Chiron in 8th house -scared of physical intimacy?
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Thank you 🙏 positive vibes right back at you 😍
What difficulties do you personally find you have. If your not comfortable you can pm me. It would be good to share this if anything but to just understand and see that we are not alone in this journey
I’ve had my chart on here before but took it off for various reasons. Fear of exposure yes. I resonate. I thought 8th house wasn’t sex but body parts which just got me confused. But it is intimacy right?
Kite
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The 8th house is one of the most misunderstood houses in astrology. Ask 10 astrologers to define the 8th house and you'll get 11 answers.
I think fear of exposure relates to Saturn --probably with a hard Mars aspect. But unless I can see your chart, I can only speculate. If you want to PM me your data, I can take a look at what's going on.
Kite
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And Traditional astrologers would give sex to the 5th house where procreation takes place...just an example of the different answers you get regarding that wild and crazy house. I have Jupiter there and I keep waiting for an inheritance but my south node conjunct my part of fortune in 4 denies me. Oh well.
And traditional astrologers don't use Chiron. Which is the subject of this thread.
Kite
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Yes but what do you do with hybrids like me? I have Chiron on my ascendant so it's hard for me to ignore.
Tax as well! I feel the whole country have these issues lol but on a serious note I get all this. Taboos and all the other stuff I don’t have any issues with if I’m being honest. Just what I’ve already mentioned. The only person that can help me is ME and work on my issues. I won’t forget what you said and how you put it across to me O. In 5 years it can be better than it is now. Just like 5 years ago I wasn’t as confident as I am now in that area. Just takes times.
Thank you Kite. Thanks for the offer of looking at my chart. That’s kind of you 😊
Kite
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Hi Hkk - please forgive some traditional delineation but it does relate to Chiron.
There a couple of significant things that may be causing your intimacy issues. First is that Venus - the ruler of your Ascendant is perigrine. This means it is out of sorts - feels like a wanderer - without a home. Since Chiron is in Taurus, Venus also rules that sign so I imagine Chiron feels that sense of physical/bodily exposure to the elements. The position in 8 heightens the fear of death/transformation and yes - sex in that way that your consciousness is fused with another in a kind of little death as others have put it.
The other issue as I suggested earlier deals with your Saturn and Mars. Both of the planets are square by sign (Libra and Cap) however they are both in exaltation which helps defuse the conflict somewhat between protecting yourself (Saturn) and assertive action from others (Mars which rules your 7th house of partner/relationship). Both planets are dignified essentially and accidentally by being in angular houses. Here is the problem - Mars in Capricorn is welcomed in Saturn's house as he rules Capricorn. Saturn does not welcome Mars into his Libra house because Libra is the opposite sign of Mars' domicile Aries. So in essence, your first house Saturn is repulsed by the assertive actions of Mars - be it from family since Mars is in the 4th house, by intimate partners in the 7th house or something to do with money or values that put you off (2nd house Scorpio).
So how do you deal with this? Awareness and de-sensitivity. A mantra I used when I was young when dealing with a feeling of a hostile world - was saying to myself - Nothing can harm me unless I permit it. Truly believing this really helped me get comfortable in my own skin. This might help you too.
Happy New Year - I hope this has been helpful.
Hey Kite,
Yes thank you for your help. It helps to understand the chart a little deeper.
Great way to explain my love life lol ‘a wanderer without a home’’. I’m glad I’m more of an optimistic than a pessimistic so I still have hope in my 💓 heart.
With Chiron in 8th yes I feel the exposure. More in myself than out there.
Happy new year 🥳 x
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My Chiron 8th house placement created a very complicated issue during my adolescence.
I have the Moon@ 3Cap54.
I have Mars@7Cap19.
And Chiron@7Cap30. I am a Scorpio with Taurus rising.
Sag is on my 8th house cusp but that triple conjunction in Cap is in the 8th.
So Chiron is very tightly conjunct my Mars in the 8th, exalted in Cap.
When I was about 5 yrs old, my parents divorced. And my uncle began babysitting my brothers and I after school because my Mom had to get a job.
My uncle began grooming me, and eventually began molesting me and having me do sexual acts with him.
It went on for 3 years. 
I never told anyone because there was so much family stress because of the divorce---I didn't want to add to the burden.
Also, my uncle convinced me it was my fault. SHAME and GUILT come along with being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. we are taught it was our fault and we would be blamed if anyone found out.
Thankfully my Mom remarried and found a wonderful husband and a loving StepDad for us. They moved us to a neighbouring town and that saved me.
When I went through puberty around age 13, I became hyper sexualised for my age. I was inappropriately sexual, I would have to say promiscuous. Although I didnt lose my virginity, until my senior year in high school to my boyfriend, I did
heavily flirt and go to 1st and w2nd and 3rd base, way too easily.
And later on, when I went to therapy for the child abuse memories, I was told that hyper sexualised childhoods and promiscuity is part of the damage done by the sexual abuse.
So my Chiron in the 8th did not make me scared of sexual intimacy---it made me addicted to it in inappropriate and compulsive ways...
Thank Goodness I got the help I needed when I was in college and was eventually able to have normal romantic relationships. Been married to my Aries husband, with Mars in Scorpio, for 37 years now.
I have the Moon@ 3Cap54.
I have Mars@7Cap19.
And Chiron@7Cap30. I am a Scorpio with Taurus rising.
Sag is on my 8th house cusp but that triple conjunction in Cap is in the 8th.
So Chiron is very tightly conjunct my Mars in the 8th, exalted in Cap.
When I was about 5 yrs old, my parents divorced. And my uncle began babysitting my brothers and I after school because my Mom had to get a job.
My uncle began grooming me, and eventually began molesting me and having me do sexual acts with him.
It went on for 3 years. I never told anyone because there was so much family stress because of the divorce---I didn't want to add to the burden.
Also, my uncle convinced me it was my fault. SHAME and GUILT come along with being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. we are taught it was our fault and we would be blamed if anyone found out.
Thankfully my Mom remarried and found a wonderful husband and a loving StepDad for us. They moved us to a neighbouring town and that saved me.
When I went through puberty around age 13, I became hyper sexualised for my age. I was inappropriately sexual, I would have to say promiscuous. Although I didnt lose my virginity, until my senior year in high school to my boyfriend, I did
heavily flirt and go to 1st and w2nd and 3rd base, way too easily.
And later on, when I went to therapy for the child abuse memories, I was told that hyper sexualised childhoods and promiscuity is part of the damage done by the sexual abuse.
So my Chiron in the 8th did not make me scared of sexual intimacy---it made me addicted to it in inappropriate and compulsive ways...
Thank Goodness I got the help I needed when I was in college and was eventually able to have normal romantic relationships. Been married to my Aries husband, with Mars in Scorpio, for 37 years now.
My Chiron 8th house placement created a very complicated issue during my adolescence.
I have the Moon@ 3Cap54.
I have Mars@7Cap19.
And Chiron@7Cap30. I am a Scorpio with Taurus rising.
Sag is on my 8th house cusp but that triple conjunction in Cap is in the 8th.
So Chiron is very tightly conjunct my Mars in the 8th, exalted in Cap.
When I was about 5 yrs old, my parents divorced. And my uncle began babysitting my brothers and I after school because my Mom had to get a job.
My uncle began grooming me, and eventually began molesting me and having me do sexual acts with him.
I never told anyone because there was so much family stress because of the divorce---I didn't want to add to the burden.
Also, my uncle convinced me it was my fault. SHAME and GUILT come along with being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. we are taught it was our fault and we would be blamed if anyone found out.
Thankfully my Mom remarried and found a wonderful husband and a loving StepDad for us. They moved us to a neighbouring town and that saved me.
When I went through puberty around age 13, I became hyper sexualised for my age. I was inappropriately sexual, I would have to say promiscuous. Although I didnt lose my virginity, until my senior year in high school to my boyfriend, I did
heavily flirt and go to 1st and w2nd and 3rd base, way too easily.
And later on, when I went to therapy for the child abuse memories, I was told that hyper sexualised childhoods and promiscuity is part of the damage done by the sexual abuse.
So my Chiron in the 8th did not make me scared of sexual intimacy---it made me addicted to it in inappropriate and compulsive ways...
Thank Goodness I got the help I needed when I was in college and was eventually able to have normal romantic relationships. Been married to my Aries husband, with Mars in Scorpio, for 37 years now.
Thanks for sharing. It’s not easy to share something like that and I’m glad you come thru it as a stronger person. God bless you!
Do you suffer with anything to do with 8th house Chiron now?
Well, I did have a bad impact from the Sat/Pluto transit through my 8th, crossing over the Moon/Mars/Chiron.
We got audited by the IRS for write-offs on taxes from an earlier year. We hired tax attorney, did a lot of preparation, spent a lot of money, and lost our case.
We took a big financial hit. I am A Scorpio with a Cap Moon. So Saturn/Pluto visiting my 8th was quite powerful. The audit came out of the blue and knocked the wind out of us. We are still paying it off.
Well, I did have a bad impact from the Sat/Pluto transit through my 8th, crossing over the Moon/Mars/Chiron.
We got audited by the IRS for write-offs on taxes from an earlier year. We hired tax attorney, did a lot of preparation, spent a lot of money, and lost our case.
I am A Scorpio with a Cap Moon. So Saturn/Pluto visiting my 8th was quite powerful. The audit came out of the blue and knocked the wind out of us. We are still paying it off.
Omg 😮!!!! Do these 8th house themes happen a lot to you?
Ummm....maybe....
It is a difficult triple conjunction. My moon is in it's fall in Cap, and not happy in the 8th. Then it is in an applying conjunction to an exalted Mars, which is tightly conjoined with Chiron in Cap. So it is not an easy placement.
When I was in college I had a very bad situation with a bad Uranus transit to that conjunction. I had a bad reaction to an IUD, creating an infection and then an abscess, on my Fallopian tubes, requiring surgery. Lost one of my tubes.
So this conjunction has created some turmoil. But also many good things came from my 8th.