for out of sign aspects? My own chart has some that I think are weird as heck. Like Leo ascendant trine Pluto in Scorpio....or Virgo Mercury opposite Moon in Aquarius.
No grand trine in my chart though....
AppLeo
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I've posted some threads and read some threads on out of sign aspects. What I got from them is that it's up to you to decide. Generally, modern astrologers count out of sign, and traditional astrologers do not.
conspiracy theorist
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Many people count out-of-sign aspects as being valid in a chart, especially if the orbs are close i.e. 3 degrees or less.
Another barometer to gauge is if the aspect seems to have an effect in your life. An example is my Moon in Aquarius square Pluto in Sagittarius. Based on how my life is, I'd say this aspect is very operative. But it helps that both planets are both close in declination to further merge these two together.
newinsightastrology
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Yes. A very old thread and thank you all for 'dusting it off'. As far as the Grand Trine and out of sign goes the most important thing is orb between the planets.
Planets that are in a very weak orb that are all in the same sign will not manifest themselves as strongly in the individual's life as planets that are very close in orb, this is true in sign or out of sign.
Planets that are in a very weak orb that are all in the same sign will not manifest themselves as strongly in the individual's life as planets that are very close in orb, this is true in sign or out of sign.
Thanks, Snapple Apple!
So for conjunctions it'd have to be within 3 degrees of each other. While for say the Square (I have this square to Jupiter) it'd have to be, say 5 degrees Jupiter square 28 degrees Moon?
conspiracy theorist
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Since it's an applying aspect, I'd say it can be counted. If it was the other way around it may be an incredibly faint influence.
mjackieward7
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I Heard that grand trines to points with only two planets does not count. Why? because most charts are innacurate by half an hour or so the chances for people to actually have a grand trine with two planets and a point in the chart are slim...
This is not what I think, is what I heard....
