Moderate Tim ( Mr Othey)
................[snip]...............You have a least aspected (strong energy) Uranus (friends, also astrology (using modern rulerships) ) conjunct (energy is combined with) your IC (inner world), so you do not "connect in" with your astrology energy. So it tends to "flow" from your own inner connection to yourself. Your challenge is to accept you have this astrological energy...even though you don't directly "feel" it.
I resemble that remark !! [hands on hips]...... how many pages do i have to tell you about how this fits!!!
In retrospect , i spent 30 years trying to convince self that it was "illogical feelings" based on "issues" i had ( some sort of self-delusion that led to self-fulfilling prophecy).
Regardless of how the matter progressed i convince(d) myself that those "direct knowings" were to be discounted on the basis of "what i had been taught to think".
Indeed , i have indulged like a pig (self-denial) over this facility ...... and Pluto / Neptune / Uranus transits and a **Rx Pmerc** (19yo - 42yo) exacerbated this "self-denial". ( check the current Pluto transit)
The best example is "dumping" ..... i would see/hear folk talking astrology and note their comments ..... the more "serious" they were , the more scathing i was. It wasn't a negative portrayal of astrology , nor was it a "nasty" reading..... it was more like the "oh yeah , **** easy !! .... blah blah blah blah" ( the dump) then a silence full of a smart-**** smile ... wait for the jaws to drop and ...answer 1 or 2 questions and .........[exit , stage right] .... back to the world of ****hedonistic pleasures (which show up in the chart) - that a "football playing , beer drinking , drug smoking , sex-crazed" Hedonist knew more about astrology than those that respectfully studied and practised - brought the exact reaction i wanted .... talk about an "ego trip" ..... [thinks of the scene in "good will hunting" , in the bar , when he dabates the "pretentious pipe smoking PhD student"]
i do not know "where" my interpretation gets formed , i can tell you the list of things that i "attend" to consciously , but not the method of "coalescence" ... go figure huh??
at this level , the chart and the calculations become a talisman , a reflected "object" used to "elevate the mind" (for want of a better term) , in the same way that the image of "Buddha" is a reflection of the self during chanting.
**The Rx Pmerc**
- at 19yo(RefDate=2Mar60) prog's merc went Rx @ 25pis51 ....this point is my South Node ..... and square to Jupiter ....... Cant wait to see what happens to my Art/Astro/Music when Pmerc hits the Node ...again !!
- ...only another 13 years to wait
****Hedonistic pleasures**** -
This belongs here ....... took a long time to realise that "drug euphoria" didn't necessarily require drugs ...... Panadeine Forte can addict me in 3 days ,so-o , whilst i indulge myself , i avoid those substances which can create "physical dependency". It's a "self regulated" thing (and i have very clear and strict boundaries - alwayd did) based on my "circumstances/ambitions" ....and ....my FEARS for myself. I put this here because it follows the theme of a lack of self-understanding , or , of the ability to integrate /accept ..... The Inner Self , aka
in this context - Direct Knowledge (gnosis).
PS.this (your comment) sounded like it came straight from my mother (the astrology teacher) ..... not my mother ( the mother) ..... Father deceased @ 9yo .... so the Mother (Sun Conjuncts my NNode ++++) shows as both. It ain't a pretty story , but it has virtue and true courage , both hers and mine.
suprisingly neptune is often associated with astrologers.uranus is the traditional ruler of astrology and in your chart it is places near the nadir.the 4th house rules your personality structure .with uranus there, you have inherent astrological abilities.you personality structure is insynch with astrological principles.the sun opposed to uranus at midheaven ,increase you ability to use astrological skills in the social context.
Empathy seems to come from the "direct knowledge" place too ... i'm hopeless with picking peoples motivations , but i can tell how they're are feeling too too easily ( and sometimes it is "phsycally sickening") ... , be it a group or an individual , whether they, or I, like it or not .
I have to switch it off ........ you saw the effect of this on "Wayne Penner" and "PLF" ..... i can tell you both of these posters have hidden aganda's ....whether they
know that is "unknown"
your jupiter sextile to chiron gives you a "therapist's" insights.chiron is also associated with astrology in the greek myths.hence this sextile position with jupiter gives you a incisive understanding of the application of astrological principles.
This also plays with the Rx Pmerc Station point ..... the degree tells me i have to somehow resolve this ( a lesson) through the Nodes / Jupiter ..... Pmars hitting Chiron soon ?? Chiron at 27aqu++ has just had a Rx Venus and a Saturn opposition transit .... oh joy !!! (seriously ....some valuable lessons , not easy , but valuable in the context of the Progressed New moon ( Eclipse) in 2005.) The Pmoon is "just now" coming out from the glare of the sun ...and is also sitting on the ASC and opposite the current RxMerc Transit.
Did i get all that out ???
to balance your precise analytical skills,LOL,your moon/uranus midpoint is square to neptune.this gives a interesting combination of innovative,practical ideas,with idealistic and diffuse reasoning.
ROFLMAO ...liked this .....:"with idealistic and diffuse reasoning" .... meaning =he is ~!@#$%^& wacky .... "out there" !!!!
I hear it all the time.
this aspect can show up as starting projects but not finishing them,as they were too ambitous in the first place.
yes ...Yes ..... YES !!!!
this aspect can sometimes leave you second guessing your decisions,continually changing and restructuring them.with neptune on the descendant
yes , more on this in the next response(s) ..... the fixed signs combined with the Saturn/Venus/Mars conj loosely hooking into this (sextile thru quintile) can exacerbate this at times , i feel it as a misplaced loyalty , a mis-use of "single-minded determination" , at the same time there is a balance there ..... i reach a point where it dawns on me that the "situation" no longer has "heart"(merit) for me. There's good and bad here .... the difference between loyalty and misplaced or misdirected
,you can project a naive ,simple minded persona that surprises other when your articulate reasoning appears.
People who know me will "scurry away" when i lift the lid on this , as you put it , surprise !!!!!
My Mum used to call it "the sledgehammer" ..... often it is a simple , quiet comment that exposes "peoples true motivations , peccadillo's , foibles, etc etc." It is a weapon , i use it as such !!! ... sparingly and only when necessary.(other people are clever too)
Thanx Rahu ...... any questions ...i'm good to go !!!
anything !!!! ( no limits) ...practice your art ...this applies to all of you out there ................
Shining Ray .............
I have a question, or maybe a couple OR MORE .
... Really ???? LOL !!
1. How do you handle having a Taurus Asc
.. practically , beautifully , and with the trine/sextile between ASC and Pluto / Merc Opposition ..... it is undoubtedly the best most efficacious way of doing it .....wanna argue
and Sun in Aquarius opposed to Uranus, two different energies.
I think along the lines of Mutual Reception "i'll keep you happy if you make me happy"
Your big three asc/Sun and Moon are in fixed signs.
you need glasses
....neptune in Scorp on the Desc ...... fixed fixed , fixed , and ~!@#$%^& WELL FIXED
2. Chart ruler Venus is in a compromising position with Mars and Saturn in Capricorn , how does that work.
this needs to be considered alongside the previous Question of "fixedness" .... how can i say this ..... If you had to choose , based on this chart , to have me as opposition or as a team-mate , what would it be ???
also , rythym , loyalty , and energy .......
all in the 9th ?? ..... Lot's of Older girlfriends when i was young ...all of them actually , was always told .... you'll meet through "work" ..possibly from O/seas with me going there to be with them.
what happened ?? ..... turns out that the travel is in "social status" and "higher learning" ..... looking back , i was only a mentally "on the same level" once in my life ...so far
...and she was 13yrs older than I at the time ( i am presuming that doesn't change over the years
3. And are you going to answer these questions, with Mercury opposed Pluto usually people with this aspect like to do the probing. How does it feel do be interrogated.
NO !!!! F*** OFF !!! ..... ROFLMFAO
yes ..... and you will be convinced of the incontrovertible nature of everything that comes out of my mouth ..... ( a mouthful usually
Now , .... about you ???? [laffin hard here]
I have looked at you nodes on my solar fire, in case you needed some direction. I like looking at peoples nodes, I looked at Hitlers today also.
They must smell by now !!!
Here is you nodal reading:
A sense of purpose can help us overcome the most onerous difficulties in our lives, by taking the focus away from our failings and problems, and shining the light on our strengths and talents. By concentrating on our purpose we can distract ourselves from our troubles, and maintain the forward momentum of our lives. A sense of purpose can also lead to feelings of happiness and joy. Ancient astrologers believed that a person could either identify with their human body and human life, or could focus on a spiritual life. A rewarding spiritual life can help ease human pain and suffering, and inject joy into every day life. A sense of purpose can assist the process of transferring our identification from our human selves to the spiritual sides of our nature, and one of the greatest gifts of astrology is to help us determine our purpose.
when i identify more
with my body - i am "distracted" , when i focus on the spritual , mental - i find "true" (fulfilling) purpose. - this is good !!
The North Node and South Node form an axis in astrology, which is said to represent one's destiny or spiritual quest in life. This axis is also linked with our purpose. The North Node points to a key lesson in our lives. It represents new experiences towards which we must aim during this life. We have already learnt the skills of its opposite point, the South Node, in the past. Now we must grow and stretch ourselves through the North Node.
Your North Node is in the fifth house and your South Node is in the eleventh house of your birth chart indicating a quest to create and own your destiny. You need to give up your personal dreams and develop self-discipline to
build a creative life. Your nodal axis has the North Node in Virgo and the South Node in the sign of Pisces denoting that you're destined to become dedicated to the service of others. You'll need to overcome the tendency to daydream and feel overwhelmed and to put your compassion and wisdom to practical use for humanity.
The North Node and the planet Venus are combining in your chart suggesting that your destiny is linked with the need to develop harmonious and balanced relationships. Relationships play an important role in your
accomplishments. You are joyous when you're part of a team, working in collaboration with other people to achieve your objectives.
This is the "emerging" theme of the progressed New Moon ( Eclipse) mentioned earlier ....so true ..... so scary ..... so .... enlightening !!!!
The North Node and the planet Mars are combining to suggest that you're being challenged to become assertive and focused on your personal goals. Independence and self-confidence are keys to your growth in this life, and you may find yourself thrust into leadership roles.
This is true , and has happened a few times in different areas of life .... having said that ...... Yes , i know that i have been waiting , and i know what i have been waiting for ( as opposed to most) ...... it is now time to pick up the cudgels.(it is one of the reasons i am here in the forum)
The Ascendant, or Rising Sign as it's sometimes called, is a key to discovering our purpose. Ancient astrologers believed that the Ascendant depicted our primary motivation as individuals. Some believed that it was one of the
links to discovering what makes a person happy. When we're accomplishing our primary motivation then we're happy. The more modern Esoteric astrologers believe that this sensitive chart point reveals our soul's purpose.
When we're carrying out our soul's purpose then we're joyful. They believe that acceptance of our purpose, or fate, can help us achieve success and satisfaction, and that meditation on the qualities of the Ascendant can help us focus on our life's purpose.
The sign of Taurus is considered "feminine" by Ancient astrologers suggesting that you're more likely to wait until you feel comfortable before pursuing your purpose. You're also likely to depend on other people to take the initiative. Taurus is also a Fixed sign denoting fixity of purpose, resolution, self-reliance and independence. Structure, stability and reliability are the cornerstones of your life. Your primary motivation is for security, in
particular material security, and you aim to achieve this security through practical feats. It's likely to be a slow process towards successfully achieving your purpose, because you'll not be hurried. In fact you need to be wary of
becoming too fixed in your comfort zone. The positive side of this tendency is that when you do commit to a course of action, then you can be relied on to come up with the goods. Your decisions are based on careful consideration,
and you'll tenaciously follow through with actions. There's a strong emphasis on the physical side of life with this Ascendant. For instance your purpose may be linked with a physical activity. It's also possible that you're physically attractive to other people. This, combined with your reserved charm, enables you to achieve your objectives.
all true .... especially the part about being "a spunk"!!! Just look at that face , that body , that birthdate ... i mean ... they chase me down the streets , through shopping centres !! (is that enough??)
Your organisational ability may play a key role in your life's purpose. Life experience also features prominently in your life, providing you with the wisdom needed to accomplish success. In Esoteric astrology the sign of Taurus is linked to what is called the third eye, spiritual insight and wisdom. You need to ensure that your desire for material security doesn't stand in the way of you fully expressing your spiritual wisdom and intuition. Your purpose is connected to creating beauty and manifesting spiritual plans, and using your spiritual insights in a practical manner. You might find the Biblical saying a useful affirmation: "You will know them by their works".
I am , and always have been perpetually poor , i love comfort , but i hate wealth for it's own sake. Example , I have always handed all my "wages" to the woman of the house (when there was one) , including the "pay slip" , and in the back of my mind i have always done this as a gesture of loyalty , trust , etc., ... for spiritual reasons.
This , - You might find the Biblical saying a useful affirmation: "You will know them by their works" - and many others like it ... i am full of pithy bits and pieces which reflect this thought/feeling.
Thanx to all of you ..... you can bring on the difficult/awkward/humiliating ones any time you are ready .... really !!!
Leave em smiling