Count Down To WWWIII

piercethevale

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I know I probably should stay out of certain threads at times, especially when I know my own personal emotions are involved and my wishing that this nation doesn't get involved in yet another military involvement after these last dozen years of the sickening mess the Bush regime got us into for manipulative reasons that can only be summarized as criminal.
Something [that inner voice[ urged me to study my own posting, last night, and I noticed something that got by me in post #5 where-in I posted the natal, progressed and transit chart for the USA next February 26th [and correct me if I'm wrong but it seems no one else noticed this either... which, btw...does make me wonder if I'm just wasting my time and precious little file space allotted me by posting charts as for the so few number of views they get.]

The USA natal chart [the Zero Hour, 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia chart] when progressed for next Feb 26th is thus progressed to February 26, 1777.

Same day of the month .. which is 227 days after the founding of July 4.on the date , you have given us Rahu, of 2/26...the numerological situation here also got by me .... these coincidences are quite intriguing, to say the least.
 
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poyi said:
From what I learned about histories, even now I am living in the Western society. I never forgot how western countries used opium and tobacco to weaken our people as strategies to invade China to take away our wealth and resources. Even these days, Western countries still owning more of our arts, antiques than China itself. If you look deeper, there were a lot of catastrophic things happened during those periods, but ultimately transformed to today Modern China. China was once for many thousands of years, own a large part of the world. Somehow, is kind of Karmic cycle? But surely, many countries do not want to see China ever getting back to that status.
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I hadn't realised that you are of Chinese ancestry and, or, origin... although the name you use did kind of subliminally tip me off.
When the great American 20th century clairvoyant, Edgar Cayce, gave a reading for the ARE members themselves, on June 22nd, 1944 [which was my late fathers' 24th birthday] He spoke of each of the nations, that were, of great influence and power that existed at that time and pointed out each ones most damning sin but China was not admonished, which poyi, you can read at this thread in my post #15.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2542
[In fact from China and Russia, he said at that time, would come the hope of the world...Russia for being the true champion and exemplary model of Liberty and China for bringing forth true "Christianity" {not necessarily a religion worshipping Jesus/Yeshu'a, per se, but what Christianity truly is...from my take on the matter... that is, not "Churchianity" but "Christianity". Which I figure will occur once the Vatican goes the way of the Dodo bird.} Quite an amazing prediction, many say...myself included...considering the political situations and social consciousness of those two countries in June 1944]
 
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hi polyi

you are quite correct about the opium wars and the subjugation of china so the british and americans(franklin delano roosevelt" family fortune came in part from the opium trading of his grandfather). could make money off the drug enslavement of the chinese people. but as you have alluded, this might have been pay back to the han chinese for the brutal way they controlled the other asian peoples for many centuries,or for that matter how the communist chinese today brutalize other asian populations.live by the sword,die by the sword.
but i was focusing on modern times when a refuted the idea that chinese and america have always been at odds.

pvc
interesting that the progressed USA chat shows feb 26 as significant.
but i have always questioned any of the USA charts based on 1776 or there abouts because of the civil war. in 1776 the usa was a slave nation. new yourk city was 50 percent slaves. after the civil war there was an entirely different makeup as slavery was aboished. it just seemt to me that the 1776 chart would be obsolete.

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piercethevale

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rahu said:
hi polyi

you are quite correct about the opium wars and the subjugation of china so the british and americans(franklin delano roosevelt" family fortune came in part from the opium trading of his grandfather). could make money off the drug enslavement of the chinese people. but as you have alluded, this might have been pay back to the han chinese for the brutal way they controlled the other asian peoples for many centuries,or for that matter how the communist chinese today brutalize other asian populations.live by the sword,die by the sword.
but i was focusing on modern times when a refuted the idea that chinese and america have always been at odds.

pvc
interesting that the progressed USA chat shows feb 26 as significant.
but i have always questioned any of the USA charts based on 1776 or there abouts because of the civil war. in 1776 the usa was a slave nation. new yourk city was 50 percent slaves. after the civil war there was an entirely different makeup as slavery was aboished. it just seemt to me that the 1776 chart would be obsolete.

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It's working for me... I would have dropped it like it was hot if it hadn't have shown any relevancy... but relevancy it has and the more I work with it and apply it the process likens itself as to 'peeling on onion'...some many layers that reveal more.

The thing about a nations chart is that it is an abstract entity that exists in the minds of it populace. Ask any Yank what day it is the moment the clock clicks 12:00:01 on July 4th and I believe that at least over 95% wll say that."It's the birthday of the United States".
The handbills that were posted, the notifications in the newspapers and periodicals that almost all residents of the 13 colonies got their information from gave announcement that as of July 4, 1776 We had declared our collective independence and solidarity. That is the United States in the abstract in the minds of most every Yank... and thinking [believing, visualizing] does make it so, if the thought is constant and unwavering... as you no doubt know, Rahu... given that your screen name is of Vedic origin.
 
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Leading up to WWII, the pope issued a plea for peace on 6/3/39 at with the node 8 scor1
On 9/7/13 the pope had a vigil of prayer for peace at 8scorpio58

On 7/11/39 the French foreign minister stated he did not expect war at 5scorp32.
On 11/21/13 the French foreign minister doubted war was eminent .

On 6/3/39 hitler ousted generals who opposed him at8scorp7
On 9/1/ and 9/3 obama ousted the no.1 and no2 miltary generals controlling nuclear missiles at9scorp54.
This story is quite amazing
A week before the firing of top nuke commanders navy vice admiral tim giardina and maj.gen. Michael carey, informed sources revealed that nuclear missiles were being transferred with no authorization and no paper trail. This had already happened once several months ago.
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-high-level-source-confirms-secret-us-nuclear-warhead-transfer-to-east-coast/
the vice admiral and maj. Gen. were fired because they would not cover up these actions.
Compare these articles with the mainstream media’s reporting of the actions a month later. Mainstream media claimed these were regular rotations in one case and a result of alcohol abuse in the other case. the bottom line is they were ousted because they did not support obama’s actions
http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-nuke-commanders-terminated-following-missing-nuclear-warheads-report.html
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/obama-ousts-top-officers-after-nuke-explodes-in-ocean-instead-of-charleston/

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poyi

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Not sure how the world will be heading to. However, I agree with what my boyfriend said about all things go in Cycles. There was upheaval to bring some nations to the top, there will also be time for them to fall. There is no one nation or one native can forever be at the top. America has always used War to gain power and maintain power and still trying.

I am in a very interesting situation since I was born in Hong Kong and always was educated with both the mix of Western and Eastern cultures and now living in Australia Mainstream Western but in fact highly Asian and part of Asia. So I tend to see both sides in different angles. As a Chinese and many Chinese do think similar way, we only care about wealth :)biggrin:) Not very interested on war and being the boss through military matters. Only when someone stepping over my front yard, courtyard then I can get very pissed off. But on normal days, we only care about earning money. This is known by most people, we love to earn, save and keep our cash.

My boyfriend is a British, he said in secret, many western countries are already owned by the Chinese due to debt...Australia is not bad as they don't like to borrow money so I hope Aussies stay this way. However, even the back bones of Australian economy is actually built by Chinese. It is always on the news, and business report, the Aussies always try to keep friendship with Asia. But then since WWI and WWII Australia has been friends with the UK and US, so is kind of like myself, Australia has the parents-son relationship with UK and brotherhood with US, but based on physical location, they must learn to be friends with Asia.

I think these day the War is more an economy war then the old time killing type which has been ongoing for many decades already.
 
CapAquaPis

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I been paying close attention to world politics, esp. my concerns on Iran may fit the profile of what some astrologers felt a major global warlord is on the way to appear in our lifetime. Nostradamus himself an astrologer said something on a "Persian prince" is the "third antichrist" after the other two: Napoleon of the 19th century French and Hitler of the 20th century German empires, have left their ugly marks on the world. Iran's current president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad (sp?) appears on the news as a literal "loose cannon" of words and actions, and Iran since the installment of the Islamic Republic 34 years ago remained hostile to the US and the west. Iran wants the world to "respect" them and their legitimacy of government, despite human rights and international law violations, and of course: development of nuclear weapons that Iran was working on for some time.

Recently, Iran which is considered a rogue state in international diplomacy by it's approach in development of nuclear weapons, was successful in a deal by UN agreements to keep, but limit Iran's nuclear weaponry for lighter economic sanctions. Iran has vehemently backed the Assad regime in Syria, and with Iran's influence, Russian president Putin's efforts to made Syria reduce its chemical weaponry after meeting with Obama when he said two months ago the US could perform bombing campaigns on Syria. Russia is a partner of Syria and with Iran, as the two countries (leaders Putin and Mahmoud) had a number of high-profile summits, and contacts with Bashar Assad. Iran is also an influence to China, as well North Korea and Venezuela, which have leaders being adversaries to the United States.

World wars began as blocs or alliances of nations band together while they felt threatened by another set of nations. That's what Iran has been doing to coordinate a group of nations to assist each other in case the US or another western ally attacks them, which I heavily doubt may happen. The US is currently focused on Afghanistan (alike Iraq, next door to Iran) and the time table to withdraw the last US troops is next year. The UN and other world leaders are working hardest to prevent a third world war as a capable threat, but to appease Iran should keep the risk down. A nuclear Iran under a government uncomfortable with the US, esp. in our involvement in affairs in the Middle east, doesn't guarantee world peace will substain if Iran promises not to be the one shooting off missiles or bombs against neighboring countries which are vital interests in US diplomatic matters.
 
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i bit of astrological trivia.....
New York Times july 11 16:8
dr nicholas murphy butler, president of columbia university reported that while in london attending a conference of the carnagie endowment for international peace, 5 astrologers claimed that the climax of hitler's career would come in early september 1939. whatever he must do to add to his fame must be done before that date.

these astrologers seemed to be correct as hilter invaded poland on sept1 1939

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on june 22 1939 the japanese demanded an american cruiser be removed from sowtow china with the node at 7scor0

the chinese recently,nov 23, declared a restricted zone with the node at 7scorp 30

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poyi

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Astrologers even current days are still influencing politic just like the ancient times but under the table more. A lot of the successful businessman, as well as governors and lawyers all requesting advices from astrologers. Is happening everywhere. Astrology is extremely powerful and hopefully in the right hands. But learning it yourself surly increase a lot of awareness. Moon node and property cycle is another interesting one. At the moment is heavy debt everywhere and in Scorpio.
 
Marinka

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With the node at that position, it is opposing Chiron (10th ruler of standing/status) and inconjunct to Uranus (3rd ruler of travel) in the USA Sag rising chart. I'm only mentioning this because to me (maybe not to others) it is obvious that it is playing off these planets in the USA charts. If I had the time, I would check all the charts of other significant countries and see if there are any points that are also being touched on there.

 
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ahhh marinka long time no see

The node is creating destiny, it plays off nothing, all plays off the dragon These similarities in historical events go back many cycles. The USA chart is obsolete.

http://www.reddit.com/r/CommonLaw/comments/77p2j/on_the_bankruptcy_of_the_us_federal_government
"My investigation convinced me that during the last quarter of a century the average production of gold has been falling off considerably. The gold mines of the world are practically exhausted. There is only about $11,000,000,000 in gold in the world, with the United States owning a little more than four billions. We have more than $100,000,000,000 in debts payable in gold of the present weight and fineness. . . As a practical proposition these contracts cannot be collected in gold for the obvious reason that the gold supply of the entire world is not sufficient to make payment

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise."
"It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congressional session, June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only."


 
Marinka

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rahu said:
ahhh marinka long time no see

The node is creating destiny, it plays off nothing, all plays off the dragon These similarities in historical events go back many cycles. The USA chart is obsolete.

http://www.reddit.com/r/CommonLaw/comments/77p2j/on_the_bankruptcy_of_the_us_federal_government
"My investigation convinced me that during the last quarter of a century the average production of gold has been falling off considerably. The gold mines of the world are practically exhausted. There is only about $11,000,000,000 in gold in the world, with the United States owning a little more than four billions. We have more than $100,000,000,000 in debts payable in gold of the present weight and fineness. . . As a practical proposition these contracts cannot be collected in gold for the obvious reason that the gold supply of the entire world is not sufficient to make payment

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise."
"It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congressional session, June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only."
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Almost a year ago on my web page I identified that China and Japan would have an escalation in their differences regarding their borders and that this would occur in November of 2013. This was not using the nodes, although I am seeing that they are significant (elaborated on further below). I was actually looking at China's chart and seeing angles that I identify with aggression and then looking at Japan's chart, I could see that Japan would be the likely target. But, this is not to say that this is the only "border skirmish" that China might have. The difference between China and Japan is not likely to be resolved easily as Japan has more issues coming up early next year (just haven't checked to see if China is involved although, I would think so.

As to the node involvement-- I think it may have something to do with China and it's earlier history with Japan and trying to have a "karmic reckoning", can't be sure yet as I haven't studied this far enough through history. Again, this is just my opinion at this point and it is changeable depending on what my research shows later ....

For the past few months I've stepped back a bit from the mundane & economic predictions as some of my research on medical issues have had significant breakthroughs. Too many pots going!

 
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rahu said:
well i don't know about that. during the war between japan and china right before WWII, the united states was actively helping the chinese, most notably the Flying Tiger Squadrons that fought the air war with japan for china, as china had no airforce.and to this day the united states is a staunch backer of taiwan.

and i beleive that sun yat sen was greatly aide by the united states in the 1910's-20's

if you say communist china , then yes, the u.s. has always been a arms length until the 1990's...

rahu
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In the true history of our earth, we are all babes in the woods who strive to walk (tramp?) like giants. The history of China is older than our US schools' history books, yet our government has used philosophical differences to support/divide its reluctance to pay further respect. We tried grand-helper liaisons; that didn't pay off. So now we have cold shoulders, with commerce in control.

It's time to get back to being kindred spirits. Repairing the web of US, the harmony and safe harbor that our county, or at least we the people, support. We are all shedding our ridiculous prejudices, albeit slowly. It's time to pay respect to the history of all of us.

I really don't want to think that it would take another war to bring us together in some global survival/brotherly mode. Eye'd even prefer to interpret the sudden intervention of a higher power, a greater energy for a growing brotherhood.

I certainly agree that mundane astrology can predict key/critical times. I simply hope it's all about energy thrusts, and using that energy to lift all of us into something new.

p.s. Rahu, at first I wondered, almost asked, and now appreciate you're posting this thread under General Chat. Everyone should have an opinion, based on your data or not.
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Now there's an idea - we emote the web-smelly of hell (decay/destruction) in order to avoid it.
 
tikana

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I hate to break the news BUT the chances of World War III are quite high. Bring 1 idiot to power, find bunch of people who follow him/her like sheep, then have western countries ignore the problem or swipe it under the rug, all hell breaks loose. Ohh yeah and keep 1 moron in power in one of the powerful countries in the world and allow him/her to play kiss azz game with the idiot from another country with a flock of sheep --- you got a problem! we, humans, DON'T learn. And every war has religion is its subtone for a reason. Then you have an asymmetric information about the potential costs and benefits of war and the govts think people are disposable. Then you have revenge a reason, ethnic cleansing (why non-natives are living better than the natives), commitment problems (after an agreement one or the other side fails to comply with an agreement), usually first strike country has an upper hand (catch a country off-guard).. drain all the supplies and enslave the other country! MONEY, POWER, Supply, Religion are the key reasons why wars start.
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rahu

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on sept 5 1939 the stock market soared on the war boom.WWII began on Sept 1

these same wall street banks loaned the money to hitler of build his war machine. european bankers refused.

currently the u.s. is in a war economy and has been for several years. this was the first time since the end of WWII.in fact if the US pedall the wars it has started ,the economy would collase

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pope francis has just won the” man of the year “ for saying what everyone wanted to hear. ”bringing the gospel” back into the church” ah yea hmmm …at the same time he has refused to cooperated with authorities on past sexual abuses and currently “shielded” priest.
I mean , obama had all the right words and those lead him to a nobel peace prize while he was waging war.
The importance of the Vatican’s presence in world matters underscores the proximity of world war . world trade is regulated by marine time codes based on Vatican accords. with the roman model still being held by the Vatican, world trade is essentially still ruled by the codes of ceasar.
But trivia aside , this shows how close chaos is.
It was the same in 1939
The pope lead a prayer for peace on april 2 at 8scorp23 ,134 days before he start of war.
The h invited representatives from france, ,Italy ,England , germany and Poland to the vatican for a world counsel on peace on may 8th with node at 8scor 20 99 days before war.
The pope renews peace efforts every month from June to September
Until aug 20 1939, the pope saw hope for peace. Wit node at 1scorp 35 12 days before the wars
The war started sept. 1
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