DNA and our natal charts with ancestry

leomoon

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I was reading an update on Celine Dion's health today by her older sister (20 yrs older) Her much older husband Rene' died in 2016. She (Celine) now is suffering from a rare disease called "Stiff Body Syndrome" which caused her to give up singing in Las Vegas an extremely lucrative profession worth multi-millions, but health comes first. Her natal chart gives a 6th house Saturn ruled (bones & body structure) as is the 7th house ruled by Saturn. We wish her well.


I thought to myself, since my maternal side is from Quebec we may very well be related - and sure enough, we are blood cousins straight through. I'm not surprised. I always loved her singing the Ave Maria -

 

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leomoon

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Remember, if you are following this thread for your own edification one day- (someone told me they will order a DNA test), and want to know if they are related to someone halfway famous, the best place to find out would be to do a few trees. Do one on MyHeritage for free, one on the other sites I listed earlier on this thread (about 3 others) like "Family Search" (excellent site) and WikiTree they all are somewhat connected once you start trees and do your GEDCOM number you get from your DNA and share with them . After awhile, and you start a tree on Geni.com (where you can put a free tree) but they will try & get you to upgrade too, just don't fall for it !.....take the free approach - you can then put in anytime you wish to the name on your search engine of a famous person like "Old King Cole.geni.com press search, and it will come up with your name and tell you if you two are related . But first you have to have a tree there and enough time in with enough people started on these other "free tree sites" for them to find your relatives.....It doesn't take too long, just be patient. In a month or two you'll have plenty of people added by the various sites themselves as they share. Many of these tree sites have the free trees and will attempt to try to sell you upgrades for more info, but you don't have to buy into it. I don't., because you will get so much info anyway, for free you won't need it.

This is what Geni.com looks like, plus you will get a biography - and other relatives -

ALL the "Free Tree" sites give you options for Trees to print -= from the Fans in various colors to circular ones (like our astro charts, etc. Its a very nice hobby if you have a family or someone to gift who is interested too.
 

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david starling

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Fellow billionaires Jimmy and Warren Buffett checked their DNA ancestry and came up empty. But, they were friends, and Warren called him "Jimmy", and Jimmy called him "Uncle".
 

Humanitarian

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Deb, I have a family tree on MyHeritage, but I faced a big wall because there aren't enough records about my great-grandparents, especially in my Chinese/Vietnamese side since my country was colonized by France back then
 

leomoon

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Deb, I have a family tree on MyHeritage, but I faced a big wall because there aren't enough records about my great-grandparents, especially in my Chinese/Vietnamese side since my country was colonized by France back then
Try putting free Trees on various sites I mentioned, especially Family Search - eventually you will see lots of relatives found by them (the volunteers in the Mormon church will find them for you and surprise you with them. If you did the DNA test then a big help would be to download the GED info too. Give them what they need for their research. You will not be disappointed and before long they will find .
The more trees the better, but Family Search is a great site imo.


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leomoon

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Do not put "all your eggs in one basket" meaning don't count on one tree - you must put several out there (start several of them) ....and they will grow limbs. Be patient, it may take a month, even two months for them to "catch up" and find but the more YOU find and help them (research yourself and add to the tree) then the more they have as "hints" to work with. Here are the ones I started with:

what I mean by trees and DNA work that is added via others) and names......so don't waste money, it's done for you~ after the initial investment of one time and a lot of trees (free trees and time)
1) Ancestry.com tree
2) Geni.com tree (the famous - but you need enough for them to find for you so be patient)
3) FamilySearch.org (owned by Church of Latter Day Saints) a REALLY comprehensive good site) with lots of added info.
4) Wiki-Tree (very comprehensive nice site with forums ) takes a while to learn how to use because it's different but does have Q & A forums....not owned by the others but has a lot of info.
(Find a Grave) is also a good place to search but they often have "hints" on these sites for them too......
In the beginning of my search (for my paternal relatives), I would have 2 or 3 of these trees opened at once, and as info would be added by them (after my initial adds) I would then add it onto the other trees -and they'd then grow exponentially or "catch up"

note: When I say "do research" look up "Find a Grave" for some relatives, you never know someone may have started one online for them. Don't give up. Get tips from helpful people like on Wiki Tree. (it's a forum unlike all the others) IF so, you might find a marriage date (Mormons love those dates and will research it thoroughly for you) or other significant dates like baptism dates etc) You'll get the hang of it, it just takes a lot of devotion & time as a hobby. I was determined to find the grandmother I never knew (even her name) and I was successful finding out how she died, etc. More successful than I thought I'd find (she died of the Spanish Flu all alone after childbirth (my father) :( ...very young leaving 2 sons behind two babies in 1918. I then eventually created a Find a Grave link for her to memorialize her not to be forgotten as before. Actually I think the gravestone with the comment "Sleeping sweetly" was already on the "Find a Grave" donated by someone named Jean and that is how I found her ......So it's worth researching names there.



Another "Tip" about Geni.com the Astrologer - Genealogist woman (Jude Cowell) told me, is that if you look up anyone halfway famous (as I did with Edgar Cayce here) and then add Geni.com next to their name, and at the same time have your own Geni.com account opened on your search engine, it will then tell you if there is a connection, or a path (either through blood or in laws. For me there was. But again, you have to have enough people on your trees started first for the thing to work properly. I checked Edgar's wife Gertrude, but there was no relationship to her for either of us., until a month or so later, and then they found it. (as shown on the forum page)
 
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leomoon

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Deb, I have a family tree on MyHeritage, but I faced a big wall because there aren't enough records about my great-grandparents, especially in my Chinese/Vietnamese side since my country was colonized by France back then
I know how frustrating it can be. I had hit a "wall" too for Cora's husband my paternal grandfather. Then one day it broke. I think it broke on Family Search. It took perhaps 3 or 4 months but now there are loads of people on there. Perhaps it broke because other people (who knows who?) get their DNA tests done and start trees - and viola - brick wall comes down when they post their trees and info. When they give you info and say to you "do you think this person is the same person as you are looking for?" it's best to type yes - unless it appears to be absolutely a no - because a yes will open the door to a lot of other blood relatives who likely are just that. You can always make corrections later or erase later if need be.
 

Humanitarian

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Deb, that wall is kind of hard, because my dad's surname is a rare variant of another more common surname, and that more common surname is also an uncommon-rare one, too, and I don't find anyone on FindAGrave with my dad's surname... (But, possibly I have an unknown Argentinian cousin, because I searched my dad's very rare surname there and found a person with the same surname as my dad's in Argentina!). Or maybe I need to go to Italy to find my familial records...
 
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leomoon

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Deb, that wall is kind of hard, because my dad's surname is a rare variant of another more common surname, and that more common surname is also an uncommon-rare one, too, and I don't find anyone on FindAGrave with my dad's surname... (But, possibly I have an unknown Argentinian cousin, because I searched my dad's very rare surname there and found a person with the same surname as my dad's in Argentina!). Or maybe I need to go to Italy to find my familial records...
The trees you create don't go anywhere unless you delete them. You can let them sit for years as I did with my original one. Eventually, it will grow of it's own accord as you add over time and the site adds or finds the variants which they will. Check out Wiki.com and talk to their geneologists who are professionals for hints too. You will likely find people from that part of the world who are familiar with such things.

Remember, anything worth it to you in life, never comes easy.
 

leomoon

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I'm hoping that my family tree will grow soon... or maybe ask a Horary for that
It will take much more effort than a horary chart, lol - but that would be interesting to see anyway. Once you get the DNA done and the GEDCOM number comes in you can add to the sites, that likely will also add people because it's the DNA that will count not so much the name variant.
 

Humanitarian

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I'll get my DNA done after I've made money myself, so you need to wait a few years! (My DNA is very mixed, and both sides of my family have admixtures, so my DNA is probably resembled those of a Mexican, but only the Native part is replaced by the Asian part)
 

leomoon

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I prefer Ancestry.com much more over My Heritage. I only used My Heritage for purchasing a DNA kit so that is why I put a tree on there. I have 450 people on the 2 trees, and they want to sell me an upgrade to put more people on it but I'm not buying. It's their Maximum apparently.
Check out Ancestry.com -

Here is a Southern Maryland great Uncle photo that Family Search sent me along with other photos and writings:
I thought it was funny - so I'll share it - 1800s farmer Civil War era

He looks a "Little Tipsy" :ROFLMAO:
 

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leomoon

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And in this one he appears - (I prefer the Union Soldiers and relatives north of the Mason-Dixon Line which Maryland was part of) - but as they say "you can't choose your relatives": This clan is the only clan I know of that were Confederates - fighting for the South
Then there is the way that family appears on Geni.com
 

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leomoon

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I'll get my DNA done after I've made money myself, so you need to wait a few years! (My DNA is very mixed, and both sides of my family have admixtures, so my DNA is probably resembled those of a Mexican, but only the Native part is replaced by the Asian part)
Best time is the holidays, particularly around times like Valentines Day in February or other Holidays in the U.S. when they do big sales. I think I paid $59. but I've seen it as cheap as $39 on Sale now on Holidays. ... Next time I see the big sale I will post it.
 

leomoon

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D. M. Hoover author (Astrologer)
My father told me when I was young and curious, and knew nothing of his family, that his mother died when he was a baby and a stepmother moved in and raised him. His background was Irish, German, and Pa-Dutch and that is all I knew about his family. I only knew my mother's side (French-Indian-Canadian) So when I finally ordered a DNA test, I was quite shocked to see that the French-Indian side was less then my father's DNA side living which showed more family even hailing from England. I did find his mother died from the Spanish Flu when he was only 6 months old. Her grandfather came from CastleIsland Kerry Ireland. I also feel I almost know them now, as I've studied since. I have found one distant cousin who was hung as a Witch in Salem (the eldest one hung which actually ended the Witch trials since the woman did nothing wrong and the townspeople knew it) Her name was Rebecca Nurse

Rebecca was in her 70s when hung for sorcery based all on rumor alone - by young teenagers.

Cora Agnes Hoover, my paternal grandmother died of the "Spanish Flu" (which was similiar to Covid) and took many lives) in 1918 - She died alone which made me very sad when I learned of this through the genealogy search: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21716612/cora-a-hoover

The "funny photo" of Mr. Bailey (above) is a common relative of both Rebecca Nurse and myself if you look at the Geni.com graph I'll post for you below you'll see the name "Bailey" his family in it: (8 times removed means 8 generations have passed) The other photo is one of me as a baby wondering "just what did I get myself into?" January 1947-48 :unsure:
 

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leomoon

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Mark Twain real name: Samuel Clemons author:

My 19th cousin

Also Known As:English (default): מארק טוויין, Марк Твен
Hebrew: מארק טוויין
Russian: Марк Твен
Occupation:writer, author, humorist, author humorist
Appearance: red hair
Religion:Freemasonry - He belonged to Polar Star Lodge No. 79 A.F.&A.M., based in St. Louis. He was initiated an Entered Apprentice on May 22, 1861, passed to the degree of Fellow Craft on June 12, and raised to the degree of Master Mason on July 10.
Political Views:the last twenty years of his life as an "outspoken anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist
 

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